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Coventina

(28,826 posts)
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 07:56 PM 10 hrs ago

Well, I just texted my MAGA Dad.

As you know, I basically cut off associating with him last October, when I found out he was going to vote for RUMP.

I texted him the following message:

So how do you feel about Trump tearing down the East Wing of the White House to build his ballroom? With zero permission or accountability? And spending $260 million taxpayer dollars to do it? What if Obama had done that?

He's read it, but not responded.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

He's either pissed at me, or ashamed, or maybe both.

I probably shouldn't have done that, but I'm just soooooooooooooooooooooooooo angry about this!



It's shitheads like him that has enabled this.....

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Well, I just texted my MAGA Dad. (Original Post) Coventina 10 hrs ago OP
It's a cult BeerBarrelPolka 10 hrs ago #1
Thanks. Coventina 10 hrs ago #2
I feel like you BeerBarrelPolka 10 hrs ago #5
MAGAs.. "what about..." BlueWaveNeverEnd 10 hrs ago #3
Yeah, but what about when Obama wore a tan suit? Bernardo de La Paz 10 hrs ago #4
and "what about" when Michelle Obama went sleeveless? BlueWaveNeverEnd 10 hrs ago #6
If I had arms like hers, I'd go sleeveless too! JoseBalow 9 hrs ago #29
It's possible that your father knows he voted for the wrong person... chouchou 10 hrs ago #7
Yeah, people don't lIke admitting when they're wrong ShazzieB 10 hrs ago #18
It's easier to fool someone Dr. T 10 hrs ago #22
Whoevsr said it, I definitely agree! ShazzieB 10 hrs ago #23
OH MY FUCKING GOD!!!!!! Here is his response: Coventina 10 hrs ago #8
As soybean farmers in fly over country would say BOSSHOG 10 hrs ago #10
Not tax payer dollars? Then what else? Everybody knows DJT doesn't use his own money for anything. MIButterfly 10 hrs ago #11
Donations from Ilsa 5 hrs ago #49
Donations or bribes... Big Blue Marble 5 hrs ago #54
Sometimes you just have to admit that a relative (even a parent) is not worth the air they breathe. erronis 10 hrs ago #12
I'm so sorry BeerBarrelPolka 10 hrs ago #14
There are procedures for renovations Mz Pip 10 hrs ago #19
You want him to die just because he voted for Trump? Polybius 9 hrs ago #30
I want him to die before I grow to despise him Coventina 8 hrs ago #34
You have my sympathy. He's already dead to you just like my Talibangelical MAGAt mother is dead to me. OMGWTF 9 hrs ago #31
So....Donnie is going to stiff the contractors again? paleotn 9 hrs ago #32
Thanks for sharing.. good to know in advance mountain grammy 8 hrs ago #35
How the ballroom is being funded is still largely unknown Martin Eden 8 hrs ago #38
I'm SO SORRY you have to go through something like this at a time like this. calimary 5 hrs ago #50
Call it an intervention to his Right wing addiction... Trueblue Texan 10 hrs ago #9
LESSON LEARNED HERE: DON"T REACH OUT TO MAGATS! Coventina 10 hrs ago #13
You're not stupid BeerBarrelPolka 10 hrs ago #16
You're Hurting like so many of Cha 10 hrs ago #17
It takes more than once. Deprogrammers say to ask questions... lostnfound 10 hrs ago #24
There's No "What Abouts?" here... This Cha 10 hrs ago #15
As soon as I read your OP I asked out loud, BigmanPigman 10 hrs ago #20
I knew Trump has no bottom. I guess I thought my dad did. Coventina 10 hrs ago #21
I'm sorry. It's a distressing situation. electric_blue68 7 hrs ago #41
Frankenstein's Monster is in the White House castle. BidenRocks 9 hrs ago #25
That's an insult to the Monster. Coventina 9 hrs ago #27
But please no Tiki torches, the idiots looked ridiculous when they used them in Charlottesville. Dave Bowman 9 hrs ago #28
Maybe you could ask ... mntleo2 9 hrs ago #26
Ballroom funding Remball 9 hrs ago #33
Probably with no accountability for money collected vs spent with 'profit/excess' going to Trump. Norrrm 8 hrs ago #36
Post removed Post removed 8 hrs ago #37
I am so sorry. herding cats 8 hrs ago #39
Graphic in the works. I was busy today but had many inspirations. usonian 8 hrs ago #40
Post removed Post removed 7 hrs ago #42
Odd post. Nothing to do with the OP, has spelling error, oddly pointed invocation. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz 7 hrs ago #43
I hope the bot canetoad 7 hrs ago #44
Message auto-removed Name removed 7 hrs ago #45
Three posts with three insincere misspellings. Still nothing to do with the OP. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz 7 hrs ago #46
This looks like a troll JoseBalow 5 hrs ago #52
Who is Mamdini? Emile 1 hr ago #57
Sorry about your father FHRRK 7 hrs ago #47
Share usonian 6 hrs ago #48
Keep it up! Republican voters OWN this shite show Bread and Circuses 5 hrs ago #51
Don't beat yourself up because you have a good heart Keepthesoulalive 5 hrs ago #53
A late night thought. usonian 4 hrs ago #55
Message auto-removed Name removed 4 hrs ago #56

BeerBarrelPolka

(1,901 posts)
5. I feel like you
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 08:04 PM
10 hrs ago

Not in a family way as I have no family, but in a people way. I just want the magats to snap out of it, but they won't.

chouchou

(2,497 posts)
7. It's possible that your father knows he voted for the wrong person...
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 08:07 PM
10 hrs ago

...and is severely embarrassed. I have a friend exactly like that. (She won't admit it)

Dr. T

(431 posts)
22. It's easier to fool someone
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 08:37 PM
10 hrs ago

than convince them that they've been fooled. I think that's a Mark Twain quote.

