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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMASSIVE BREAKING: Judge strikes down Trump's $15 Billion lawsuit against the New York Times.
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LetMyPeopleVote
(169,942 posts)pnwmom
(110,088 posts)MadameButterfly
(3,550 posts)whining that had nothing to do with the case. I can see Trump doing that but I can't believe he is actually able to find lawyers willing to do that and put their names to it.
This means the judge isn't going to tolerate a bunch of bull and the case will not win on the merits.
pnwmom
(110,088 posts)And I don't trust any R-appointed judge at this point. He could also have used this decision to tell them to get their act together, so he won't seem biased when he rules eventually in their favor.
MadameButterfly
(3,550 posts)We won't know until we know. But Trump is going way beyond what lawyers--even Republicans--are willing to do. Even Karl Rove and Ted Cruz are coming out against the Kimmel firing.
Our survival as a democracy depends not only on what the military will do, but what the judges and lawyers are willing to do. Someday things could be so corrupt that lawyers and judges can make up the law, like in Putin's Russia. But we aren't there yet. Here's hoping that judges and lawyers who spent their lives learning the law won't want to throw that all away for one guy.
COL Mustard
(7,583 posts)You can probably find someone to do almost anything.
mcar
(45,343 posts)
CincyDem
(7,225 posts)Instead he got a Bush appointee with an awareness of what is
and is not
the law.
mahatmakanejeeves
(66,749 posts)Middle District of Florida (.gov)
https://www.flmd.uscourts.gov judges steven-merry...
Judge Tabs · Federal Judicial Service District Judge, United States District Court for the Middle District of Florida
Federal Judicial Center | (.gov)
https://www.fjc.gov history judges cannon-aileen-...
Born 1981 in Cali, Colombia Federal Judicial Service: Judge, U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Florida
CincyDem
(7,225 posts)
The Roux Comes First
(1,850 posts)ancianita
(41,875 posts)sl8
(16,853 posts)He's filed suits in both the Southern and Middle Districts - why was this one filed in the Middle District?
ancianita
(41,875 posts)Maybe a lawyer on DU knows.
sl8
(16,853 posts)Starbeach
(228 posts)Read it
LetMyPeopleVote
(169,942 posts)Judge says US presidents complaint that the newspaper is spreading false content about him violates federal rule
Judge strikes down Trumpâs bn lawsuit against the New York Times
— The Guardian (@theguardian.com) 2025-09-19T16:19:37Z
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/19/trump-nyt-lawsuit-judge-ruling
The judge in the case said that Trumps complaint violated a federal rule requiring a short plain statement of the claim in an attempt to demonstrate that the plaintiff deserves relief.
Trump launched the massive lawsuit earlier this week accusing the major US publication of being a mouthpiece for the Democratic party and of spreading false and defamatory content about him.
On Friday the court said such a complaint is not a public forum for vituperation and invective or a protected platform to rage against an adversary.
The filing against the Times, the latest demonstration of the presidents willingness to use legal action against the media, was made by Trumps lawyers to a district court in Florida on Monday night.
RedWhiteBlueIsRacist
(1,128 posts)Wednesdays
(20,754 posts)He will go judge shopping until he finds another Loose Cannon.
onenote
(45,669 posts)And he''ll include attachments that aren't included in the 40 page limit in order to restate the nonsense the judge said had no place in the complaint itself.
LetMyPeopleVote
(169,942 posts)I suspect that trump will be upset at this ruling and may try to go to the 11th Circuit and then to SCOTUS. This will delay the proceedings for a long while which may be what trump wants. This case was filed for publicity and would have been dismissed if trump was going to be deposed. An appeal will keep the publicity up and avoid a deposition
Ocelot II
(127,257 posts)And if he continues to fail to comply with Rule 8 the case can be dismissed with prejudice. Rule 41 says:
Involuntary Dismissal; Effect. If the plaintiff fails to prosecute or to comply with these rules or a court order, a defendant may move to dismiss the action or any claim against it. Unless the dismissal order states otherwise, a dismissal under this subdivision (b) and any dismissal not under this ruleexcept one for lack of jurisdiction, improper venue, or failure to join a party under Rule 19 operates as an adjudication on the merits.
Wednesdays
(20,754 posts)What is that saying about pigeons playing chess?
malaise
(289,213 posts)Rec
blogslug
(39,011 posts)Judge Steven D. Merryday of the US District Court for the Middle District of Florida said Friday that the suit stands unmistakably and inexcusably athwart the requirements of Rule 8 of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure.
Merryday said Trumps legal team can refile in the next four weeks, but must keep the complaint to 40 pages or fewer.
A complaint is not supposed to be a public forum for vituperation and invective or a megaphone for public relations, he said...

WestMichRad
(2,626 posts)Was looking forward to discovery into all the allegations included in the filed lawsuit!
