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womanofthehills

(10,448 posts)
Mon Oct 6, 2025, 01:51 AM Monday

🚨 URGENT: Scottish flotilla participant Yvonne Ridley is missing

🚨 URGENT: Scottish flotilla participant Yvonne Ridley is missing after being imprisoned by Israeli forces while on a humanitarian mission to Gaza.

Yvonne Ridley had been held at Ketziot prison on hunger strike and denied her medication.

She was due to be deported to Istanbul but disappeared during the transfer. Her current whereabouts are unknown and we are deeply concerned for her safety.

Take Action NOW by contacting the Foreign Office to demand that the Government intervene immediately to ensure Yvonne’s safe return.


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🚨 URGENT: Scottish flotilla participant Yvonne Ridley is missing (Original Post) womanofthehills Monday OP
I really hope the Scots canetoad Monday #1
Add Netanyahu to the list. usonian Monday #2
Did anyone try to contact her family? Thefamily says she is "safe and accounted for", despite the wild rumors Glorious bastard Tuesday #3
Another update: she has been released to Jordan muriel_volestrangler Tuesday #4
She has been deported to Jordan. Glorious bastard Tuesday #5
Nah, "deported" is used for when you want to be in a country but are thrown out muriel_volestrangler Tuesday #6
Deportation is not contingent on the deportee's desire to stay in the country or lack thereof. Glorious bastard Tuesday #7
I see your point, but that talks about "under that country's laws". The capture was lawless, muriel_volestrangler Tuesday #8
The detention was lawful under international law governing blockades. Glorious bastard Tuesday #9
It was a kidnapping in international waters (nt) muriel_volestrangler Tuesday #10
It was neither. Glorious bastard Tuesday #11
"The first boats were stopped about 70 nautical miles off the Gaza coast in international waters and others closer." muriel_volestrangler Tuesday #13
Not really: EX500rider Tuesday #15
Yes, really. muriel_volestrangler Tuesday #16
This message was self-deleted by its author Celerity Tuesday #17
It was indeed a legal detention , it is a declared war zone with a maritime blockade EX500rider Tuesday #12
IMO they were lucky Israel stopped them, how did they see that playing out? EX500rider Tuesday #14

usonian

(21,249 posts)
2. Add Netanyahu to the list.
Mon Oct 6, 2025, 02:42 AM
Monday

Trump
Epstein
Putin

Hell's gonna be mighty crowded.

Here are the two.



Trump looking like the Epstein vault is going to drop and he's getting a circumcision.

muriel_volestrangler

(104,954 posts)
4. Another update: she has been released to Jordan
Tue Oct 7, 2025, 12:12 PM
Tuesday
All Scottish flotilla activists released from Israel

THE remaining Scottish activists who took part in the Global Sumud Flotilla have all been released by Israel.

The National understands Yvonne Ridley, Sid Khan and Jim Hickey are currently in Jordan, where 131 activists were deported on Tuesday morning.

They had been imprisoned in the notorious Ketziot jail after Israel intercepted the flotilla overnight on Wednesday, which was attempting to deliver much-needed aid to Gaza.
...
Ridley, 67, is originally from the north east of England but is based in Scotland and is a founding member of the Alba Party.

Officials previously described her treatment in prison as "aggressive" and "intimidating", leading to concerns for her welfare, although a statement from her family confirmed on Monday evening that Ridley was "safe and accounted for".

https://www.thenational.scot/news/25522892.scottish-flotilla-activists-released-israel/

muriel_volestrangler

(104,954 posts)
6. Nah, "deported" is used for when you want to be in a country but are thrown out
Tue Oct 7, 2025, 04:20 PM
Tuesday

None of them wanted to go to Israel. They wanted to go to Gaza. The Israelis captured them in international waters, imprisoned them in Israel, and have now released them - to Jordan, in this case.

Glorious bastard

(84 posts)
7. Deportation is not contingent on the deportee's desire to stay in the country or lack thereof.
Tue Oct 7, 2025, 04:37 PM
Tuesday

It is a unilateral action of removal of a deportee by the state.