Coventina

(28,826 posts)
8. OH MY FUCKING GOD!!!!!! Here is his response:
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 08:10 PM
10 hrs ago

"It was emphasized that it is not tax payer dollars. As to changes to the White House, I'm sure each president/First lady has made their own adaptations. This one may be on a larger scale than others. The White House appears to be more a location for hosting people and events than for housing the first family. Biden didn't use it much."

FUCK HIM!

He's dying and he can't die fast enough for me!

BOSSHOG

(43,881 posts)
10. As soybean farmers in fly over country would say
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 08:23 PM
10 hrs ago

Maybe the president will pay us next year.

MIButterfly

(1,518 posts)
11. Not tax payer dollars? Then what else? Everybody knows DJT doesn't use his own money for anything.
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 08:24 PM
10 hrs ago

I'm sorry about your father. He sounds like my uncle; he has an excuse for everything DJT does and I mean EVERYTHING. There's no reasoning with this type of person. Absolutely none. It's an exercise in futility. That's why I never talk politics with him and change the subject when he starts.

Of course, my tongue hurts like hell from biting it but that's the price I have to pay for keeping the peace.

Ilsa

(63,486 posts)
49. Donations from
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 12:52 AM
5 hrs ago

CEOs and other entities rump will owe huge favors to after it's finished. Possibly a huge money laundering scheme right in our faces.

erronis

(21,675 posts)
12. Sometimes you just have to admit that a relative (even a parent) is not worth the air they breathe.
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 08:24 PM
10 hrs ago

I'm sorry. The genetic ties are strong, but the intellectual/social ties are better. Best when they are in sync, but not always common.

Mz Pip

(28,246 posts)
19. There are procedures for renovations
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 08:29 PM
10 hrs ago

Trump bypassed all of them and just went ahead with what he wanted. Nobody had the guts to stop him.

Polybius

(20,999 posts)
30. You want him to die just because he voted for Trump?
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 09:07 PM
9 hrs ago

That's a bit much. His response was rather tame compared to the rest of MAGA.

Coventina

(28,826 posts)
34. I want him to die before I grow to despise him
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 09:46 PM
8 hrs ago

I feel like all my memories are tainted now. He was a closet nazi all the time

OMGWTF

(4,936 posts)
31. You have my sympathy. He's already dead to you just like my Talibangelical MAGAt mother is dead to me.
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 09:08 PM
9 hrs ago

mountain grammy

(28,345 posts)
35. Thanks for sharing.. good to know in advance
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 09:52 PM
8 hrs ago

what the brain dead response will be from the cult. I wondered how they would spin it and boy can they spin.

This is infuriating what he's doing. He's a pig and has no intention of leaving alive so everyday I wake up and ask:

Is he dead yet?

Martin Eden

(15,019 posts)
38. How the ballroom is being funded is still largely unknown
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 10:12 PM
8 hrs ago

I checked multiple sources including BBC, and all are reporting private funding -- though that remains to be seen.

Your father is at best gullible in characterizing the demolition of the East Wing and construction of a huge ballroom as the kind of renovations previous presidents have done. Facts and common sense refute that Faux Noise talking point.

And, of course, what he's doing is not lawful. He fired the board that governs such things, then promoted one of his own staff to say the laws don't pertain to demolition.

There are even worse abuses of power by this administration you can cite, though your dad is likely to respond with more righwing gaslight talking ooints.

calimary

(88,178 posts)
50. I'm SO SORRY you have to go through something like this at a time like this.
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 01:12 AM
5 hrs ago

Just bad all around. But looking at those demolition photos - O. M. G. OMG OMG OMG!!!

Trueblue Texan

(3,897 posts)
9. Call it an intervention to his Right wing addiction...
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 08:12 PM
10 hrs ago

...and be proud of holding him accountable.

Coventina

(28,826 posts)
13. LESSON LEARNED HERE: DON"T REACH OUT TO MAGATS!
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 08:24 PM
10 hrs ago

Gods, I'm so stupid!



ETA: And his response about Obama? He claims he wouldn't have cared. What a crock of shit!

lostnfound

(17,250 posts)
24. It takes more than once. Deprogrammers say to ask questions...
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 08:39 PM
10 hrs ago

asking questions causes cult members to ask questions of themselves, too. So the question to follow up with is: “you’re right. Dad, private people ARE paying for it — got any ideas what they hope to get in exchange for their big donations?” Like what’s the payoff? Will it be good for the country?

