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Miles Archer

(21,117 posts)
Tue Nov 18, 2025, 05:51 PM Nov 18

So now we get whatever Bondi decides we get.

I'm sorry, I know it's super cool and all that 100% of the House and Senate voted for this except Clay Higgins, and I've also seen Bondi in action for the last 11 months.

We're going to get whatever she decides we're going to get.

And if Trump is 100% scrubbed from the files, he can say "SEE? I TOLD YOU I had nothing to hide."

Perhaps this should feel like a high-five moment to me. But I trust Bondi as far as I can throw her bottle blonde ass.

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So now we get whatever Bondi decides we get. (Original Post) Miles Archer Nov 18 OP
The story remains the cover-up. That much has not changed. RockRaven Nov 18 #1
100% correct, I am fully with you on that, and... Miles Archer Nov 18 #8
The Friday evening after Thanksgiving... COL Mustard Nov 18 #23
Yep. It's not a subpoena the DOJ can withhold docs from release by misapplying a rule or guideline. It is a LAW. pat_k Nov 18 #24
Miles. That information undidacted already exists. The Biden WH had it, for one. If it's been scrubbed it would be a ... marble falls Nov 18 #2
Only to those who would believe a Biden era leaker. Ilikepurple Nov 18 #5
Why the fuck didn't Biden release it? SamuelTheThird Nov 18 #7
Because it was part of an active criminal investigation of TACO. Releasing information during an investigation ... marble falls Nov 18 #13
That would certainly make sense SamuelTheThird Nov 18 #15
Comey's daughter was leading the investigation in the SDNY. Justice matters. Nov 18 #27
Maxwell was convicted in 2021 and sentenced in 2022 MichMan Nov 20 #33
Thank you. Joinfortmill Nov 19 #32
I hear you. Miles Archer Nov 18 #9
I wonder what will be the misdirection. COL Mustard Nov 18 #29
Except for the 35 % brain dead MAGA, it simply will not be believable if they exonerate Trump. Chasstev365 Nov 18 #3
I cannot for the life of me "do the math" on Trump and conclude that he didn't sample Epstein's "wares." Miles Archer Nov 18 #11
IOMD Redux bucolic_frolic Nov 18 #4
I think there is more than one copy out there .only one makes no sense for this issue. Deuxcents Nov 18 #6
If other people have copies of the originals BlueKota Nov 18 #12
That's what I'm thinking and that will make a cover up even more interesting Deuxcents Nov 18 #14
So after she refuses to release them, bluestarone Nov 18 #10
You can bet the corporate media will take whatever is released at face value. BannonsLiver Nov 18 #16
Is there any chance they can subpoena FBI agents? viva la Nov 18 #17
Agreed AverageOldGuy Nov 18 #18
I'm still waiting for Fitzmas Cirsium Nov 18 #19
I cited both of those, here, yesterday Miles Archer Nov 18 #20
Worse Cirsium Nov 18 #26
It was always going to be. Did the fact the republicans all so eagerly voted for this not give a clue? Bev54 Nov 18 #21
That's why i thought Trump suddenly "changed his tune": because the files got scrubbed... Beartracks Nov 18 #22
Bondi isn't gonna like it under that bus Raven123 Nov 18 #25
The cover up is always worse evilhime Nov 18 #28
Same! sagetea Nov 18 #30
Just like Bill Barr with the Mueller Report. blm Nov 18 #31

RockRaven

(18,503 posts)
1. The story remains the cover-up. That much has not changed.
Tue Nov 18, 2025, 05:56 PM
Nov 18

Congressional Repugs finally decided they don't want that smoke, and are letting Trump own it all.

Miles Archer

(21,117 posts)
8. 100% correct, I am fully with you on that, and...
Tue Nov 18, 2025, 06:03 PM
Nov 18

...if Bondi decides she's master of the universe and released scrubbed files, the world's going to cry "foul," and you will see leaks from other sources.

I am ALWAYS the FIRST ONE TO ADMIT IT when I'm wrong, and I don't think I am wrong on this.

I think Bondi's going to do a data dump that is 100% free of ANYTHING that even REMOTELY incriminates Trump.

COL Mustard

(7,854 posts)
23. The Friday evening after Thanksgiving...
Tue Nov 18, 2025, 07:42 PM
Nov 18

Would be the ideal time. No one is paying attention to news...Black Friday and Cyber Monday are coming!

pat_k

(12,569 posts)
24. Yep. It's not a subpoena the DOJ can withhold docs from release by misapplying a rule or guideline. It is a LAW.
Tue Nov 18, 2025, 07:43 PM
Nov 18

And failure to comply with this law is a CRIME.

A whole different ball of wax.

And I suspect the idiots don't yet appreciate the implications of the difference.

And of course, WAAAY too many people have seen what is in these files. They can try to classify the hell out of parts, but that will be challenged.

Nope. There is no putting this genie back in the bottle.

And whether it brings down the felon or not, it WILL be a scandal that sparks serious anger at people with vast wealth who believe they can get away with anything. And that anger won't just be directed at the people. It will be directed at the system that enabled them to accumulate obscene wealth. Wouldn't it be great if the Epstein scandal was one of the sparks that drives some serious reform?

marble falls

(69,767 posts)
2. Miles. That information undidacted already exists. The Biden WH had it, for one. If it's been scrubbed it would be a ...
Tue Nov 18, 2025, 05:57 PM
Nov 18

... loud admission of guilt.

Ilikepurple

(408 posts)
5. Only to those who would believe a Biden era leaker.
Tue Nov 18, 2025, 06:01 PM
Nov 18

It might be enough to put enough of his supporters over the edge, but I’m not so sure it would be taken as an admission of guilt as much as competing evidence.

