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cab67

(3,517 posts)
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 05:02 PM Saturday

Know why I may never forgive the current president?

Last edited Sat Oct 25, 2025, 08:42 PM - Edit history (1)

Our daughter, who we adopted, is of Mexican ancestry. She's in 4th grade, and we're in an area with lots of ICE activity.

We've tried to shelter her from the worst of the news, but she's fully aware of what ICE is, what ICE is doing, and the fact that people who look kind of like her are frequent targets. ICE agents have been seen in parks near her school.

This morning, my phone went off. Amber Alert - missing child. My daughter was next to me when it arrived.

She looked at me with real panic. "Was it ICE?!" she asked. She then ran off crying, worried that ICE might come for her. She wasn't play-panicking, either - she was genuinely terrified.

My daughter shouldn't have to afraid to be herself in the neighborhood. She's afraid unknown adults will come and grab her. No child should experience that.

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Know why I may never forgive the current president? (Original Post) cab67 Saturday OP
As ever, the cruelty is the point...nt Wounded Bear Saturday #1
I am right there with you and your daughter, my dear cab67! CaliforniaPeggy Saturday #2
cab67 my hearts breaks for you and your daughter bronxiteforever Saturday #3
Heartbreaking. I hope that the child that caused the alert was found safe and sound question everything Saturday #4
I'm so sorry. Mblaze Saturday #5
❤️ littlemissmartypants Saturday #6
My suggestion is to get your daughter a US passport FakeNoose Saturday #7
Go with a passport card fujiyamasan Saturday #16
Good suggestion! FakeNoose Saturday #20
She has one. cab67 Saturday #25
Yes, but the other way around. Keep the passport in safe place but have her carry the hi-res copy. . . .nt Bernardo de La Paz Saturday #31
This country is NOT a good country in which to raise a child, IMO. slightlv Saturday #8
tRUMP's murdered many people already wolfie001 Saturday #9
Someone gonna do a Luigi. BradBo Saturday #10
If there's a better definition of terror, I haven't heard it JMCKUSICK Saturday #11
May? Ferrets are Cool Saturday #12
I hate all of them. Prof. Toru Tanaka Saturday #14
This is so freaking wrong. That anxiety could follow her forever. 1WorldHope Saturday #13
I understand. It's just wonderful to wake up and replay Germany in the fucking Dark-Ages. chouchou Saturday #15
Fuck those fucking ICE fuckers. 😡😠🤬 ShazzieB Saturday #17
He is evil beyond words Grim Chieftain Saturday #18
Despise is a very good word and a suitable replacement for "hate". Loathe is also very applicable. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Saturday #32
We don't have to make-up a Monster for Halloween..We have one in the Whitehouse. chouchou Saturday #19
I can't find the words, cab67. democrank Saturday #21
and the most evil part is DBoon Saturday #22
People like him/that are So Evil! electric_blue68 Saturday #26
Please tell her that all of Democratic Underground are happy she's here elleng Saturday #23
That is horrific. This is sheer terror unleashed on AMERICANS. Please give your daughter an extra hug from DU friends. Evolve Dammit Saturday #24
Hug your daughter from me. Duncanpup Saturday #27
i never forgave : AllaN01Bear Saturday #28
Gentle hugs to your daughter, and you. So hideous to feel terrorized by ICE. electric_blue68 Saturday #29
The same terror as it was for B.See Saturday #30
Hugs to you and your daughter. I'm babylonsister Saturday #33
That's a damned shame. No child should be afraid to go to school, play outside, go to the store LoisB Saturday #34
I am stage left Saturday #35
Forgive? Never LittleGirl Saturday #36
I completely understand. Sailingdiver Saturday #37
Hug to you, and your bonus daughter.... electric_blue68 Sunday #39
Made my day Sailingdiver 17 hrs ago #43
That is a feature, not a bug, in Trump's immigration "policy". 11 Bravo Saturday #38
I'm so sorry, cab67 mcar Sunday #40
I will NEVER LilElf70 Sunday #41
Just why the f**k are there even troops in our streets vapor2 Sunday #42

CaliforniaPeggy

(155,499 posts)
2. I am right there with you and your daughter, my dear cab67!
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 05:11 PM
Saturday

For the horrible ICE actions, and for so much more, I will never forgive him.