According to Robert Reich:
-Google, whose CEO thanked Trump for "resolution" of an antitrust case
-Palantir, which has lucrative contracts with ICE
-Blackstone's Stephen Schwarzman, who would profit from Trump's regulatory rollbacks for private equity

Cha

(315,169 posts)
15. There's No "What Abouts?" here... This
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 08:25 PM
10 hrs ago

is Tearing Down the East Wing of the People's House to build himself a Vanity ballroom for Fascists.. and Spending $250 Million $$$ of Our Tax Payers $$$$ To Do It.

Unamerican Shitting on the American People. May Karma Get his Nazi Ass Soon!

BigmanPigman

(54,146 posts)
20. As soon as I read your OP I asked out loud,
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 08:33 PM
10 hrs ago

"Why would you do that?". I guess you won't be doing this again for a while, if ever. Go with your instinct! It keeps me from doing stuff like that, which I am often considering doing but then my instinct tells me "why would you do that, will it matter, will it change anything, will it make me even more pissed off?". I am an emotional person and I KNOW the answer...it WILL make me MORE pissed off!!!!!

Coventina

(28,826 posts)
21. I knew Trump has no bottom. I guess I thought my dad did.
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 08:36 PM
10 hrs ago

He does not.

Stupid of me. There is no bottom for cult members.

BidenRocks

(2,407 posts)
25. Frankenstein's Monster is in the White House castle.
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 08:44 PM
9 hrs ago

We are the Villagers.

It's only a matter of when.

Dave Bowman

(6,068 posts)
28. But please no Tiki torches, the idiots looked ridiculous when they used them in Charlottesville.
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 08:57 PM
9 hrs ago

mntleo2

(2,630 posts)
26. Maybe you could ask ...
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 08:45 PM
9 hrs ago

How happy he is about jacking up his healthcare so tRump's greedy $billionaire buddies can buy a bigger yachts and/or jets to hell with any other Americans? the No Kings march and Bernie Sanders speeches are heueueuege and not all of them are progressives.



Is he ecstatic that your dad gets tm make rich men richer? Here is an article about it: https://www.kff.org/affordable-care-act/aca-marketplace-premium-payments-would-more-than-double-on-average-next-year-if-enhanced-premium-tax-credits-expire/

Just sayin' ...

Cat from Seattle

Remball

(4 posts)
33. Ballroom funding
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 09:23 PM
9 hrs ago

Supposedly it is funded by private donors, known and anonymous, and by Trump. Supposedly no taxpayer money involved.

Norrrm

(3,190 posts)
36. Probably with no accountability for money collected vs spent with 'profit/excess' going to Trump.
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 09:54 PM
8 hrs ago

Response to Coventina (Original post)

herding cats

(19,868 posts)
39. I am so sorry.
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 10:33 PM
8 hrs ago

I've lost people dear to me too. I know how it hurts deep down even though it's for our own good.

I doubt he's suddenly become self aware. They're so deep down that rabbit hole. I had an elderly uber driver from a nearby rural town working in Austin (TX) pick me up a few weeks ago to give me and my daughter ride downtown. Her profile said she was driving because she was paying for her husband's brain cancer treatment. I told her I was sorry her husband was sick. My daughter told her I was also battling cancer and struggling financially to stay alive. I mentioned she might look into Obamacare to see if it might help her. She said it's the ACA, not Obamacare, and Trump was working on a better plan and how he was the best thing to happen to this country in ages. By the time she dropped us off my daughter and I both bolted from the vehicle.

usonian

(21,735 posts)
40. Graphic in the works. I was busy today but had many inspirations.
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 10:38 PM
8 hrs ago

I'll alert you, so you can share.

Response to Coventina (Original post)

Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #43)

JoseBalow

(8,763 posts)
52. This looks like a troll
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 01:17 AM
5 hrs ago

I can tell from some of the pixels, and from seeing quite a few trolls in my time.

FHRRK

(1,233 posts)
47. Sorry about your father
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 11:08 PM
7 hrs ago

But at this point, all Trump supporters are bad.

It isn’t you that is the problem, unless he is a billionaire, in which case he is still the problem.

Keepthesoulalive

(1,935 posts)
53. Don't beat yourself up because you have a good heart
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 01:22 AM
5 hrs ago

And you wanted him to have one too. He is sick with fear, hate and selfishness. I am glad you don’t have that burden. For whatever reason we have all had to adjust to new family situations. Your family and friends are here.

usonian

(21,735 posts)
55. A late night thought.
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 02:01 AM
4 hrs ago

You really aren't talking to the person. You're talking to what amounts to a chatbot programmed to respond in a predetermined way. The real person under there no doubt has flaws, but a cult member gives up individuality, so you really are talking to the cult persona, or chatbot, IMO.

Like I said, that does not wash away personal flaws, but those are subjugated, and while they are indeed "improvable", the group mind is in control until the spell is broken. I read a bit on cults, for survival in these times, and a couple of possible escapes are a feeling of betrayal, and also inability to keep holding the contradictions in one's mind that cults demand. I defer to experts, but none of this is easy.

Response to usonian (Reply #55)

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