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https://www.wonkette.com/p/bill-maher-dares-to-dream-of-mediocrityMichael Mora
Shut the fuck up, Bill Maher.
On last Fridays episode of Real Time with Bill Maher on HBO Max, Maher ended the show with his New Rules segment. While the various rules in this recurring segment can vary from mild chuckle to groan, his final rule featured really stupid attacks on NYC Mayor-Elect Zohran Mamdani.
(Only need to watch the first 15 seconds to see Maher's stupidity.)
It was off to a rough start when his first joke landed with deafening silence:
And finally, New Rule: Democrats must recognize that Zohran Mamdani is the future of the party.
Unfortunately, its the Republican Party.
Maher, somehow shocked that hes not funny, looked at the audience with a mixture of anger and Jeb Bush please clap entitlement.
. . .
NewHendoLib
(61,449 posts)Jim__
(15,027 posts)Just_Vote_Dem
(3,482 posts)"Shut the fuck up, Bill Maher"
Prairie Gates
(6,887 posts)Oneironaut
(6,160 posts)He hates anything that threatens the status quo. He definitely changed sometime around 2018-2020 and is just a grouch who hates people who are different.
efhmc
(15,958 posts)Orrex
(66,431 posts)For reasons that have never made sense to me
EYESORE 9001
(29,333 posts)I started disliking that smarmy prick when he was still on broadcast TV.
SocialDemocrat61
(6,493 posts)
UTUSN
(76,399 posts)And my cherry-picking applies across the board - i.e., SNL, where I only look at most of the cold opens and the Weekend Updates. I'm looking at the tablet while the sketches and music are going on. I love the BOROWITZ titles/headlines but have never read a single column, all or part. Never The Onion, or any of the other humor/satirical pieces on "our side" not to mention anything not on our side.
I cut the cable yakkers at least since 2012, but in the erstwhile MSNBC that was my main thing since its inception in its Ashleigh BANFIELD days, I was heavy into Ari MELBER, Nicole WALLACE, have never looked at Jen PSAKI (though loved her as Press Secretary). Sampled heavily these that I absolutely *loved* - Joy REID, MADDOW, O'DONNELL - and heavily, these that I definitely didn't love, on a love-to-hate-basis - Tweety, Joe SCABS. Yet Keith gave me a creepy vibe, and Rachel's every-gory-detail delivery grated me down.
There are some who are definitely on our side whom I just can't take: Stephanie MILLER (I like), and Chris HAYES (barf, gag). HAYES on our side, telling us what we already know and want to hear, is our version of the Faux Propaganda Network for the Nazis.
Speaking of Faux Nazis, if I monitored anybody almost as much as I did Tweety it was LIMBOsevich. And Tweety *still* has *true admirerers* right here. Why LIMBO, because of the love-to-hate thing, plus the keep-enemies-closer thing, plus the Opposition Research thing, plus studying their arguments and excuses and tactics to know what to expect and answer any Wingnut Nazi I might run across at a Happy Hour. Will furnish a link to my Profile of Tweety I wrote 25 years ago or so.
So, in the Faux heyday, I sampled some of the menu enough to discard DOOCY pere, KILMEADE, BAIER. I frequently watched with horror HUME whipping Juan WILLIAMS. Some were useless and frustrating: Geraldo, VAN SUSTEREN, CAVUTO, COLMES.
But Faux's totally insufferably *detestables/Deplorables* are: Meegan KELLY and the medieval Catholics O'LOOFAH and HANNITY. The first and third I would never watch. O'LOOFAH is the one in the Tweety category, whom I monitored since he went syndicated in my radio area in the '80s.
**** But to the point: There are some I will never look/hear. There are some Enemies that need close vigilence. But beyond all that, I am a Third Gen, lifelong Dem in the FDR, HST, LBJ strain and have the DNA of the Dem agenda, one free thinking. As said, there are some philosophies I won't listen to at all, but I cast a wide net to keep Watch (Navy term for "guard duty" ) on the enemy intel. Some key Lib concepts are: Looking *within* for root causes to fix faults in our own strategies. I don't subscribe to the idea that one's brain will be washed by studying enemy thoughts.
So, MAHER sometimes has a point about flaws in our strategy. It's called constructive criticism. I don't get my thoughts from him. I have long thought that some of our messaging has an elitist tinge, that we need what Adlai called "talking sense to the American people," the common touch. B. CLINTON had it; GORE didn't. I detested RAYGUN and never credited him as "communicator," more like trained by the Hollywood machine in elocution, delivery, faking sincerity. I also was serious thinking Jerry SPRINGER would have been great as a candidate. What parts of MAHER I watch are the monolog and the comedic features of New Rules, and occasional panels and interviews. I also sample selected guests on the Random thing. I really liked his Religulous movie. In the past few years my main impression of him is less about politics, more about how static he's gotten in his aging, the rigidity and repetition and griping and stagnation of his thought processes. And I love it when people like Sam HARRIS and Seth MacFARLANE take him down. The classiest ones to do it were Jane FONDA and - yes, I stoop to cherry-pick: - Kris JENNER.