SamuelTheThird

(503 posts)
7. Why the fuck didn't Biden release it?
Tue Nov 18, 2025, 06:03 PM
Nov 18

I think we can all figure out that answer...this isn't a one 'side' issue.

That said, whatever trump is guilty of, it goes beyond sex with underaged girls (not saying that isn't a huge crime itself). Epstein was adamant that trump was the worst person he knew. So, there are probably corpses in Trump's wake.

marble falls

(69,767 posts)
13. Because it was part of an active criminal investigation of TACO. Releasing information during an investigation ...
Tue Nov 18, 2025, 06:17 PM
Nov 18

... usually viewed as a bad thing.

Nixon almost caused a mistrial of Charlie Manson just by telling a press conference Manson was guilty.

SamuelTheThird

(503 posts)
15. That would certainly make sense
Tue Nov 18, 2025, 06:27 PM
Nov 18

But how do you know there was an active investigation of Epstein and Trump? I have not heard of that. What did I miss?

Justice matters.

(9,155 posts)
27. Comey's daughter was leading the investigation in the SDNY.
Tue Nov 18, 2025, 07:57 PM
Nov 18

She got Maxwell a 20-year sentence for sex trafficking.

She was still investigating the pedophiles to whom Maxwell sent the victims to when piggy pedo the felon fired her a few weeks ago for revenge against her father.

COL Mustard

(7,854 posts)
29. I wonder what will be the misdirection.
Tue Nov 18, 2025, 07:59 PM
Nov 18

I'm visiting family and Faux Snooze is on from morning till night. Their spin on this is amazing, and I'm sure their gnomes are up all night spinning new ways to mislead their viewers about it. Luckily it's on mute the whole time or I'd have to leave.

Chasstev365

(6,833 posts)
3. Except for the 35 % brain dead MAGA, it simply will not be believable if they exonerate Trump.
Tue Nov 18, 2025, 06:00 PM
Nov 18

Also, there are people outside of the administration who can prove it's bull shit.

I just wish there was a Daniel Ellsberg (Pentagon Papers leaker) who could preemptively leak the Epstein files complete with pictures and video.

To take Trump down, break Putin's (black mailing) hold on US foreign policy, save Ukrainians from a brutal war, and get justice for children who were as young as 13 at the time, going to jail might be worth it.

Miles Archer

(21,117 posts)
11. I cannot for the life of me "do the math" on Trump and conclude that he didn't sample Epstein's "wares."
Tue Nov 18, 2025, 06:08 PM
Nov 18

And if you read the accounts of their relationship, it was a competitive, infantile "frat bro" relationship. Worse than that, lower on the IQ scale, maybe "a couple of horny eight graders" is closer to it.

I DO BELIEVE Trump getting pissed off whenever he got "one upped" by Epstein.

But for Trump to witness what was going on and decide that his moral character was so sterling that he walked away in repulsion.

No way, Ray. No way.

BlueKota

(4,960 posts)
12. If other people have copies of the originals
Tue Nov 18, 2025, 06:16 PM
Nov 18

at least they can't be redacted without others calling them out on it.

bluestarone

(20,891 posts)
10. So after she refuses to release them,
Tue Nov 18, 2025, 06:05 PM
Nov 18

The house should vote for TSF to over ride her decision. HE says release them. HE has full power to do that. Also the senate should as well.

BannonsLiver

(20,137 posts)
16. You can bet the corporate media will take whatever is released at face value.
Tue Nov 18, 2025, 06:54 PM
Nov 18

While then portraying those who don’t buy into the lie nut bags. You can practically set your watch to this shit it’s so obvious what’s going to happen.

viva la

(4,435 posts)
17. Is there any chance they can subpoena FBI agents?
Tue Nov 18, 2025, 06:55 PM
Nov 18

Supposedly hundreds of them were taken away from real crime-fighting to redact all references to Trump.

AverageOldGuy

(3,201 posts)
18. Agreed
Tue Nov 18, 2025, 07:07 PM
Nov 18

I'm not celebrating a thing. Trump will skate on this one just as he has skated his entire life.

Miles Archer

(21,117 posts)
20. I cited both of those, here, yesterday
Tue Nov 18, 2025, 07:20 PM
Nov 18

We'll see what happens.

I also remember Bill Barr's 4-page "summary" of the Mueller report, which concluded that the ten instances of obstruction of justice documented in the report meant that there were no instances of obstruction of justice.

Cirsium

(3,212 posts)
26. Worse
Tue Nov 18, 2025, 07:49 PM
Nov 18

As bad as things were back then, I think they are much worse
now. I am not optimistic.

Bev54

(13,075 posts)
21. It was always going to be. Did the fact the republicans all so eagerly voted for this not give a clue?
Tue Nov 18, 2025, 07:23 PM
Nov 18

It certainly wasn't because they want the actual files released, it was because there was another wall behind them.

Beartracks

(14,234 posts)
22. That's why i thought Trump suddenly "changed his tune": because the files got scrubbed...
Tue Nov 18, 2025, 07:37 PM
Nov 18

... while waiting for Congress -- specifically while Johnson bought him time by keeping the House in recess and Grijalva unseated.

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evilhime

(372 posts)
28. The cover up is always worse
Tue Nov 18, 2025, 07:57 PM
Nov 18

I think he told them to vote for it because it was already scrubbed and shredded and sanitized and redacted… i would be surprised if there were millions of redactions in there, all republican names. I don’t care what side of the aisle you are on if you committed this crime of participation in child rape, abuse, sexual trafficking etc. you should be prosecuted to the fulllest extent of the law and deal with the consequences. The GQP preaches that the children are our future but do nothing to ensure they are educated, loved, cared for, protected. (Sorry for the rant)

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