As soon as GHWB dies, the WORST thing will be all of the nice eulogies about him

[MrScorpio]

Now yes, I do give him his props for being part of the "Greatest Generation", where his got his ass shot down into the Pacific Ocean. That shit takes brass knockers and every single fighting man and fighting woman who did their part in Old Double-yuh Double-yuh Two has earned my respect for what they did.

That includes Pappy.

HOWEVER… The man did spend a significant portion of his life serving the Military-Industrial-Congressional Complex AND the Secret Intelligence Police State, BOTH OF WHICH have caused more bloodshed on this planet than any sane person can conceive of.

He was part of the lie that was the Reagan Revolution, which set the stage for America's long term decline over the past thirty years. He hired Lee Atwater to poison this country's political process with racism in order to get elected to his one term. He bungled a minor border conflict between Iraq and Kuwait into a major war, by bastardizing the diplomatic process and setting stage for further American involvement.

I should state, for the record, that his wholly unnecessary and tragically violent invasion of Panama was the single most important incident which radicalized me against the Republicans. He should burn in hell for doing that alone.

But he wasn't done… He also sired a new generation of assholes, one of which matriculated into the White House with outright theft and deceit, fucking us up even further.

So, I'm stating for the record that I will brook NO BULLSHIT about how nice a statesman he was, how he should have had a second term and all that other crap, simply because he's going to be worm food. He was one of the worst people ever to be part of modern American politics.

He should be held up as a lesson about WHAT NOT TO DO, instead of being lionized. But they'll do it anyway, both Democrats and Republicans… AND they should know better.

[brewens]

1. All that and the fact that he was responsible for Barbara crapping out W.

I'll throw up in my mouth a little every time anyone says anything good about him. Just like when St. Reagan died.

[BigDemVoter]

116. Oh I agree. . . .

A more nauseating, vulgar spectacle has never been seen. Ronnie's corpse flying back & forth cross country at god knows what cost with breathless MSM coverage on all channels.

As for the Bush family, their sense of entitlement knows no constraints at all despite the fact that not one of them is exceptional in any way except as an exceptional IDIOT in GWB's case.

Barbara's uterus should have long ago been declared a weapon of mass destruction for having shot out all those nasty individuals. GWB was born an idiot, but he was also a creature formed by the environment in which he was raised. Coddled & spoiled with his parents bailing him out and making excuses for him his entire life--DISGUSTING.

[alfredo]

161. The right hated him, saying he was a Socialist.

[graham4anything]

2. If he dies in the next 3 years

it will mark the beginning of the rejuvinalization to wipe out all the bad feelings in the US toward the Bush's

watch for many cover story pictures of W crying
perhaps he will attempt to give a eulogy and not make it 1/2 way through

every step will be choreographed for maximum effect and ratings will soar for the members of the family.

As members of the exclusive club, and by prior events, all the living presidents will be there

and the man who will benefit most from all of this will be 41's favorite son Jeb.

The script is written.

The interesting thing to watch will be the reaction of the tea party draconians.
While they make the Bush's "appear" normal, what will they be thinking and doing?

Better not let them get out of anyone's sight during the 10-14 days of rememberence that will be.

[Why Syzygy]

100. W.

m'kay, well .. the "tea party" is not a real thing. So, let's call all of them wing bats. I was astonished to run across a page at facebook named something like "Christians against Obama re-election". What a nightmare! There were a couple of photos of Jr. with Iraq vets. All of them had prosthetics. The members of the page "LOVE" him. There was enough insanity on that page to fuel a rocket ship to a neighboring galaxy. It was basically like watching a horror film (and I don't watch those). The Bush era is what caused my total lack of faith in goodness.

[Skittles]

133. CORRECTION

watch for cover story pictures of W *TRYING* to cry, trying to act sad - he is NOTORIOUSLY bad at it

[malaise]

3. It has started already

even here on DU

[L0oniX]

11. So has the alerting ...Get your red hot jury results here folks...

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: Insensitivity and poor taste (extreme or otherwise) are NOT against the TOS. If someone is responsible for a lot of drama and death and misery in their life, it shouldn't be swept under the carpet just because that someone is nearing their end of days. It's one thing to silence right wing bullshit, another to censor people because they're being both truthful and "insensitive." No HIDE VOTE from me.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT and said: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: Since this deals with all the bs and crap and general throw the world to hellishness that GHWB did and not with his personality or bashing grievers, leave.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: WTF? Discuss it or go fuck yourself and quit using the jury system for your panty bind!
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: I don't blame the author for stating his/her opinions.