NEVER.

For you and your precious daughter:

bronxiteforever

(10,873 posts)
3. cab67 my hearts breaks for you and your daughter
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 05:19 PM
Saturday

The current president is an abomination to humanity. I can’t write anything to make you feel better now but sooner rather than later a hard rain is going to fall on the Nazis who did this to the most vulnerable.

FakeNoose

(39,158 posts)
7. My suggestion is to get your daughter a US passport
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 05:48 PM
Saturday

She should carry it (carefully) on her person at all times. You should keep a high-res scanned photocopy of her Passport also.

If the time should ever come that your daughter is confronted or nabbed by ICE, do this: post your daughter's photo on friendly social media, identify her as a US citizen, say that she's born in the US, and her adoptive parents are also US-born citizens. I'm not a lawyer but these are sensible things that anyone can do to protect their loved ones.

Good luck, dear.

fujiyamasan

(807 posts)
16. Go with a passport card
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 06:15 PM
Saturday

And a laminated case that can be attached to a backpack. It’s credit card sized.

Bernardo de La Paz

(59,845 posts)
31. Yes, but the other way around. Keep the passport in safe place but have her carry the hi-res copy. . . .nt
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 07:03 PM
Saturday

slightlv

(6,923 posts)
8. This country is NOT a good country in which to raise a child, IMO.
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 05:53 PM
Saturday

We terrify children with "shooter drills" and now we've got ICE around every stone and corner. And if it's not one of those two, it's the wayward bullet of a gun... trigger pulled by themselves or someone else... or physical and sexual abuse. We've got it all in this country, and don't seem to feel the need to remedy any of it. SMDH.

Your daughter should *not* have to grow up looking over her shoulder all the time. Breaks my heart....

wolfie001

(6,360 posts)
9. tRUMP's murdered many people already
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 05:55 PM
Saturday

By ICE, bombing in the Caribbean, hospital parking lots, vaccine disinfo. People not getting the aid (medical/food) the US used to send. Now the cuts to Medicaid and SNAP. Best of luck to you and your family.

JMCKUSICK

(4,341 posts)
11. If there's a better definition of terror, I haven't heard it
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 05:56 PM
Saturday

and that makes this Terrorism!

1WorldHope

(1,740 posts)
13. This is so freaking wrong. That anxiety could follow her forever.
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 06:00 PM
Saturday

I imagine just going to school terrifies you both. I'm so sad for your family. I'm pleading with the universe that good wins over evil. We the people can not let him win. 💙💙💙💙

chouchou

(2,528 posts)
15. I understand. It's just wonderful to wake up and replay Germany in the fucking Dark-Ages.
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 06:14 PM
Saturday

That piece-of-human-garbage destroys every happiness vibes that's flying around this whole planet.

ShazzieB

(21,872 posts)
17. Fuck those fucking ICE fuckers. 😡😠🤬
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 06:15 PM
Saturday

Sorry for the extreme language, but I can't of any other words strong enough to express what I think of ICE's depredations, desecrations, and despoliations. They are an abomination and an outrage. This should NOT be allowed to continue, but who the hell is going to stop it and how?

Grim Chieftain

(781 posts)
18. He is evil beyond words
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 06:16 PM
Saturday

I am not given to hatred, but I despise him.

I am so sorry for the pain and fear he caused you and your daughter.

Bernardo de La Paz

(59,845 posts)
32. Despise is a very good word and a suitable replacement for "hate". Loathe is also very applicable. . . . nt
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 07:04 PM
Saturday

democrank

(11,887 posts)
21. I can't find the words, cab67.
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 06:23 PM
Saturday

Awful that you and your family have to go through this. Please hug your daughter for me.

DBoon

(24,421 posts)
22. and the most evil part is
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 06:38 PM
Saturday

people like Stephen Miller want you daughter to be afraid and take pleasure in her fear.