*** AND saluts to you/Orrex, have long liked and Recc'd your posts. Not needed for us, but this makes our point for both of us:
UTUSN
(76,399 posts)*** Before the Tweety stuff, explaining about STEWART: He's something like a Third Way/No Labels type, always nagging & sniping at us while being graced by whomever as being a Lib voice. Now, to Tweety:
Etymology of "Tweety". During Campaign 2000 the media noise machine was swooning over the nicknames Shrub was giving some of them. Media Whores Online ran a contest to nickname Chris MATTHEWS. In the first three or so weeks, there was no clear, catchy front runner, with "The Screamer" sort of leading. Then one of MATTHEWS's own Hardball staff leaked to MWO that they themselves called him "Tweety" because of the Clairol shade of hair coloring he favored. This was immediately declared the winner. But in some quarters, it wasn't entirely satisfactory. For one thing, by the time the name was declared, the shade had changed to platinum, leading to a suggestion he be called "Carole LOMBARD".
Plus, "Tweety" sounded too affectionate.
His Misogyny. Then M-TV held its 20th or 25th or whatever anniversary, and all the cable echo chambers were doing segments of Britney shedding her duds down to almost nothing. Not to be left behind, Tweety followed suit, with a guest "culture" commentator from Time Mag, the young humor columnist, Joel STEIN. The staff kept re-running the Britney clip, and Tweety was clearly DROOLING disgustingly. STEIN said, "You're beginning to creep me out." Tweety responded, "Yeah, well, wait till YOU're 50." This led to the suggestion that "Tweety" be modified to "Tweezer" to retain the hair reference while canceling out the affection factor and also adding the (dirty old) "geezer" angle.
Back when, misogyny was a wink-wink/smirk-smirk thing among the old style flunkies like him, there were many examples of his, with HRC being his prime target for years until she was becoming a real contender, when he yearned to host her, but the bridges had been burned.
But here's a vignette from back in the day, regarding his wife Kathleen. He deigned to host her or let her co-host a segment or so, this time with him and another recycled miscreant Mike BARNICLE. She was standing like at the front of a class and they two were sitting like the smirking, spit-balling, Catholic schoolboy-jerks that they really are. She trudged through her presentation, taking her subject seriously while the two of them smirked, giggled, and mocked all the way. But regarding Kathleen, he exemplifies one signature characteristic of misogynists: Despite the obviously hostile behaviors, they claim to adore, honor, put-on-a-pedestal women. And Tweety frequently does that over-compensating, protests-too-much thing by referring to her as, "MY QUEEN."
*************So flash forward decades to the TWITLER atrocious era, specifically calling Senator WARREN Pocahontas. Tweety hosted her soon after a TWITLER episode of it, besides a manic outburst of his sputtering interrupting, almost giggling every time he said that name, catching himself each time then protesting that it was a horrible thing, like Beavis/Butthead giggling at a dirty word. So WARREN kept to the high road and that TWITLER was not going to silence her. So then he struck, like when he lashed out at DONAHUE. He was in bursting giggle mode and said, "So, for you 'Pocahontas' will be like a clarion call for you to come charging out!1" and he busted his gut. WARREN looked sucker punched.
Darrell HAMMOND "Doing" Tweety on SNL. Tweety's ego was massively stroked after the debut of HAMMOND's impersonation of him, either in 2001 or 2002. He said, "I am now an ICON: I have been 'done' on Saturday Night Live'." The funniest line in the debut was HAMMOND as Tweety, cracking himself up with, "For the ... FIFTY ... people who watch this show... (Hardball, not SNL). In the first few times HAMMOND featured him, the target was Tweety himself -- manically interrupting, spitting, and drooling. However, the characterization evolved, not true to the original, where Tweety became the "rational" character surrounded by oddball, extremist "guests", with HAMMOND-Tweety shaking his head in disbelief at their partisan spin.
"Turning" from Being a Democrat. He (like G.E.RUSSERT and Pat CADDELL) still trades on having been a Democrat in the CARTER/O'NEILL era. In the hothouse of big time political flunkydom, STATUS and POWER come from the SUCCESS of your boss. RAYGUN kicked Tweety's bosses' rears, and Tweety gravitated to admiring that "success". When he started up his media career he was mentored by G.E. RUSSERT, who had himself already started "turning" by "reaching out" to LIMBOsevic and expending his formerly-Lib-bleeding-heart on those poor wingnuts who had been maligned and marginalized by the Liberal Elite, lo those many years. Tweety started doing video valentines to RAYGUN, promenading arm in arm with Nancy. He might have tapped into the frenzy of the FAKE impeachment, but "hatred of the CLINTONs" isn't what made him turn. The last time he was identifiably a Democrat was sometime around 1988 when Hardball (the book) was published. Throughout the year of Campaign 2000 he savaged the Dem candidate daily and went on to years of bromance over Shrub, renouncing any Democratic heritage. He said his parents were cloth coat" (Rethugs), and that basically what first drew him to the Dem side was Irish-Catholic pride over JFK. Not ideology, not idealism. He said the reason he joined the Peace Corps was specifically to avoid going to Vietnam.