[MrScorpio]

21. PIEYOW!

Love it!

They should come after me directly… Let's discuss this thing like adults.

I promise, I won't bite.

[L0oniX]

24. ...

[Trailrider1951]

42. LOL, yeah, scorpions don't bite

they sting. deadly....Hon, I'm not feeling sorry for those debating you.

[MrScorpio]

49. Wink-wink

You know me well.

[shintao]

101. They only come after you .............

when one of their friends of the click insults you. That makes your next post automatically in poor taste and banned & they kick you off the thread.

[davidpdx]

108. I think telling people to "go fuck yourself" in jury decisions

should be an automatic week ban no matter what the subject is about. It is absolutely uncalled for and against the TOS.

[L0oniX]

109. O NOES ...another flaw in the jury system.

[davidpdx]

122. I think if we are going to have a jury system, people either take it seriously

or they should not participate. Making jury service an open invitation to insult people is not what it was meant for. I can think of at least a half dozen better ways to tell someone they are being ridiculous besides hurling fowl language.

I'm not against fowl language in general and I am sure not one to claim I don't swear.

[RevStPatrick]

163. Fowl Language!!! Bwaaa haaa!!!!

I have told numerous people to fuck off while on jury duty.
Almost every single one of them wasted my time to ramp up whatever petty squabble they had with another poster. In fact, I got so fucking sick of it, that I chose to opt out of jury duty, at least for a while. 9 out 10 juries I was on were just as stupid as this alert, and people who alert for stupid reasons SHOULD fuck off!

How do you like them apples?

Oh... and for the record... when GHWB dies I will say and type the following:

"My condolences to his family. That's all I'm gonna say about that."

He was one of the worst human beings ever, and deserves no better than that.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

71. Ugh. I remember Reagan.

Everyone was trying to change history to create a revised persona after he died.

The media, the internet boards I was active on, and every person I came into contact with. I was polite but I went into seclusion until the lunacy dimmed.

I was hoping it would be different here. We would all be realistic and adult about matters.

[Ikonoklast]

4. He fucked most of us, but good, just like Reagan.

But he was soooo genteel while doing it, so that makes it all good.

And we invaded Iraq on behalf of a scared shitless Saudi Arabia and and the fucking Kuwaitis who actually were stealing Iraqi oil through slant-drilling into the huge Rumaila Field inside of Iraqi territory.

[Whisp]

62. and the big lie about iraqi's killing incubator babies.

I was feeling sorry for Senior for a few minutes before I recalled this, and other things pointed out in this thread.

He was a nasty piece of shit and the world will be better off with one less predator shit stain to occupy it.

[calimary]

165. And he unleashed the full power of lee atwater, and the Willie Horton ads, and all this other shit

that helped racists come proudly out of the closet and into politics. We're STILL suffering under the effects of that. kkkarl rove and george junior learned their dirty tricks from lee atwater's knee. atwater was such bad news, and did such awful things that he felt compelled to call Michael Dukakis to his deathbed to apologize for fucking him over - shortly before he died of cancer.

HORRIBLE man. HORRIBLE excuse for a human being. And ghwb brought him into the foregrounds and near sainthood with the GOP. They practically worshipped that bastard.

[tularetom]

5. I don't want him to die

Not until he has had a chance to see the full effect of his idiot son's policies on the US economy and heard Jr. universally acclaimed as the worst president ever.

[jmowreader]

13. He'd have to become immortal to do that

The reality is, he IS going to die and since he believes there is a hell, he is going to go there for all the shit he pulled.

[graham4anything]

131. I personally would like him to be alive when Hillary kicks Jeb's ass in 2016 but good

remember when the Bush's made a big deal about the celebration of Paul Wellstones life
and it sabatoged the followup specialelection for the seat of Mondale's

of course nobody ever came up with a reason for that helicopter either

[kimbutgar]

6. I know this sounds awful but I'll get a day off when he dies

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George HW was not as bad as his son. But he was a heartbeat away from being our president earlier when Reagan was shot. It was always suspicious to me as the hinkleys were bush family friends. And supposedly he was in Dallas the day JFK was shot. I would love to hear his death bed confession. To be a fly on the wall, if only.

