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WEBSTER, N.Y. (AP) Police in New York state say a man who ambushed firefighters had served 17 years for manslaughter in the death of his grandmother.
Webster Police Chief Gerald Pickering says 62-year-old William Spengler was found dead of a self-inflicted gunshot to the head.
Police say he set fire to a car and house to lure firefighters to his house on the shore of Lake Ontario early Monday.
When firefighters arrived, he opened fire, probably with a rifle. Two firefighters died at the scene and two others were hospitalized. A fifth first responder was injured.
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/firefighter-shot-scene-blaze-western-ny
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Oh never mind. MORE GUNZ
Recursion
(56,582 posts)zappaman
(20,606 posts)MineralMan
(146,325 posts)a fly rod may well produce a very nice trout. As seen in the foreground in the photo below. Further, one cannot usually see a trout in a riffle, so a rifle would not be useful in killing a trout in a riffle.
Brother Buzz
(36,458 posts)Richard Brautigan found a trout stream in the back of a junk-yard, stacked up in sections behind broken cars and abandoned cookers. The sections cost $6.50 per foot.
zappaman
(20,606 posts)Can anyone get a riffle?
Is there a waiting period?
Brother Buzz
(36,458 posts)It's strictly a catch and release trout stream, and the rumor persists, one section contains a hunchback rainbow trout.
jpak
(41,758 posts)Someone bought it "legally" and sold it "legally".
yup
Recursion
(56,582 posts)Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)Recursion
(56,582 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Recursion
(56,582 posts)We're stuck with the unfortunate problem that guns in general are not registered. I wish it were otherwise. However, if the original retail sale of the rifle was somewhat recent, it may have been recorded.
Long guns, in general, have less of a paper trail than handguns because (the headlines of the past few weeks notwithstanding) they're used only in a tiny minority of crimes.
janx
(24,128 posts)at a retail location?
slackmaster
(60,567 posts)...of a felon.
janx
(24,128 posts)Whovian
(2,866 posts)When I asked him about this he explained they were in his wife's name.
This guy is a business owner, big in his church and community. His felony came from when he ran down a homeless man while drunk. Not my favorite acquaintance. But a good example of how easy it is for anyone to get a gun.
Logical
(22,457 posts)A felon CANNOT have a unsecured gun in his house, no matter who it belongs to.
If it is in a safe and the felon does not know the combination then that is OK.
Or stored offsite is ok.
Whovian
(2,866 posts)But if I am wrong, I will happily turn Ron Hardy's ass in.
Oh, Gee did I say his name? His company's name?
Recursion
(56,582 posts)or somebody else bought it more recently, and either illegally transferred it to him, or he stole it from him.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)it probably wasn't difficult to obtain one.
Earth_First
(14,910 posts)His sister and their mother who died in October.
I hope his sister was not a victim in this horrendous tragedy...
Cha
(297,532 posts)Never should have been let out, imv.
Logical
(22,457 posts)LisaL
(44,974 posts)Cha
(297,532 posts)Logical
(22,457 posts)realgreen
(47 posts)It had to of been a gun.