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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWell, I just texted my MAGA Dad.
As you know, I basically cut off associating with him last October, when I found out he was going to vote for RUMP.
I texted him the following message:
So how do you feel about Trump tearing down the East Wing of the White House to build his ballroom? With zero permission or accountability? And spending $260 million taxpayer dollars to do it? What if Obama had done that?
He's read it, but not responded.
I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
He's either pissed at me, or ashamed, or maybe both.
I probably shouldn't have done that, but I'm just soooooooooooooooooooooooooo angry about this!
It's shitheads like him that has enabled this.....

BeerBarrelPolka
(1,901 posts)And it's OK for you to vent.
Coventina
(28,826 posts)
BeerBarrelPolka
(1,901 posts)Not in a family way as I have no family, but in a people way. I just want the magats to snap out of it, but they won't.
BlueWaveNeverEnd
(11,776 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(59,737 posts)BlueWaveNeverEnd
(11,776 posts)JoseBalow
(8,763 posts)
chouchou
(2,497 posts)...and is severely embarrassed. I have a friend exactly like that. (She won't admit it)
ShazzieB
(21,823 posts)Dr. T
(431 posts)than convince them that they've been fooled. I think that's a Mark Twain quote.
ShazzieB
(21,823 posts)Coventina
(28,826 posts)"It was emphasized that it is not tax payer dollars. As to changes to the White House, I'm sure each president/First lady has made their own adaptations. This one may be on a larger scale than others. The White House appears to be more a location for hosting people and events than for housing the first family. Biden didn't use it much."
FUCK HIM!
He's dying and he can't die fast enough for me!
BOSSHOG
(43,881 posts)Maybe the president will pay us next year.
MIButterfly
(1,518 posts)I'm sorry about your father. He sounds like my uncle; he has an excuse for everything DJT does and I mean EVERYTHING. There's no reasoning with this type of person. Absolutely none. It's an exercise in futility. That's why I never talk politics with him and change the subject when he starts.
Of course, my tongue hurts like hell from biting it but that's the price I have to pay for keeping the peace.
Ilsa
(63,486 posts)CEOs and other entities rump will owe huge favors to after it's finished. Possibly a huge money laundering scheme right in our faces.
Big Blue Marble
(5,642 posts)you decide.
erronis
(21,675 posts)I'm sorry. The genetic ties are strong, but the intellectual/social ties are better. Best when they are in sync, but not always common.
BeerBarrelPolka
(1,901 posts)That's a cult member response
Mz Pip
(28,246 posts)Trump bypassed all of them and just went ahead with what he wanted. Nobody had the guts to stop him.
Polybius
(20,999 posts)That's a bit much. His response was rather tame compared to the rest of MAGA.
Coventina
(28,826 posts)I feel like all my memories are tainted now. He was a closet nazi all the time
OMGWTF
(4,936 posts)paleotn
(21,053 posts)mountain grammy
(28,345 posts)what the brain dead response will be from the cult. I wondered how they would spin it and boy can they spin.
This is infuriating what he's doing. He's a pig and has no intention of leaving alive so everyday I wake up and ask:
Is he dead yet?
Martin Eden
(15,019 posts)I checked multiple sources including BBC, and all are reporting private funding -- though that remains to be seen.
Your father is at best gullible in characterizing the demolition of the East Wing and construction of a huge ballroom as the kind of renovations previous presidents have done. Facts and common sense refute that Faux Noise talking point.
And, of course, what he's doing is not lawful. He fired the board that governs such things, then promoted one of his own staff to say the laws don't pertain to demolition.
There are even worse abuses of power by this administration you can cite, though your dad is likely to respond with more righwing gaslight talking ooints.
calimary
(88,178 posts)Just bad all around. But looking at those demolition photos - O. M. G. OMG OMG OMG!!!
Trueblue Texan
(3,897 posts)...and be proud of holding him accountable.
Coventina
(28,826 posts)Gods, I'm so stupid!
ETA: And his response about Obama? He claims he wouldn't have cared. What a crock of shit!
BeerBarrelPolka
(1,901 posts)You are wishful.
Cha
(315,169 posts)of us.
lostnfound
(17,250 posts)asking questions causes cult members to ask questions of themselves, too. So the question to follow up with is: youre right. Dad, private people ARE paying for it got any ideas what they hope to get in exchange for their big donations? Like whats the payoff? Will it be good for the country?