Evolve Dammit

(21,308 posts)
24. That is horrific. This is sheer terror unleashed on AMERICANS. Please give your daughter an extra hug from DU friends.
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 06:39 PM
Saturday

B.See

(7,171 posts)
30. The same terror as it was for
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 07:00 PM
Saturday

Jews and other persecuted peoples in Hitler's Nazi Germany. For the elderly, the infirm, families, women, and even children.

Fascists don't care. The terror of others is how they GET OFF.

babylonsister

(172,438 posts)
33. Hugs to you and your daughter. I'm
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 07:09 PM
Saturday

so sorry you're forced to deal with these ICE monsters.

LoisB

(11,923 posts)
34. That's a damned shame. No child should be afraid to go to school, play outside, go to the store
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 07:44 PM
Saturday

...be a child. I effing HATE these goons. I wonder how many of the brown-shirts have 4th grade children? May the angels protect your little one.

LittleGirl

(8,858 posts)
36. Forgive? Never
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 08:03 PM
Saturday

I am a proud grandchild of Italian immigrants and I’m married to a naturalized citizen. The fear keeps me up at night. His skin is brown too. I will never forgive this administration for making racism a reason for assault. It’s unforgivable in a country built by immigrants!

Sailingdiver

(315 posts)
37. I completely understand.
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 09:12 PM
Saturday

My bonus daughter, in fifth grade, is Thai. Her mom is a naturalized citizen and my bonus daughter has derivative citizenship (effective earlier this year before the idiot let geobbels jr in charge).

I am constantly worried about her and what would happen if the terrorists ICE went to their school or pulled her and her mom over at some kind of stop.

Her grandfather (my wife's father) has been very ill lately and they are asking do I think it's safe for them to leave the country if he passes (and be able to return).

I honestly do not know but my initial thought is not without a whole bunch of difficulty. And, is it going to be worth it (I know that sounds crass but I don't mean it to).

I'll never forgive the orange pedo or most of those who voted for him.

She is a ray of sunshine. I try to keep the violence and terroristic actions from her, but it's not easy.

electric_blue68

(24,576 posts)
39. Hug to you, and your bonus daughter....
Sun Oct 26, 2025, 02:37 AM
Sunday

One of my longest time friends spent nearly ?20 yrs in Thailand. Lots of stories in her letters to me of living there.

Sailingdiver

(315 posts)
43. Made my day
Mon Oct 27, 2025, 10:35 PM
17 hrs ago

Bonus daughter had an assignment to write down her thoughts and feelings about Heman Sweatt and not being accepted at UT Law School.

After a lot of discussion and me pulling thoughts out of her we were able to complete her class assignment.

I will say it was very enlightening and we had a good conversation.

We ended the conversation with her calling me her bestie.

Tears of joy.

11 Bravo

(24,222 posts)
38. That is a feature, not a bug, in Trump's immigration "policy".
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 09:29 PM
Saturday

Which makes what your daughter is suffering all the more heart-breaking.
Please give her a big hug and tell her that an old white guy in Virginia is thinking of her.

mcar

(45,427 posts)
40. I'm so sorry, cab67
Sun Oct 26, 2025, 03:49 AM
Sunday

No child should have to experience this trauma.

A friend's daughter is half Iranian (father). She is married to an American citizen from Nicaragua. Friend's 2 beautiful, brown granddaughters attend a Spanish immersion middle school in Philadelphia. The school has been regularly locking down because of ICE outside.

These monsters are terrorizing children.

LilElf70

(1,177 posts)
41. I will NEVER
Sun Oct 26, 2025, 05:17 AM
Sunday

forgive him.

The position of president of this great country was created to lead the people and the country into the future. NOT to destroy and grift and steal from the people. And this is just a small list of the things this man has done.

vapor2

(3,312 posts)
42. Just why the f**k are there even troops in our streets
Sun Oct 26, 2025, 04:56 PM
Sunday

The cruelty and sadism of this regime is endless

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