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MarineCombatEngineer

(17,071 posts)
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 12:06 AM Nov 10

To one and all,

I apologize if I sound somewhat pissed off tonight about the caving of certain Dems on the CR, I'm getting a wee bit drunk, something I haven't done in decades.
I'm pissed off beyond belief at these Sen. for screwing us even though we had, and I mean, had, the momentum going into the mid terms and these Dem. Sen. just threw it all away.

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To one and all, (Original Post) MarineCombatEngineer Nov 10 OP
We'll have to disagree on the momentum. ACA failure applegrove Nov 10 #1
And they will KNOW who did it to them. vanlassie Nov 10 #2
This shut down let the cats out of multiple bags. applegrove Nov 10 #14
All they have to do is go on tv and say it is the fault of Democrats. travelingthrulife Nov 10 #32
A Bipartizan coalition. quakerboy Nov 10 #21
And 45% of ACA customers who are Republican will blame Democrats for kicking their subsidies down the road to perdition. usonian Nov 10 #8
No need for apologies luv2fly Nov 10 #3
Don't apologize Egwinsi Nov 10 #4
LOL. MarineCombatEngineer Nov 10 #6
Navy vet here.. Permanut Nov 10 #26
We're all feeling 🔩🔩🔩 Bread and Circuses Nov 10 #5
I think once you sober up, you'll see it differently. Sogo Nov 10 #7
Pretty much where I am, though still disappointing. Still think we have decent chance on ACA subsidies. Silent Type Nov 10 #9
hmmm markie Nov 10 #29
Depends on where you live JustAnotherGen Nov 10 #27
no one has been fed yet, and plenty of people are cold. rampartd Nov 10 #30
No THANKSgiving for me and no MERRY Christmas either!!!! BigmanPigman Nov 10 #10
Here you go buddy Eko Nov 10 #11
You have nothing to apologize for FoxNewsSucks Nov 10 #12
They seem to be hush hush right now SunImp Nov 10 #13
We know that not renewing the subsidies will kill 50,000 people per year. gab13by13 Nov 10 #15
I crash out too angrychair Nov 10 #16
I'm with you RainCaster Nov 10 #17
10 cowarding traitors flying-skeleton Nov 10 #18
Anger ms.pamela Nov 10 #19
Don't apologize fujiyamasan Nov 10 #20
Why are you apologizing? vercetti2021 Nov 10 #22
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 10 #23
Dafuq? JoseBalow Nov 10 #24
No apology necessary orangecrush Nov 10 #25
You have no need to apologize. Irish_Dem Nov 10 #28
I am 100% with you, minus the alcohol. Did smoke more yesterday night - pure escapism for me. lark Nov 10 #31

applegrove

(129,387 posts)
1. We'll have to disagree on the momentum. ACA failure
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 12:09 AM
Nov 10

will destroy the 45% of ACA customers who are Republican.

applegrove

(129,387 posts)
14. This shut down let the cats out of multiple bags.
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 12:29 AM
Nov 10

Republicans will know who helped and who doubled down on punishing Americans for existing and not being rich.

usonian

(22,663 posts)
8. And 45% of ACA customers who are Republican will blame Democrats for kicking their subsidies down the road to perdition.
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 12:18 AM
Nov 10

"They could have saved it, but they didn't"

I'll bet on it.

luv2fly

(2,580 posts)
3. No need for apologies
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 12:11 AM
Nov 10

A lot of us are pissed off, well... except for the "moderate" apologists that is.

Egwinsi

(67 posts)
4. Don't apologize
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 12:11 AM
Nov 10

Many Ds, me included, are rightfully pissed we wasted that momentum just to end up in a worse spot than before. But, happy birthday to the Marine Corps. Thank you for keeping Crayola in business

Sogo

(6,869 posts)
7. I think once you sober up, you'll see it differently.
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 12:14 AM
Nov 10

The withholding of SNAP benefits was at a crisis point. And air travel is a nightmare right now, just prior to the busiest travel holiday of the year.

How would you like to be facing winter weather and have nothing to eat or to feed your family? Something had to be done for 42 million Americans, 40% of which are children.


The healthcare fight will continue, and Republicans know they are still on the hook for it.

Silent Type

(12,117 posts)
9. Pretty much where I am, though still disappointing. Still think we have decent chance on ACA subsidies.
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 12:20 AM
Nov 10

markie

(23,767 posts)
29. hmmm
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 05:46 AM
Nov 10

I don't know, republicans hate the ACA (only because it is 'ObamaCare') so much, the hate supersedes any concern they may have for people or healthcare

JustAnotherGen

(37,407 posts)
27. Depends on where you live
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 05:26 AM
Nov 10

New Jerseyans wouldn't have starved.