According to Robert Reich:
-Google, whose CEO thanked Trump for "resolution" of an antitrust case
-Palantir, which has lucrative contracts with ICE
-Blackstone's Stephen Schwarzman, who would profit from Trump's regulatory rollbacks for private equity
Cha
(315,169 posts)is Tearing Down the East Wing of the People's House to build himself a Vanity ballroom for Fascists.. and Spending $250 Million $$$ of Our Tax Payers $$$$ To Do It.
Unamerican Shitting on the American People. May Karma Get his Nazi Ass Soon!
BigmanPigman
(54,146 posts)"Why would you do that?". I guess you won't be doing this again for a while, if ever. Go with your instinct! It keeps me from doing stuff like that, which I am often considering doing but then my instinct tells me "why would you do that, will it matter, will it change anything, will it make me even more pissed off?". I am an emotional person and I KNOW the answer...it WILL make me MORE pissed off!!!!!
Coventina
(28,826 posts)He does not.
Stupid of me. There is no bottom for cult members.
electric_blue68
(24,452 posts)BidenRocks
(2,407 posts)We are the Villagers.
It's only a matter of when.
Coventina
(28,826 posts)But, I get and appreciate your sentiment!
Dave Bowman
(6,068 posts)mntleo2
(2,630 posts)How happy he is about jacking up his healthcare so tRump's greedy $billionaire buddies can buy a bigger yachts and/or jets to hell with any other Americans? the No Kings march and Bernie Sanders speeches are heueueuege and not all of them are progressives.
Is he ecstatic that your dad gets tm make rich men richer? Here is an article about it: https://www.kff.org/affordable-care-act/aca-marketplace-premium-payments-would-more-than-double-on-average-next-year-if-enhanced-premium-tax-credits-expire/
Just sayin' ...
Cat from Seattle
Remball
(4 posts)Supposedly it is funded by private donors, known and anonymous, and by Trump. Supposedly no taxpayer money involved.
Norrrm
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herding cats
(19,868 posts)I've lost people dear to me too. I know how it hurts deep down even though it's for our own good.
I doubt he's suddenly become self aware. They're so deep down that rabbit hole. I had an elderly uber driver from a nearby rural town working in Austin (TX) pick me up a few weeks ago to give me and my daughter ride downtown. Her profile said she was driving because she was paying for her husband's brain cancer treatment. I told her I was sorry her husband was sick. My daughter told her I was also battling cancer and struggling financially to stay alive. I mentioned she might look into Obamacare to see if it might help her. She said it's the ACA, not Obamacare, and Trump was working on a better plan and how he was the best thing to happen to this country in ages. By the time she dropped us off my daughter and I both bolted from the vehicle.
usonian
(21,735 posts)I'll alert you, so you can share.
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Bernardo de La Paz
(59,737 posts)canetoad
(19,685 posts)Takes your reasoned criticism on board.
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Bernardo de La Paz
(59,737 posts)JoseBalow
(8,763 posts)I can tell from some of the pixels, and from seeing quite a few trolls in my time.
Emile
(38,411 posts)FHRRK
(1,233 posts)But at this point, all Trump supporters are bad.
It isnt you that is the problem, unless he is a billionaire, in which case he is still the problem.
usonian
(21,735 posts)
caveat maga
Bread and Circuses
(1,276 posts)Keepthesoulalive
(1,935 posts)And you wanted him to have one too. He is sick with fear, hate and selfishness. I am glad you dont have that burden. For whatever reason we have all had to adjust to new family situations. Your family and friends are here.
usonian
(21,735 posts)You really aren't talking to the person. You're talking to what amounts to a chatbot programmed to respond in a predetermined way. The real person under there no doubt has flaws, but a cult member gives up individuality, so you really are talking to the cult persona, or chatbot, IMO.
Like I said, that does not wash away personal flaws, but those are subjugated, and while they are indeed "improvable", the group mind is in control until the spell is broken. I read a bit on cults, for survival in these times, and a couple of possible escapes are a feeling of betrayal, and also inability to keep holding the contradictions in one's mind that cults demand. I defer to experts, but none of this is easy.
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