How Tweety "Executed" DONAHUE on MSNBC. Tweety was on his book tour for another one of his "books" (large type, wide spaces between lines, blank half-pages). It was in the jingoistic hysteria in the run-up to the illegal Iraq attack. The book was about supposed "Americanism" -- an American Civ 101 ripoff about books and movies and cultural stuff that are essentially American (think, "The Great Gatsby" ). So Phil welcomed him as a colleague and peer on Phil's MSNBC show for the full hour to plug the book. From the moment he appeared, there was a strange, deadly snake look in Tweety's snake eyes. Phil was walking around the audience, apparently not sensing anything, while Tweety was motionless, following him only with his eyes. Phil brought up something or other questioning blind, kneejerk jingoism, and Tweety STRUCK! He started out with venom dripping, "You see, THIS is EXACTLY what's wrong with YOU Liberals: You are NEGATIVE about this country, you find NOTHING good about it," and on and on. It took awhile before Phil figured out what was happening. Later, Phil, devastated and spent, was sitting at the table with Tweety and, weaker and weaker, did some of his trademark shoulder shrugging and arm waving. Tweety delivered the coup de grace, "What's THIS (mimicking the movements)??!! What's with the --APE-- movements???!" Days or a week or two later, Phil's cancellation was announced and took effect.Here's Phil confirming it:
How Tweety "Triggered" a Gun Incident (re: Kathleen WILLEY). At the height of the FAKE impeachment, Ms WILLEY claimed that a mystery jogger had threatened her or her cat or somebody, with the insinuation that there was a CLINTON connection. Several months later, there was gossip that the jogger had been identified. Tweety hosted her and it appeared they had discussed the identity off camera. He tried mightily to get her to say the name on the air, which she wouldn't do. Finally, he himself blurted it out, "Was it (Name/Surname)?" She wouldnt confirm it. Within days there was a bizarre incident, with the mentally disabled brother of Pat and Bay BUCHANAN going with a gun to the house of the supposed jogger named by Tweety, where there were only some foreign exchange students present. Later it was determined that the person Tweety named on the air had NOTHING to do with the supposed jogger incident.
"Heroes" Tweety and Tom DeLAY. In the aftermath of the 07-24-98 shooting of two Capitol police officers when the slain officers were duly eulogized and called heroes, Tweety latched on to this, the way we have seen him attempt to glorify himself in other instances: Like saying he was assigned to Africa in the Peace Corps and "WALKED THE SAME GROUND" THAT CHURCHILL had passed through. Or when he said, "I am an ICON! I have been 'done' by SNL!". So now that the Capitol policemen were being called heroes, Tweety came forward to say that HE had been a Capitol policemen, TOO, JUST LIKE THEM, when he was starting out. It turns out that he had worked a (temporary?) job for three months as that. In all the years before the officers were shot and eulogized, he probably NEVER referred to that job, most likely thinking of it as a rent-a-cop turn, until he could see in retrospect the glory that he had been DESTINED to from the beginning.
But he is not the only glory hog. When that incident was happening, the news of the moment reported that Tom DELAY had hopped a plane out of town and immediately turned around in Houston when the incident was over. This show of courage is why he has been dubbed, "Tom-DePLANE!-DePLANE!-DELAY". But searches of countless news reports of that time show no mention of the hopping-the-plane. Only this is left: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/longterm /... "...House members, many rushing out of town, did not have to remain behind. DeLay slipped out the main door of the Capitol less than 15 minutes after the shooting. He looked stricken. Asked if he'd seen anything, he said, "Did I ever. I don't want to talk about it." Aides rushed him into his waiting car. ...."
erronis
(22,051 posts)I am not a TV or cable consumer so most of what I know comes from snippets on sites such as these. But I recognize an awful lot of the characters and their idiotsyncracies.
UTUSN
(76,399 posts)about OBAMA. The SCABS and Mika Mouse courtship and marriage was stunning. But the incessant KRASNOV onslaught is my end of life fatigue. Am soon to be 79 and hope to see him gone before I am.
Have loved and Recc'd your posts.
Emile
(39,344 posts)is now his new rules.
Bill Maher can take his right-wing bs, and stuff it where the sun doesn't shine!
Dave Bowman
(6,304 posts)SocialDemocrat61
(6,493 posts)
Bluepinky
(2,501 posts)He has forgotten that Capitalism isnt working for everyone, especially when its as corrupt as it is now.
maxsolomon
(37,902 posts)And that a Social Democrat is going to have a tough time winning the Presidency.
It's not entirely wrong.
Mosby
(19,179 posts)That what he called the DSA convention.
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