LetMyPeopleVote
(169,942 posts)trump will NOT be able to let go of this.
chicoescuela
(2,321 posts)NJCher
(41,463 posts)the Times will undoubtedly go after him for a frivolous lawsuit and he will have to pay their lawyers' fees.
Roc2020
(1,723 posts)of this man and the administration steep downhill losing streak in courts public opinion etc began with the texas redistricting and california retaliated with their own. That to me was when his presidency was legislatively over.
MadameButterfly
(3,550 posts)and I hope you are right
GusBob
(7,997 posts)The filing was not how it should be, the poster said it should be brief and concise
and he/she said it would be tossed
BRAVO
Turbineguy
(39,386 posts)The Discovery phase might have been fun.
LetMyPeopleVote
(169,942 posts)Calling it decidedly improper and impermissible, Judge Steven D. Merryday lambasted the 85-page complaint and said it could not stand.
Judge strikes down Trumpâs billion suit against the New York Times
— JJ's Bucket Hat (not Rodney) (@mrtriskaideka.bsky.social) 2025-09-19T16:30:10.810Z
www.washingtonpost.com/business/202...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/09/19/judge-strikes-down-trumps-15-billion-suit-against-new-york-times/
U.S. District Judge Steven D. Merryday, an appointee of President George H.W. Bush, issued a scathing ruling on Friday, lambasting the president and his lawyers for their complaint.
In this action, a prominent American citizen (perhaps the most prominent American citizen) alleges defamation by a prominent American newspaper publisher (perhaps the most prominent American newspaper publisher) and by several other corporate and natural persons, he wrote. Alleging only two simple counts of defamation, the complaint consumes eighty-five pages. Count I appears on page eighty, and Count II appears on page eighty-three....
In addition to the legal issues at hand, Merryday bemoaned the writing.
The reader of the complaint must labor through allegations, such as a new journalistic low for the hopelessly compromised and tarnished Gray Lady.' The reader must endure an allegation of the desperate need to defame with a partisan spear rather than report with an authentic looking glass and an allegation that the false narrative about The Apprentice was just the tip of Defendants melting iceberg of falsehoods.
The judge said every lawyer should know that a complaint is not a public forum for vituperation and invective and not a megaphone for public relations or a podium for a passionate oration at a political rally or the functional equivalent of the Hyde Park Speakers Corner.
gfarber
(100 posts)A judge gave Trumps lawsuit a slap,
Said, This legal mess is pure crap.
Eighty-five pages?
Filled with rants and outrages?
Try again and cut all the flap!
Trump filed a suit with a roar,
Eighty-five pages (and more!).
The judge rolled his eyes,
Said, Cut the hot lies
This aint a damn Twitter war.
NJCher
(41,463 posts)
rsdsharp
(11,316 posts)That means he did it on his own motion; the Times didnt move to strike. The judge (and the pleading Rule) was so offended by this garbage he struck it down on his own. I dont ever remember seeing that before.
MayReasonRule
(3,810 posts)that was quick!
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) 2025-09-19T16:22:24.849Z
BoRaGard
(7,586 posts)
ancianita
(41,875 posts)ancianita
(41,875 posts)just like he did a similar suit in 2024. He should be fined for filing what amounts to a SLAPP suit.
LetMyPeopleVote
(169,942 posts)This case was filed for publicity and was never going to go to trial if trump was going to be deposed. If this was a real case that was going to go to trial, trump would replead. An appeal may get trump a chance to show his hurt feelings and get more publicity without risking a deposition
ancianita
(41,875 posts)onenote
(45,669 posts)See post #31.
This is not unlike the Newsmax case vs Fox that was dismissed without prejudice for being a procedurally improper complaint. Some DUers were predicting Newsmax would appeal -- but as some of us predicted, they did no such thing. They simply found a way to refile the complaint that avoided the procedural issue that got it dismissed.
Ocelot II
(127,257 posts)If he wants this lawsuit to proceed, his lawyers will have to comply with the requirements of Rule 8 of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure as the judge ordered, or it will be dismissed for good - and if the reevised complaint is still a pile of crap the lawyers will probably be sanctioned.
ancianita
(41,875 posts)
Nixie
(17,847 posts)from court filings?? It has to be soon..?! Filing frivolous lawsuits that are dismissed means you are just using the courts to harass people. I thought there was a way to stop these types of harassers.
Disaffected
(5,885 posts)Why indeed not - he meets all the criteria.
Aren't there "slapp suit" laws or some-such?
onenote
(45,669 posts)After Trump re-files his complaint.
The reason the Times hadn't already invoked the anti-SLAPP suit law is that the complaint was only filed four days ago and they were probably still working on their response, which wouldn't be due until mid-October.
Disaffected
(5,885 posts)and if you and I did it, we'd get that slap. How he's gotten this far is utterly ridiculous and most likely based on the fact that he occupies the office of the presidency.