[Awknid]

7. There are several confessions

I wish we would hear. Wasn't he in DC at the Ritz luncheon meeting with the Saudis on 9/11 too?

[grasswire]

9. he was with the bin Laden family

It was a Carlyle Group event, IIRC.

[madamesilverspurs]

8. He was less brazen than his son(s).

But make no mistake, their horribleness was learned at his knee.

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[alp227]

64. remember this awkward moment at the Gerald Ford funeral?

[Why Syzygy]

106. mygawd!

I'm a poker player and I can tell you, that was a TELL as big as Texas!

[kath]

136. Whoa! That is some weird shit...

Don't think I'd seen that before.

[leveymg]

159. Unedited version: "'Deluded gunman', giggle. Which deluded gunman? There were at least 3 of us."

[geardaddy]

160. He was worse than his son. n/t

[L0oniX]

10. Hey ...anyone have that video of him barfing at a dinner in China?

Read My Lips and kiss my (_*_)

[MannyGoldstein]

39. Japan

I'm sure he just was doing an alpha male thing.

[madamesilverspurs]

12. Concur absolutely.

My thread here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022075649


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[Myrina]

14. I personally hope he hangs around awhile

... I've always thought that time before dying, when someone is in and out of consciousness/fever state, is the real purgatory - the accounting for one's sins & being visited by the ghosts of those you've wronged.

Considering his time in the CIA, Carlyle, and I'm sure other shit most of us can't even imagine, he ought to stew for a couple months before he's released from this life.

[grasswire]

15. isn't there a backstory about his WW2 service -- abandoning the plane?

Didn't he bail out, leaving his crew to crash?

[bluestateguy]

51. I'm not going to attack somebody's decorated war service

That's Swift Boat shit and it's wrong. Period.

[Spryguy]

86. Fuck that

If your military service was a lie, I'll Swift Boat you all fucking day!

Even if it wasn't, if you are a Rethuglican I probably will anyway

[kath]

137. It's not "Swift boat shit" if it's the frickin' truth.

[MrSlayer]

16. Agreed. This is not a quality person.

War criminal, mass murderer, villain of the MIC, only person alive that doesn't know where he was when JFK was assassinated and so on.

Because he seems sane compared to the utterly insane Republicans of today does not mean he is a good guy. He's worse than Reagan and Chimpy because he wasn't a puppet, he was a puppet master.

[rwsanders]

103. Glad someone said it.

[Brigid]

17. Righteous rant, Mr. Scorpio.

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As a certain English bard once said, "The evil that men do lives after them, the good is oft interred with their bones." In other words, the damage GHWB did will last far longer than the good.

[ananda]

18. I know.

I didn't think the adulation of Unca Ronnie would ever end.

[NightWatcher]

19. what's with all the bullshit pleasantries? He started TWO WARS

The war in Iraq was planned before 9/11.

GHWB was in bed with the Saudis and was brunching with them and other bin Laden's when the planes hit. He then let them leave the country while all other planes were grounded.

He dreamed of a New World Order and had the Patriot Act penned before 9/11 happened and was just waiting to have it voted on and passed just days after the fact while detractors in Congress and the media were sent Anthrax to silence their dissent.

He was behind a sick Reagan planning Iran Contra, and the hostage takings that lead to Carter's one term.

He ran the CIA and invaded how many small countries and installed "friendly juntas"

He was in Dallas when JFK was shot but claimed he couldn't remember where he was on that day

And many more....

Just because he's old and reminds some of their grand pappy is no reason to not dance when he's shuffled off this mortal coil into the hands of a demon (if only Hell exists)

[Why Syzygy]

110. AMEN!

You nailed it. Thank you!

[MrScorpio]

22. Welcome to DU!

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Yes, he was that bad and even WORSE than what I wrote.

I was working in the Pentagon at the time and saw his war crimes and crimes against humanity UP CLOSE.

Obviously, you don't share my world views, you don't share my experiences either.

He was a bad man… I have no qualms about stating that.

[L0oniX]

72. House special pizza with jalapenos delivered.

[MrScorpio]

73. Five posts

Slacking off, I see.

[L0oniX]

76. MIRT has devolved into a bunch of lazy drunken sloths.

[Ikonoklast]

85. And those are the good ones!

J/K, guys.