But we have a sane state house in Trenton.

I hope those state's where the turn coats are don't get one lick of snow this winter. Heaven forbid rich folks in flat states can't fly to Vermont to ski this winter.

rampartd

(3,167 posts)
30. no one has been fed yet, and plenty of people are cold.
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 06:41 AM
Nov 10

the house still has to approve this, and that gets tricky because of epstein.

BigmanPigman

(54,401 posts)
10. No THANKSgiving for me and no MERRY Christmas either!!!!
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 12:21 AM
Nov 10

I decided to skip Thanksgiving again since I am definitely NOT" thankful" and I will not be "merry" at Christmastime. I am not a hypocrite and it takes too much out of me to "act" happy. I'm pooped! Over 30 protests, fighting and calling reps, etc and I am out of energy. Congrats MAGA, you wiped me out in every way possible.

I hope when I die I can somehow come back and get revenge (I mean it!).

FoxNewsSucks

(11,468 posts)
12. You have nothing to apologize for
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 12:26 AM
Nov 10

Those who aren't pissed off are the ones who should be apologizing. Along with the suckups who enable the appeasers.

SunImp

(2,592 posts)
13. They seem to be hush hush right now
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 12:29 AM
Nov 10

Earlier though there was the typical cope article essentially justifying the actions of the Dems who voted to end the shutdown. Many of them hid there

gab13by13

(30,735 posts)
15. We know that not renewing the subsidies will kill 50,000 people per year.
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 12:30 AM
Nov 10

With the gutting of Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, VA, etc. many millions more will die.

I am betting that Project 2025 wants to kill unwashed Americans so I have little faith that Magats will restore the subsidies, all they are required to do is negotiate.

The billionaires expect AI to replace unwashed Americans, they want our herd to be culled. When millions of us die there will be more food available for who is left.

angrychair

(11,549 posts)
16. I crash out too
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 02:07 AM
Nov 10

Probably not the argument I think it is but I'm a passionate person, what can I say. 😊

RainCaster

(13,347 posts)
17. I'm with you
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 02:18 AM
Nov 10

I'm so pissed that those yahoos caved. I'm stuck away from home and the flights home would be a problem for me & the Mrs. But we're pissed because we have up the only power we had and we got nothing in return. I am drafting a long public letter to my senator, it won't be kind.

flying-skeleton

(808 posts)
18. 10 cowarding traitors
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 02:19 AM
Nov 10

These traitorous senators better have gotten rich from surrendering because they just ended their political careers and will have to live their lives in shame ‼️

I will donate to every one who primaries these traitors ‼️

ms.pamela

(70 posts)
19. Anger
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 02:35 AM
Nov 10

Hey, don't feel like you need to apologize, you have been mild compared to what is up on BlueSky. People are really, really mad.

fujiyamasan

(1,012 posts)
20. Don't apologize
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 02:41 AM
Nov 10

A lot of us are pissed, and for the right reason. I would rather democratic leadership had not yanked our chain for weeks now, acting like they cared enough to put up a fight, just to extract no concessions, and then roll over.

I’m more pissed at this point about the drama. I’m pissed that they act shocked that Trump and the republicans would weaponize SNAP.

I’m less pissed about the result, but more of the theater. Was this just about winning the Virginia governors race and the impact this had on federal workers? Because that’s pretty short sighted.

It’s a great way to further destroy people’s confidence in the party. Most people won’t know the details and simply chalk this up to simply “playing politics”.

 

vercetti2021

(10,481 posts)
22. Why are you apologizing?
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 03:06 AM
Nov 10

You didn't do anything fucking wrong. The people who should apologize are the blind ones who still think the old fart establishment are governing in good faith.

Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Original post)

Irish_Dem

(78,158 posts)
28. You have no need to apologize.
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 05:28 AM
Nov 10

If we stop getting angry at the bullshit and evil, then we are just like Maggats.

lark

(25,758 posts)
31. I am 100% with you, minus the alcohol. Did smoke more yesterday night - pure escapism for me.
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 09:50 AM
Nov 10

They all knowingly voted to completely gut healthcare in America and they know R's will never give it back! They already had a vote on this in the Senate and ALL the R;s voted against it, I believe. I know for sure it failed and will 100% fail again unless Dems cooperate on the gutting.

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