But I don’t want to argue something I don’t know much about, so I will let the Cornell School of Law do it for me:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/deportation

muriel_volestrangler

(104,954 posts)
8. I see your point, but that talks about "under that country's laws". The capture was lawless,
Tue Oct 7, 2025, 04:59 PM
Tuesday

and there's no law specified on what to do with captives that Israel has taken unlawfully. This was not "formal".

Law schools don't usually write about a process for a rogue regime.

Glorious bastard

(84 posts)
9. The detention was lawful under international law governing blockades.
Tue Oct 7, 2025, 05:17 PM
Tuesday

Don’t quote me, but I believe it is spelled out somewhere in the first additional protocol to the Geneva Conventions.

The deportation was lawful under Israeli law.

muriel_volestrangler

(104,954 posts)
13. "The first boats were stopped about 70 nautical miles off the Gaza coast in international waters and others closer."
Tue Oct 7, 2025, 05:58 PM
Tuesday
The first boats were stopped about 70 nautical miles off the Gaza coast in international waters and others closer. Israel has been policing this area but does not have jurisdiction there.
...
A growing number of countries have expressed concern over the incident, criticising Israel for staging the interception in international waters.
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That boat appeared to be the Marinette, which the GSF said was still in communication and carrying six people on board. The flotilla's tracking system showed it sailing in international waters a long distance from Gaza's coastline on Thursday afternoon.

Israel said none of the boats entered the blockade area, though the GSF tracking suggests one of its boats, the Mikeno, may have entered Gaza's territorial waters, but remains out of contact.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0lk292jww4o

EX500rider

(12,005 posts)
15. Not really:
Tue Oct 7, 2025, 06:07 PM
Tuesday

In international law, there is no fixed maximum distance for enforcing a maritime blockade; it is defined by its declared geographic limits and the blockading power's ability to make it "effective". Blockades can be enforced in international waters, not just within a country's own territorial sea.

muriel_volestrangler

(104,954 posts)
16. Yes, really.
Tue Oct 7, 2025, 06:10 PM
Tuesday

They didn't "enforce a blockade"; they kidnapped the crew and took them to a country they didn't want to go to.

Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #13)

EX500rider

(12,005 posts)
12. It was indeed a legal detention , it is a declared war zone with a maritime blockade
Tue Oct 7, 2025, 05:49 PM
Tuesday
Arguments supporting the blockade's legality

Response to armed conflict: In 2011, the UN's Palmer Report concluded that Israel's naval blockade was a legal security measure in the context of an armed conflict with Hamas, Gaza's de facto governing authority. Blockades are a recognized tactic of naval warfare, provided they meet certain conditions.

Legitimate security objective: Israel maintains that the blockade is necessary to prevent weapons, ammunition, and other military supplies from reaching militant groups in Gaza. Legal scholars supporting this view, like Ruth Wedgwood and Eric Posner, argue that the "war-like conditions" between Israel and Hamas justify the blockade under the law of armed conflict.

Effective and notified: Proponents point out that the naval blockade was formally declared and consistently enforced, and Israel provided notification via maritime alerts and diplomatic channels.

Proportionality and humanitarian access: Some legal analyses have found the blockade to be proportionate, stating that the naval component has a limited impact on the overall humanitarian situation compared to land crossings. In this view, Israel allows humanitarian aid to be transferred to Gaza through land crossings and inspected at the port of Ashdod.


UN findings:
https://unwatch.org/item-7/claim/claim-6-israels-blockade-of-gaza-is-illegal/

EX500rider

(12,005 posts)
14. IMO they were lucky Israel stopped them, how did they see that playing out?
Tue Oct 7, 2025, 06:02 PM
Tuesday

With gangs & Hamas swarming aid trucks & shooting people did they think they were just going to pull up and have a peaceful docking?

All sit on the beach and sing Kumbaya by the fire while holding hands?

Swarmed and/or mugged at best, kidnapped or killed at worse.

Hamas is not the only bad actor there, we got:

Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ)
Popular Resistance Committees (PRC)
Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigade
Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine (DFLP)
Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP)
Various ISIS-affiliated groups
etc

Not that they really had much aid anyway, the 400 activists took up most of the space on those small boats. Which would have pissed off the locals even more IMO.

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