[L0oniX]

91. Here's a pic of them at work...

[uppityperson]

126. Perfect, thank you. I resemble that picture

[rhett o rick]

23. Short and sweet. I hope he lives long enough to see his son frog marched to prison.

Then he can rot in hell.

[montanacowboy]

25. Thank You MrScorpio

I could not have said it better. I have been dreading the news that he has passed from this world, dreading what will come

GHWB is a loathsome person and I will always to this day believe why he was in Dallas the day JFK was killed

I will have NOTHING kind or good to say about him except good riddance

[underthematrix]

26. Sorry but this is in very very poor taste.

You don't have to like his policies to respect him as a former President of the United States. This type of thing is beneath us.

[MrScorpio]

30. In case you haven't noticed… He's still amongst the living

Just because he's fading away, I choose to NOT forget his many innocent victims.

The man has blood on his hands.

NONE of us should gloss over that.

[underthematrix]

113. My first clue that he was a bad actor was the fact he was the VP of a man

who clearly had alzheimer's, e.g. Ronald Reagan. My second clue was this man was selected as Reagan's VP even though he had been the director of the CIA - not good on so many levels. My third clue was a 60 minutes special in the eighties with an Iranian middleman who was the go between gun supplier for the US and the Iran Contra. My fourth clue - some journalists are also CIA agents. When I watch the news, I find it so strange because most of it is propaganda made to look like facts. We are definitely living in the Matrix.

[DollarBillHines]

41. Oh, please....

Do you think that old bastard would give a flying fuck about your welfare?

Do you think that he and PopEye would grieve if your entire family was wiped out (unless there was some economic-political gain to be had)?

No way.

Fuck that sorry old man, I wish he had never lived.

BTW, I was involved in the planning of the invasion of Panama. The first strike killed 100,000 innocents in El Chollo, one of the worst slums in the world.

Just to deny Noriega safe haven in a place from which we could never extract him.

GHWB signed off on it, knowing full well the cost in innocent human lives.

Fuck the old vulture.

Given a chance, I would gladly piss on his grave.

"This type of thing is beneath us"?

Go read October Surprise by Barbara Honnegger. Hell, just read the last few pages of what happened to the people involved.

Our World would have been a much finer place without the Walkers and the Bushes.
DBH

[MrScorpio]

46. Bingo!

That invasion horrified me, and I was just a paper pusher in the Pentagon at the time.

I don't know what I would have done if I had seen that wholesale slaughter of innocents first hand.

From that point on, I vowed to never forgive him for what he did.

[DollarBillHines]

55. Wow!

Check your PM.

You and I are on the same wavelength/timeframe.

With Redstone dead, there are few of us who were there.

Colin took it to his grave.

I will, too, but I will get it out there.

[rl6214]

138. Why are official reports of deaths at 3,500?

[Gidney N Cloyd]

54. Not calling out wrongful behavior and sticking to my position is beneath me.

[MotherPetrie]

82. If he's not worth respect as a human being he ain't worth respect as an ex-Pres

Oh, and he cheated on his wife for many years.

[heaven05]

171. awww

[arcane1]

27. His occupation of Saudi soil during the Gulf War was Bin Laden's #1 complaint

It literally resulted in 9/11

[JustAnotherGen]

28. +1

[No Vested Interest]

29. Eulogizers? I believe one will be

Bill Clinton, who will tell the world how well he and GHWB worked together against natural disasters. (I forget which ones - maybe a tsunami and/or maybe hunger in Africa).

[MrScorpio]

31. I'm expecting that

It's a curse of the office.

[allinthegame]

32. Shameful

That people are being so cold and ugly about a man who has devoted his life to public service.
Not in love with his policies but respect his life.

[MrScorpio]

35. Are you that nice to ALL the war criminals? nt

[DollarBillHines]

44. "devoted his lifew to public service"?

By that, do you mean "fucking the world"?

Your post is - without doubt - the most inane thing I have ever read.

Where do you get that shit?

[L0oniX]

78. Respect this...

[Gregorian]

98. A-men!

[idwiyo]

151. +1

[Why Syzygy]

112. Stick around ..

your view of "shameful" may change. You're just not seasoned yet.

[Dyedinthewoolliberal]

120. Say what?

An old money son of an old money war profiteer who did public service like a fox guards a hen house.

