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erronis

(21,787 posts)
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 12:30 PM Sep 18

The 2026 election is already under attack -- Judd Legum and Rebecca Crosby - Popular Information

https://popular.info/p/the-2026-election-is-already-under

On Tuesday, the Department of Justice (DOJ) filed lawsuits against the states of Oregon and Maine. The lawsuits seek to compel both states to turn over the private data of every registered voter, including driver's license numbers and partial social security numbers. The new litigation is part of a larger effort to undermine the legitimacy of the 2026 election.

Both lawsuits begin by quoting extensively from an executive order, signed by President Trump on March 25, which claims, without evidence, that state and federal governments have failed to protect "voters from having their ballots voided or diluted by fraudulent votes." In a press release, Assistant Attorney General Harmeet K. Dhillon said the lawsuits were filed because "American citizens have a right to feel confident in the integrity of our electoral process, and the refusal of certain states to protect their citizens against vote dilution will result in legal consequences."

The DOJ is seeking to compile sensitive information about registered voters in Oregon, Maine, and most other states. The Secretary of State of Oregon, Tobias Read (D), is concerned that the DOJ will use the data to bolster the "false narrative" of fraudulent voting, "making it easier for the administration to suppress voting and other political activity it doesn’t like." David Becker, the founder and executive director of the Center for Election Innovation & Research, said there is "no legitimate purpose for trying to obtain this data" other than to misuse it and substantiate conspiracy theories.

The lawsuit itself provides an example of how the DOJ plans to manipulate data to suggest malfeasance. For example, the lawsuit says Oregon's "registration rate in 2024 of 95.3 percent of the citizen voting age population" is "unusually high," suggesting that the state may not be properly removing ineligible voters. But it is actually a function of Oregon's policies that make voting and registration easy, including automatic registration for any eligible person who interacts with the Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV) and universal vote-by-mail.

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The 2026 election is already under attack -- Judd Legum and Rebecca Crosby - Popular Information (Original Post) erronis Sep 18 OP
DOJ Sues Maine and Oregon JustAnotherGen Sep 18 #1
I think at that point any data that doesn't agree with the SCOTUS-6's opinion would be discarded. erronis Sep 18 #2
All in on soft secession JustAnotherGen Sep 18 #3
Someone asked me yesterday about "soft secession". My first reaction is it can't happen, erronis Sep 18 #4
This was the very first step JustAnotherGen Sep 18 #5

JustAnotherGen

(37,324 posts)
1. DOJ Sues Maine and Oregon
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 12:45 PM
Sep 18
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/09/18/doj-sued-maine-oregon-states-voter-rolls/86200966007/

Let's say this gets up to SCOTUS and they take the right to run elections out of the hands of the states . . . what's to say the states give error riddled information?

erronis

(21,787 posts)
2. I think at that point any data that doesn't agree with the SCOTUS-6's opinion would be discarded.
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 02:06 PM
Sep 18

Federalism and states rights will only exist for certain "god-given" places - mainly mid-west and south.

JustAnotherGen

(37,324 posts)
3. All in on soft secession
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 02:39 PM
Sep 18

Printz v United States and Murphy v NCAA.

I was speaking with someone yesterday in NJ State AG's office (friends but they work in there) and those two cases mean 'something'.

IE- Fed Orders but can't the fed just pull all of that info themselves? I don't believe they compel our State Govs to do work that is not timely, reasonable, and doesn't interfere with their regular work product.

erronis

(21,787 posts)
4. Someone asked me yesterday about "soft secession". My first reaction is it can't happen,
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 03:06 PM
Sep 18

but then I thought more and agreed that it could. But it would be a wrenching no-winner civil war with the current regime controlling a lot of the weapons.

Some on the maga side think a civil war would be a fun exercise, similar to what some Americans on both sides of the "War Between the States" thought - picnic blankets laid out to watch the soldiers parading and firing at one another. And then the streams ran red with blood from both sides and millions of innocents.

As was recently pointed out, virtually everybody will lose access to electricity, running water/sewage, hospitals will be closed, normal social services will stop. Whether red state or blue state, all skin colors and ethnicities. Cars won't have fuel. Grocery stores won't exist.

Sure the ultra-rich will survive better but the stench will be unpleasant for years (oh, no grave diggers.)

JustAnotherGen

(37,324 posts)
5. This was the very first step
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 03:34 PM
Sep 18
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220654292

NJ? We have the knowledge base, talent, means of production where we could produce critical life saving vaccines and medications by the state. Look at the number of Pharma HQ's around me. . .

The next step is local/regional production with as little as possible pulled from red states.

The North East has the advantage of a border with Canada - and shore line access.
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