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LuckyCharms

(21,036 posts)
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 07:57 PM Saturday

How are they going to feel?

I don't know how this is going to end, but it will end. The good guys will be on the right side of history, even if Trump turns this country into a smoking crater. And the way he is moving, like a juggernaut, we may indeed be left with exactly that...a hole in the ground.

This is why we must be strong.

Every soul, whether on the right, or on the left, may be left with a smoking crater, faced with the task of rebuilding.

How are they going to feel when they lose their homes and cannot afford food?

How is the "fuck your feelings" crowd going to reconcile this?

Are they still going to try to own the libs?

How are they going to reconcile the disappearance of their friends and family? He wasn't supposed to go after them.

The lost relationships.

The years of worshiping an immoral man, a cartoon.

All of the MAGA swag in their closets.

Will they just look at it and cry?

More than a decade of in-your-face hate.

Will they see it...while standing in the crater?

Will it hit them all at once, or will it be a gradual realization?

Are we going to forgive them...for what they themselves caused?

Are we going to say "I told you so", or are we going to reconcile?

Will they stick to their guns until they die?

Until they die with their hate?

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How are they going to feel? (Original Post) LuckyCharms Saturday OP
Cults end, and they never end well. usonian Saturday #1
I'll get scorched for saying so... LuckyCharms Saturday #2
What are the precedents? PA? Utah? usonian Saturday #7
It's accelerating too fast. LuckyCharms Saturday #9
He's racing against time, to take control before the "Epstein Event Horizon" usonian Saturday #14
I honestly don't think that will stop him, or his minions. LuckyCharms Saturday #16
That's why they bought into AI and flooded Tree Lady Saturday #34
I quit Facebook in 2017... LuckyCharms Saturday #35
Almost all the stories are fake Tree Lady Saturday #37
There are many people... LuckyCharms Saturday #39
Nope. Ollie Garkie Saturday #30
I guess we'll see. LuckyCharms Saturday #32
Some cult members finally give up. Others double and triple down. Irish_Dem Saturday #3
I see dark times coming, and we must resist. LuckyCharms Saturday #4
Yes many felt it. But we didn't know it would be this bad. Irish_Dem Saturday #8
I couldn't imagine the details... LuckyCharms Saturday #10
What is your gut now? Irish_Dem Saturday #11
It will get very bad. LuckyCharms Saturday #12
Yep. Irish_Dem Saturday #13
Yes - a visceral dread. yellow dahlia Saturday #27
Dad was a history teacher, lots of studies have been done on how empires fall. haele Saturday #36
The breadth and depth of the destruction is worse than I imagined. yellow dahlia Saturday #29
Yep, it was unimaginable. LuckyCharms Saturday #33
Worst nightmare ever. n/t yellow dahlia Saturday #38
Yes. I knew it would be quite bad, but I had no idea it would be this bad. Irish_Dem 21 hrs ago #42
The lower orders never learn. If they were capable of it, Aristus Saturday #5
The country may well be unrecognizable... LuckyCharms Saturday #6
The MAGAs are willing to get their kids killed with gun violence and no vaccines. Irish_Dem Saturday #15
That's right. LuckyCharms Saturday #17
Yes their hatred and violence overrides their innate survival instinct. Irish_Dem Saturday #18
This would be such a beautiful world if it was not for... LuckyCharms Saturday #19
The iconic fight between good and evil is the human condition. Irish_Dem Saturday #20
I keep wondering how... LuckyCharms Saturday #21
Narcissists don't usually kill themselves. Irish_Dem Saturday #22
Well, I think this shutdown was forcibly orchestrated by Trump... LuckyCharms Saturday #23
Yes Trump said he can destroy more of the federal govt and liberal programs with the shut down. Irish_Dem Saturday #24
I too hear that fear. yellow dahlia Saturday #31
For some... 2naSalit Saturday #25
That's why I'm pondering a shotgun Captain Zero Saturday #41
They are all consumed with hatred, racism and greed vapor2 Saturday #26
Theiy only feel greed and hate. I just saw vapor2 post. I'll add racism too. spanone Saturday #28
I don't think the spark is going to be the shooting of an ICE agent Bayard Saturday #40
It's like a bunch of people walking into a gasoline station with matches and lit cigarettes. usonian 6 hrs ago #43

LuckyCharms

(21,036 posts)
2. I'll get scorched for saying so...
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 08:04 PM
Saturday

but I've always believed that this will end with violence.

usonian

(21,896 posts)
7. What are the precedents? PA? Utah?
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 08:12 PM
Saturday

Other than the slain legislators,

If they haven't killed us yet, with all the dehumanizing in their brainwash channels, they will 2A themselves. Again.