[uppityperson]

127. Public service? Seriously? How about lining his and his buddies coffers? "devoted his life to public

service"?

[vaberella]

130. I'm waiting for you to be banned immediately! n/t

[CaliforniaPeggy]

132. He is gone. Thank goodness. n/t

[CJCRANE]

156. He's a repeat disruptor who always uses a similar username...

in the format of letters/numbers/letters.

His first post is usually innocuous but he obviously couldn't restrain himself this time.

I always alert on his first post (or email the MIRT) if I spot him in the new users section.

[benld74]

33. Cmon folk, ya gotta admit, the whole Bush Family, starting with Prescot,,

was either crooked, sneaky, or what ever you want to call them.

But I for one CANNOT say anything good abut the man. Nor the family. Sorry.

[Hotler]

34. Poppy invaded Panama because...

Noriega wanted a bigger piece of the pie from the CIA's cocaine trafficking into the US during Iran-contra. remember that crack cocaine was unheard of until the CIA showed the Crips/Bloods how to make it.

[solara]

36. I am totally with you

Hear! Hear! and thanks for posting in such a timely manner

K&R

[MrScorpio]

37. Timely, indeed

After he's gone, I won't speak of him.

[solara]

148. Exactly!!!

(edited to remove a mistake)

[Archae]

38. I'm still pissed off at Bush elder for what he said about atheists.

He said that we "aren't patriotic."

[DavidDvorkin]

43. He said that we aren't really citizens

Because this is one nation under god.

[HooptieWagon]

40. For all his faults...

He wasn't as bad as his Nazi-sympathizer father and neo-fascist son.

[DollarBillHines]

45. Oh, yes he was...

He was just a lot slicker and stayed under the radar.

Actually, he was worse.

[Gidney N Cloyd]

59. Oh, Hell yeah.

[vanlassie]

47. Or his cold ass wife.

[MrScorpio]

50. …And her "beautiful mind" nt

[HooptieWagon]

56. Yeah, a pretty slimey family.

I'm not going to shed any tears.

Good god, I hope the Bush name remains toxic long enough for Jeb not to run, although there's more on the way. They're all fucking fascists.

[Lasher]

48. I wanted to puke at all the shit when Saint Ronnie died.

But I don't think it's good to speak ill of the recently dead, so I bit my tongue as best I could.

[ReRe]

52. Yeah, here it comes...

K&R

...us oldies know what's going to happen. And the media will lick it right up. It will be like the POPE died. These young whipper-snappers think we're mean and cruel. But he was the one that did some pretty mean and cruel things. What was that law that GHWB signed concerning the CIA that Jr or Cheney broke? I'm having a serious senior moment and can't remember exactly what it was... Anyway, whatever the law it was, Jr got away with breaking it. Somebody help me out...

[RKP5637]

60. One can be sure that MSM is counting up the $$$$'s they will make off of the entire affair. Can't

help you with the senior moment, I have my share of my own these days!!!

[ReRe]

70. Yeah, he'll lay in the Rotunda...

...the whole nine yards. Memorial service will probably be in the National Cathedral. Not to worry about my senior moment. I'll probably remember it in a while and come back and post it, unless someone beats me to it. And I hope they do, so I'll stop beating myself up for not being able to remember.

[RKP5637]

79. LOL!!! Sometimes I rush up to the 2nd floor, get there and do a DUH moment, now

why am I here!!!

[Maynar]

111. Man, I hate

when that happens!

[RKP5637]

114. Yeah, even my cat doesn't follow me anymore, like I've got better things to do

daddy than follow you in circles!!!

[ReRe]

115. You are me and I am you :-)

We are the walrus...

[RKP5637]

118. Bring back the 60's !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[southernyankeebelle]

53. The only good thing about GH is he isn't GW. He didn't embarrass the US when he

was overseas. He didn't have a shoe thrown at him.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

166. Puking on the Japanese Prime Minister is fairly embarrassing

But yes, I see your point.

[southernyankeebelle]

172. He did say he was sorry. You gotta give the guy a break after all he was a senior

citizen and the trip might have been to much. At least he knows his manners unlike his son who acted like a cowboy when he went overseas and he managed to have shoes thrown at him. No other president had that honor. LOL

[RKP5637]

57. Probably they are updating the week long Reagan script as a foundation

with global name changes. n/t

[mythology]

58. I disagree

The worst thing will be having his idiot kid back in the public eye. No doubt even giving a eulogy in spite of being a horrid public speaker.