Javaman
(64,511 posts)Trueblue1968
(18,767 posts)senseandsensibility
(23,887 posts)and it should be. It shows what happens when you fight back.
onenote
(45,669 posts)Trump has a window to re-file a more condensed (40 page limit) of his 85 complaint. Moreover, attachments to the complaint don't count against the 40 page limit so don't be surprised if a lot of the material dropped from the main complaint finds its way into attachments.
So not really that big a deal.
onenote
(45,669 posts)First, it was dismissed without prejudice on a technical procedural ground.
Second, Trump was given time to re-file a more condensed version of the complaint -- 40 pages instead of 85 -- but attachments to the complaint won't count against the page limit so I expect a lot of the material dropped from the complaint to show up in attachments.
Third, the judge was quite clear and emphatic that the decision did not concern the merits of the complaint.
lark
(25,470 posts)They have no shame and just want to take over everything in the US an are well on their way to doing just that - sickening as that is!!
Mr. Evil
(3,393 posts)mahatmakanejeeves
(66,749 posts)Reposted by Disney Surrenders Hat
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@stevevladeck.bsky.social
When we get to pleading in my first-year Civil Procedure class, my students often ask me just how over the top a complaint would have to be for a judge to strike it without even being *asked* to do so.
Thanks to President Trump, we have an answer:
storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.us...
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flmd.447437/gov.uscourts.flmd.447437.5.0.pdf
storage.courtlistener.com
September 19, 2025 at 1:22 PM
When we get to pleading in my first-year Civil Procedure class, my students often ask me just how over the top a complaint would have to be for a judge to strike it without even being *asked* to do so.
— Steve Vladeck (@stevevladeck.bsky.social) 2025-09-19T17:22:38.624Z
Thanks to President Trump, we have an answer:
storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.us...
ejbr
(5,881 posts)The Times will still fold like these other a-holes .
LetMyPeopleVote
(169,942 posts)Last edited Fri Sep 19, 2025, 03:53 PM - Edit history (1)
Like a teacher telling a student to redo his homework, a federal court told the presidents lawyers to file a less ridiculous document.
Weâre gonna need a bigger bottle of ketchup. Judge rejects Trumpâs case against The New York Times, tells lawyers to rewrite it www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddo...
— (@hairgae.bsky.social) 2025-09-19T16:36:39.308Z
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/judge-rejects-trump-new-york-times-case-rcna232429
Four days later, a federal judge rejected the case but not on the merits. Reuters reported:
A federal judge on Friday struck Donald Trumps $15 billion defamation lawsuit against the New York Times. U.S. District Judge Steven Merryday said Trump violated a federal procedural rule requiring a short and plain statement of why he deserves relief, and that a complaint is not a public forum for vituperation and invective or a protected platform to rage against an adversary.
,,,,,,The judges reaction was understandable. Putting aside every other consideration the White Houses unprecedented offensive against the free press, the absurd dollar amount, the fact that the newspaper doesnt appear to have done anything wrong, the unsettling frequency with which Trump files civil suits that seem awfully frivolous, et al. the actual legal document filed with the federal court in Florida was an 85-page joke.
Reading it, I felt a little embarrassed for the lawyers who were responsible for producing it. The complaint (Im using the word loosely) included random Trump-related images that seemed to have been included for no apparent reason. It described in unnecessary detail assorted television and film appearances the president made before his political career, as well as his role in beauty pageants......
That was true, though Merryday clearly wasnt amused. Judges tend to prefer serious legal documents to self-indulgent public relations presentations. In fact, Merrydays smackdown was so brutal that Politicos Kyle Cheney noted that the judge called Trumps court filing essentially garbage.
In a court order dripping with disdain, Merryday wrote: As every lawyer knows (or is presumed to know), a complaint is not a public forum for vituperation and invective not a protected platform to rage against an adversary. A complaint is not a megaphone for public relations or a podium for a passionate oration at a political rally or the functional equivalent of the Hyde Park Speakers Corner.
]A complaint is a mechanism to fairly, precisely, directly, soberly, and economically inform the defendants in a professionally constrained manner consistent with the dignity of the adversarial process in an Article III court of the United States of the nature and content of the claims. A complaint is a short, plain, direct statement of allegations of fact sufficient to create a facially plausible claim for relief and sufficient to permit the formulation of an informed response. Although lawyers receive a modicum of expressive latitude in pleading the claim of a client, the complaint in this action extends far beyond the outer bound of that latitude.
Has trump responded to this ruling yet?
choie
(6,103 posts)onenote
(45,669 posts)choie
(6,103 posts)BigmanPigman
(53,797 posts)at the irony of this shit show lawsuit.
RazorbackExpat
(606 posts)starring Basil Rathbone and Nigel Bruce, which had a Scotsman who liked to sue anyone for anything, no matter how ridiculous the reason was. Trump is like that Scotsman.
FakeNoose
(38,680 posts)Chump has 30 days to rewrite his complaint and present it to the court in standard format.
If it's over 40 pages, then the Judge will send it back again for another rewrite.