A sense if betrayal is one of the few ways that people detatch from cults.

And there's Mussolini, closest parallel I can see to the current fascist outbreak.

LuckyCharms

(21,036 posts)
9. It's accelerating too fast.
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 08:19 PM
Saturday

He's moving fast purposely.

There's going to be a spark. And I think it may happen within a month.

An ICE agent is going to get shot. And that will likely be the spark.

And I draw parallels to Mussolini as well.

Will it end in the same way as Mussolini?

Maybe, but the Italians were different than the current state of the American populace.

Do we have the will to end this?

usonian

(21,896 posts)
14. He's racing against time, to take control before the "Epstein Event Horizon"
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 08:25 PM
Saturday

It will do him in, and many others. Better sooner than later.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220735608
He's not a "victim". He's the inheritor of the Trump/Epstein blackmail operation.

Andrew is the first domino to fall. That is accelerating as well.

Buckle up.

LuckyCharms

(21,036 posts)
16. I honestly don't think that will stop him, or his minions.
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 08:28 PM
Saturday

I think it's too late.

If all that information comes out, will they step down?

I don't think so.

They are like pitbulls chewing on a wasp.

They have come this far and they won't give up.

They'll spin, they'll lie, they'll insist the files were doctored.

Just like they easily convinced people that everything is AI or fake news.

Tree Lady

(12,828 posts)
34. That's why they bought into AI and flooded
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 10:11 PM
Saturday

Social media with it, so they could say that.

LuckyCharms

(21,036 posts)
35. I quit Facebook in 2017...
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 10:13 PM
Saturday

You could see it coming then as well.

Everything was rapidly going sideways when it came to information dissemination.

Tree Lady

(12,828 posts)
37. Almost all the stories are fake
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 10:15 PM
Saturday

I don't believe any of it but you can tell by the comments most do believe it.

LuckyCharms

(21,036 posts)
39. There are many people...
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 10:20 PM
Saturday

that will believe any written text or spoken word they are presented with.

That's what Facebook taught me, and that's why I left.

It's unfortunate to say the least.

Ollie Garkie

(317 posts)
30. Nope.
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 10:07 PM
Saturday

There will be no "spark". No one will shoot an ICE agent. We will continue to just sleepwalk into fascism. Americans are too compliant and apathetic to actually do anything dramatic, even misguidedly dramatic.

Irish_Dem

(76,777 posts)
3. Some cult members finally give up. Others double and triple down.
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 08:06 PM
Saturday

Hard to tell what the MAGAs will do.

LuckyCharms

(21,036 posts)
4. I see dark times coming, and we must resist.
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 08:08 PM
Saturday

I saw it in 2015, while he was running for President.

A horrible feeling of dread, without really knowing why yet.

Irish_Dem

(76,777 posts)
8. Yes many felt it. But we didn't know it would be this bad.
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 08:18 PM
Saturday

We could not even imagine him kidnapping people off the street and sending them to death camps.

Taking a literal wrecking ball to the White House.

Destroying the federal government.
Taking away health care.
Destroying education, science, etc.

Grifting and out right theft on such a huge scale.

Etc etc.

LuckyCharms

(21,036 posts)
10. I couldn't imagine the details...
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 08:21 PM
Saturday

But I felt a deep dread, knowing it would be some ungodly series of events.

LuckyCharms

(21,036 posts)
12. It will get very bad.
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 08:23 PM
Saturday

Worse than we think.

Which means we resist.

We do everything we can to resist.

Irish_Dem

(76,777 posts)
13. Yep.
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 08:24 PM
Saturday

Same as what my gut is telling me.