[Gore1FL]

61. If the worst thing that happens

is people say nice things about someone I never met, I'll consider it a good day.

[Steele1762]

63. wow

Whether you agree politically with a person or not, never wish death. Makes you no better than WBC

[MrScorpio]

65. When you point out the exact sentence where I wished him dead, then you'd have a point

Hoping that his war criminal ass boils in hell AFTER the fact doesn't count.

[Cleita]

66. I'm dreading the state funeral. Remember when they buried St. Ronnie?

Yuck! Although it might be fun to compare Bab's public show of mourning to Nancy barely restraining from throwing herself on the coffin. I always got the impression that Babs really didn't like him.

[MrScorpio]

67. Don't remind me. nt

[SugarShack]

68. I read here on DU he's a pedophile connected to the Franklin Cover Up. read or heard about it?

[MrScorpio]

69. No. That one escaped me

But I did hear about the 100,000 Panamanians in mass graves that he's responsible for.

[Va Lefty]

74. The only thing repukes like more than restricting Women's Right's is...

rewriting history

[MrScorpio]

77. Damn Skippy nt

[Skittles]

75. I came to detest Bush II so much

I feel complete indifference for Bush I

[MrScorpio]

83. You should have saw me back then

I'll let you in on a little secret, I was so vocal about that asshole back then, that they had me investigated.

They never found anything on me because I wasn't a threat and was just blowing off steam. I got this from someone who knows some people and they told her that I was being looked at. So word got around in certain circles.

The assholes didn't even try to hide the fact that they were following me around. I guess that they felt that it was enough for me to see them follow me and that would intimidate me.

Still nothing came out of it, but to this day I wonder what was in my file.

[rl6214]

139. Cool story brah

[MrScorpio]

140. When you realize how many domestic investigative services that the government operates…

You'll realize that something like that is par for the course. This was way before the DHS and Patriot Act, twenty years ago, when none of the agencies cooperated.

To this day, I don't know if the guy who walked up to me, took my picture and followed me around was either Secret Service, FBI or AFOSI. The point obviously was to let me know that I was being watched.

I'm not making any of this shit up. I was working in the Pentagon at the time. Needless to say, word about my mouthiness must have gotten around. It was a threat assessment investigation. However, nothing else came out of it.

When I was awarded a Top Secret/SCI security clearance later on, I figured that whatever they thought they had on me was complete bullshit.

[uppityperson]

129. babybush just rode on papa's coat tails. babybush was an idiot, papa was evil.

concerned with money and power and more money and more power and to hell with everyone not in his cabal.

[MotherPetrie]

80. K&R He's an evil man. At least Feds'll get the day off for his funeral when he kicks the bucket

[Flatpicker]

81. I didn't

Like Bush I or II.

Nor Babs and Laura.

I'm hoping that the Political line ends with Bush II.

[DonCoquixote]

84. Here is a question that needs answering

Since Bill Clinton's health is not all that good..if he dies,will we do eulogies, critiques, or both?

[MrScorpio]

87. I'm sure that we will

Opinionated bunch of assholes, we are.

[NightWatcher]

88. Pray for George HW Bush

Pray for George H W Bush as he is not in my death pool. Thatcher however.... @DougStanhope

[nightscanner59]

89. I'll remember the 1000 points of light...

Because I could see all 1000 of them on a clear night from the cardboard box I slept in. GHB had eluded to the idea those points of light would help me somehow. They helped me get denied for food stamps, housing vouchers or other assistance BECAUSE I was a full time college student.

[MrScorpio]

94. He needed more money for his war machine

Another volunteerism scam, care of the Republicans

[Purveyor]

90. Of course the FR types will also 'tap dance' on the grave of Jimmy Carter/Bill Clinton in the same

fashion when their day is drawn near.

Have fun...but I think it diminishes this forum.

You are now on my ignore list. 1 of 1.

[MrScorpio]

92. Jesus loves ya, baby! nt

[L0oniX]

97. ...

