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Celerity

(52,030 posts)
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 04:47 PM Yesterday

Canceling Kimmel. Canceling Speech. Canceling Comedy.



https://prospect.org/blogs-and-newsletters/tap/2025-09-18-canceling-kimmel-speech-comedy-trump/



The almost instantaneous decision of Disney’s ABC to indefinitely suspend—its euphemism for “cancel”—Jimmy Kimmel’s late-night show after the head of Donald Trump’s FCC expressed displeasure with Kimmel may signal that the country is on a path to repression that exceeds McCarthyism or even the political repression of 1918–1920. In those two cases, the government’s criminalization of speech and belief was largely directed at radicals—members of the Communist Party and other left organizations. To be sure, virtually none of those radicals had engaged in any form of subversion; some were pillars of mainstream culture. (Blacklisted screenwriter Dalton Trumbo, after all, wrote—uncredited, of course—the screenplay for the classic romantic comedy Roman Holiday, just as the later-to-be-blacklisted Sidney Buchman had written the screenplay for Mr. Smith Goes to Washington.) But their political convictions were surely of the left.

Like Stephen Colbert, however, Jimmy Kimmel is nobody’s radical. They are mainstream liberals with mass followings. Trump’s second term, however, is defined by his all-out war on any of his critics, heedless of their actual politics, not to mention of the First Amendment. Republicans, of course, have a long history of deliberately conflating liberals with radicals with traitors—McCarthy did that routinely, as did Nixon, whose vice president, Spiro Agnew, coined the phrase “radical-liberal” to describe garden-variety Democrats. But neither McCarthy nor Nixon believed they could unilaterally and publicly wield the government’s power to compel every institution to bend to their will, preferably inflicting palpable suffering on their targets. Nixon’s Watergate endeavors, and his enlistment of the FBI and other agencies in his battle against the Democrats, were entirely under cover. Trump, by contrast, doesn’t have to secretly subvert the nation’s institutions; he publicly threatens them and wields state power against them, secure in the belief that his political base—including Republican members of Congress and all too many judges—will willingly, or feel compelled to, cheer him on.

In other words, this is McCarthyism or Nixonism or 1919-ism unleashed in the context of a largely nonviolent civil war. Decades of demonization of liberals by Rush Limbaugh, Newt Gingrich, Fox News, and right-wing social media have helped produce a MAGA movement and Trump presidency unconstrained by any sense of national cohesion, or constitutional adherence, or toleration of others’ speech, or even acceptance of facts that run counter to Trump’s, or Kennedy’s, or Bondi’s, beliefs. Radicalism, shmadicalism; their ultimate enemy is empiricism, which at any moment can threaten Trump’s almost cosmic ignorance.

Comedy is increasingly verboten as well. After all, it frequently targets unmerited power and pomp, and if anyone perfectly personifies unmerited power, it’s our current president. SNL has been with us for 50 years; will it make it to 52? Combine Trump’s war on late-night comedy with his whitewashing of American history, and the collected works of Charlie Chaplin and the Marx Brothers may be bounced from the National Film Registry, and cable and streaming networks threatened, if they continue to make available performances of comics like George Carlin. If there’s one thing Donald Trump absolutely cannot take, it’s a joke. He has arrayed the full power of the state to defend his pathologically insecure ego, and an entire political party has enlisted in this pathetic and dangerous defense.

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Canceling Kimmel. Canceling Speech. Canceling Comedy. (Original Post) Celerity Yesterday OP
ok so far this year... mokeyz Yesterday #1
The FCC is literally claiming they are "news", "not comedy" LeftInTX Yesterday #2
Correct, the logic here makes absolutely zero sense in the sense of going after Kimmel AZJonnie Yesterday #5
All those right wing govt bastards all look the same anymore. Old white guys with those short grey beards. Klarkashton Yesterday #3
Repeal the 1996 Telecom Act leftstreet Yesterday #4
All talk show hosts should go all out tonight Buckeyeblue Yesterday #6
This is it in a nutshell: tanyev Yesterday #7

mokeyz

(87 posts)
1. ok so far this year...
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 04:51 PM
Yesterday

i have canceled the New York Times, Washington Post, LA Times, Paramount, Disney+ and Hulu - am I forgetting anything? The list is getting really long🤦🏻‍♀️

LeftInTX

(33,975 posts)
2. The FCC is literally claiming they are "news", "not comedy"
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 04:52 PM
Yesterday
“When you look at these other TV shows, what’s interesting is the FCC does have a rule called the equal opportunity rule,” he said. “But there’s an exception to that rule called the bona fide news exception, which means if you are a bona fide news program, you don’t have to abide by the equal opportunity rule.

Carr continued, “And over the years, the FCC has developed a body of case law on that and has suggested that most of these late night shows, other than SNL, are bona fide news programs. And potentially I would assume you can make the argument that The View is a bona fide news show, but I’m not so sure about that, and I think it’s worthwhile to have the FCC look into whether The View and some of the programs that you have still qualify as bona fide news programs and therefore exempt from the equal opportunity regime that Congress has put in place.”

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/brendan-carr-suggests-fcc-investigate-the-view-1236375049/


I'm curious. News was/is classified as the non-profit arm of the networks, hence could be regulated. Is Carr saying that late night comedy is "non-profit"? I don't know where he's getting this stuff from.

AZJonnie

(1,537 posts)
5. Correct, the logic here makes absolutely zero sense in the sense of going after Kimmel
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 05:06 PM
Yesterday

Carr's a fucking

Klarkashton

(3,994 posts)
3. All those right wing govt bastards all look the same anymore. Old white guys with those short grey beards.
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 04:55 PM
Yesterday

They are nasty assholes.

leftstreet

(37,271 posts)
4. Repeal the 1996 Telecom Act
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 04:56 PM
Yesterday

This is the natural outcome of media consolidation. Many, many predicted this.

The corporations will bow to Trump because they fear his reprisals. And they'll gut it out until Democrats have the power, knowing they'll face no consequences from that quarter

DURec

Buckeyeblue

(6,011 posts)
6. All talk show hosts should go all out tonight
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 05:48 PM
Yesterday

They should do their best anti-Trump and anti-CK material. Make the FCC and networks have to reckon with everyone.

I can't wait to see what South Park will do next week.

tanyev

(47,790 posts)
7. This is it in a nutshell:
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 06:30 PM
Yesterday
If there’s one thing Donald Trump absolutely cannot take, it’s a joke. He has arrayed the full power of the state to defend his pathologically insecure ego, and an entire political party has enlisted in this pathetic and dangerous defense.
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