And the data is there to support it.
The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior.

haele

(14,785 posts)
36. Dad was a history teacher, lots of studies have been done on how empires fall.
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 10:13 PM
Saturday

A lot depends of if enough states can hold together, because otherwise, it's the fall of the Soviet Union in the early 90's .
The Oligarchs are already jostling for position.
Primary difference is that the majority of the US population is still not quite yet a collection of discouraged, fatalistic drunken serfs.
Too many middle class folks that remember decent wages, freedom to move about, and a comfortable life, and they're not going to handle losing those things very well.

yellow dahlia

(3,674 posts)
29. The breadth and depth of the destruction is worse than I imagined.
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 10:06 PM
Saturday

I knew it would be bad, but OY! So much evil! So much corruption! So much crime against the Republic and the people!

Irish_Dem

(76,777 posts)
42. Yes. I knew it would be quite bad, but I had no idea it would be this bad.
Sun Oct 26, 2025, 05:23 AM
21 hrs ago

He is waging war with the world and his own country and people.

Aristus

(71,179 posts)
5. The lower orders never learn. If they were capable of it,
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 08:10 PM
Saturday

they never would have made Trump their entire miserable, pathetic existence in the first place.

LuckyCharms

(21,036 posts)
6. The country may well be unrecognizable...
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 08:11 PM
Saturday

and their live changed irreversibly.

It could smack them right in the face, and they will still deny it.

Irish_Dem

(76,777 posts)
15. The MAGAs are willing to get their kids killed with gun violence and no vaccines.
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 08:26 PM
Saturday

So they are willing to do anything to avoid facing reality.

LuckyCharms

(21,036 posts)
17. That's right.
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 08:33 PM
Saturday

I wish I were smarter. I don't know the answer.

If someone's focused intent is to kill you, they will run through a brick wall to do it, and worry about their injuries later.

LuckyCharms

(21,036 posts)
19. This would be such a beautiful world if it was not for...
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 08:37 PM
Saturday

greed, and egos.

All of this goddamn nonsense going on for a decade.

Irish_Dem

(76,777 posts)
20. The iconic fight between good and evil is the human condition.
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 08:39 PM
Saturday

Yes the GOP has been tormenting, punishing, and torturing us for over a decade.

LuckyCharms

(21,036 posts)
21. I keep wondering how...
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 08:42 PM
Saturday

Mike Johnson is going to keep from killing himself.

I think the Gov't is shut down for good.

And there is fear in his voice.

Irish_Dem

(76,777 posts)
22. Narcissists don't usually kill themselves.
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 08:46 PM
Saturday

Though if painted into a corner they might consider it.

What do you think little Mike is afraid of?

LuckyCharms

(21,036 posts)
23. Well, I think this shutdown was forcibly orchestrated by Trump...
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 08:50 PM
Saturday

with no intention of ever reopening the Government.

Trump is taking this opportunity to go balls to the wall. It's perfect for him.

And I think Mike Johnson was given a decision to make.

He's weak, and now he's stuck.

He's in over his head. He doesn't have the strength to take on Trump.

Irish_Dem

(76,777 posts)
24. Yes Trump said he can destroy more of the federal govt and liberal programs with the shut down.
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 08:56 PM
Saturday

And the destruction will be permanent he stated.

So yes Trump is thrilled.

Well I don't know about Mike.

We can assume he is being bribed well, lots of money and favors behind the scenes.
Perhaps he is fine with a long term shut down.
He gets paid no matter what.
Bribe money pours in.
What does he care?

Like the Supreme Court Justices.

2naSalit

(98,378 posts)
25. For some...
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 09:23 PM
Saturday

Of the preppers, they intend to raid other peoples' caches at gunpoint for food and shelter if that's all they have left. And you know the guns are what they value most because it can be used to force others to do your bidding.

Bayard

(27,520 posts)
40. I don't think the spark is going to be the shooting of an ICE agent
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 10:41 PM
Saturday

I think it will be bloodthirsty ICE agents mowing down a bunch of protestors. Think Kent State x 10. A whole bunch of the populace is going to wake up, and wonder how we got here.

usonian

(21,896 posts)
43. It's like a bunch of people walking into a gasoline station with matches and lit cigarettes.
Sun Oct 26, 2025, 07:57 PM
6 hrs ago

And nobody has a worry.

He's setting it up. Some governors have figured it out.

Only frogs are holding back real trouble.

Love those frogs. The REAL peacemakers.

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