[URL=http://www.smileyvault.com/][IMG][/IMG][/URL]

[Why Syzygy]

93. He is a monster

dead or alive. One of my favorite pages at facebook has posted a "Get Well" card for 'us' to sign. They asked respectfully for us to leave politics out of it. So I did. Nothing to say.

You forgot his 'service' to the CIA. And his Skull and Bones mastery. ETC. The man was trained as a mobster at his daddy's knee.

And without photos of his shoot down, there can always be speculation that it is bogus.

[MrScorpio]

95. I was being nice

If you were in a room with me, I'd really tell you how I feel about him

[Why Syzygy]

117. That's what I thought ;) . nt

[FailureToCommunicate]

96. Poppy was pretty awful all right, but he did do a couple of good things as Prez

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Well, maybe just one:

[Old and In the Way]

99. Signed in to rec this thread.

When he dies, l hope Poppy and JFK meet on some, extraordinary physical plane - in a grand arena with their deceased peers, standing in judgement, so they can discuss the following unanswered questions:

(1) Each guy's definition of heroism and their crewmember's recollection of events (remember - no lying and no bearijg false witness...MSM take note).

(2) Public Service vs. Private Service. I know all about how Joe Kennedy made millions smuggling reefer and alcohol to a society that did both. A progressive society. Here's a question: How much money did JFK make in public life...how much did George Bush make? Any guesses? Do we know? I know this - JFK wasn't caught in any quid pro quo for direct personal gain....how about George?

(3) 11/23/63. Is it at all interestjng to plot the trajectories of the House of Kennedy to the House of Bush? Where is the intersection? Please include economic analysis of the fortunes of both houses....I'm pretty sure my middle-class fortunes follows with the Kennedys (inrelative terms,of course)Whatta..hey poliscientists....plot all 3 over the past 100 years!

Sorry, won't give a shit when this guy dies. This guy drove significant economic policy that benefited himself directly. Strategic dependence on ME oil. He ran Reagan's energy policy. There was too much money to be made....sorry America....Carter was right.

[tiredtoo]

102. trying to copy a link here, works. check it out !

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=507407185959889&set=a.264248670275743.69392.259536274080316&type=1&relevant_count=1&ref=nf

[MrScorpio]

105. Here you go

[heaven05]

173. he

looks like some kind of reptile. disgusting.

[shintao]

104. So why shouldn't the truth be told?

I think a funeral should be a perfect time when people come together and tell the good and the bad about people. This might make the living think a little more about their actions before they die.

[davidpdx]

107. I certainly disagreed with him on most of his policies

There were a few I did agree with him on. Compared to his son, his term in office was much less damaging. I missed voting in that election by about 8 months, so I had to wait for the 92' election.

In terms of when he dies, I'm not going to celebrate nor morn.

I can list about half a dozen people who I will celebrate when they die, some of them are going to be pretty obvious.

GW Bush
Dick Cheney
Anthony Scalia
Karl Rove

and that's just the start...

[Dyedinthewoolliberal]

119. My uncle Bob

was a navigator in WW2 and flew many missions over Germany. He always said the story of GHWB bailing out was more like he ran from the situation and left everyone in the lurch. Who knows? But I agree, someone will probably thank him for saving us from Noriega in Panama when the time comes......

[Thekaspervote]

121. It's easy don't watch.. Don't listen!!!why would you anyway

[burrowowl]

123. Which will make me puke

he was behind Iran-Contra leaving 200,000 to 250,000 Guatemalan Indians dead and a Mayknoll priest being medicine to a remote village.

[Solly Mack]

124. K&R

[uppityperson]

125. Thank you, agreed. I am not going to gravedance but good lord he is responsible for SO much bs.

[graham4anything]

134. I also remember when 41 gave the eulogy at Ford's funeral...I almost choked on my food

out of the blue, unprovoked, he started talking about how honorable Ford was in relationship to the Warren Commission looking into the JFK killing.

It was as if he was sending out a coded message and whitewashing again everything.

But then 41 looked like a bum that fateful day in 63 didn't he?
Ironic looking for a man that was kind of stylish in his spy days.(some could say an American Bond almost).
But that one day in 63 he sure did look like a bum, didn't he.(or was I just smoking grassy knolls that day?)

wink wink

[Blue_In_AK]

135. As far as I'm concerned,

the whole family has been a scourge for almost a century now. I won't dance on GHWB's grave, but I won't miss him.

[steve2470]

141. "He bungled a minor border conflict between Iraq and Kuwait"

Not trying to cause trouble, but could you please expand on this ? I'm unaware of the details. Thank you kindly Mr. Scorpio

eta: Does this link explain it all satisfactorily ?

[MrScorpio]

142. Yep, when you go down to the April Glaspie part, that's when it gets REALLY interesting

By the way, that slant drilling equipment that the Kuwaitis used came from Halliburton.

How's that for your post-war BFEE-Secret Government conspiracies?


Edit: You won't read this on Wiki, but GHWB goaded Saddam into staying in Kuwait so he could have his war. This was after Margaret Thatcher chided Bush into going to war after he showed no interest in having one in the first place. After Bush decided that the invasion was a great opportunity to make his bones, give the US increased leverage over the Saudis and Kuwaitis and help the US establish a major presence in the ME that we've never had before, the Gulf War was going to be an inevitability, as Bush saw to it.

Also, look up "the Highway of Death" sometime. That should chill your blood.

[steve2470]

143. ok got an off the wall question...

If you rate humans on zero to 100 scale, with Hitler getting a zero and "some mythical person" getting a 100, how would you rate him ? I'm sure it's well below 50

Thanks for the info too.

[MrScorpio]

144. I'll give Bush a 15 nt

[steve2470]

145. fair enough, thanks ! nt

[hobbit709]

146. It can't be any worse than the dog and pony show when Raygun died.

[barbtries]

147. i recommend

keeping a healthy distance from all corporate media when he passes away. that's what i do. did reagan and nixon have funerals? hah, i can't recall...

[idwiyo]

149. K&R I wish he would have spent at least a few days in jail for all the crimes he committed

against the people in his own country and various countries abroad.

[lonestarnot]

150. I will not be listening to that crap and the beautiful minder howl.

[corkhead]

152. the DU servers are going to melt the day that dick Cheney follows him to hell.

[Rex]

153. He was pure evil, just like all the BFEE.

I will be spitting on his grave, virtually, when the time comes.

[Puzzledtraveller]

154. Applauding death is so progressive!!

[K8-EEE]

155. Meh who cares -- just glad none of them kicked during the election

It did occur to me that any Bush or Cheney type death would be a gift to Romney since media would go into GOP schmooze mode.....

[samsingh]

157. george senior has done a lot of horrible things that i feel

have led to alot of deaths. Iran-Contra to begin with

[diane in sf]

158. We here at DU can do a fact-based review of GHWB's career.

[Jim Warren]

162. As Eugene McCarthy once said

There should be a stipulation in US law that no former CIA director should ever be allowed to run for president.

[graham4anything]

176. or general.

[Godot51]

164. Well he's already got an aircraft carrier named after him.

Pretty good for a man whose whole war experience was jumping out of a burning plane abandoning his crew.

[Faygo Kid]

167. No fan here. But he looks pretty good compared to today's GOP.

It looks like he's a goner. I don't like the man or his family, but I respect the office. Still.

[Gman]

168. He's also the only person I know of that doesn't know exactly where he was on Nov 22, 1963

He's always been vague about it, but he had driven to Dallas from Houston and was supposed to be on his way back to Houston when JFK was killed.

[Swede Atlanta]

169. He will not be missed.....

His entire career was nothing but the pursuit of wealth and power. He could care less about you or I and I could care less about him either. He is/was a despicable character and sired demon spawn.

My marking of his passing will be more muted than the big party we threw when Reagan finally croaked. There were probably 50 people at that party, liquor flowing, party hats and horns and festivity.

The next big celebration will be when some of GWB's crew finally start meeting their maker and shitting their pants because they thought all the hating and killing and stealing was part of God's plan.

[heaven05]

170. I agree

I second this emotion I hope I'm around for the croaking of jr. and cheney, rumsfeld ect. Yeah rice is in there also. These crooks are responsible for more national and international grief and misery than any modern american leaders. They are shameful, evil people.

[man4allcats]

174. And when that happens or even before

I recommend this book. The book is Family of Secrets by Russ Baker. I will provide an Amazon Link though many of you may rather shop elsewhere. The link is http://www.amazon.com/Family-Secrets-Dynasty-Powerful-Influence/dp/B002T45028/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1356656312&sr=1-1&keywords=family+of+secrets. GHWB was a butthole!