⚠️ Sitting US senators and representatives are publicly communicating to the members of the US military and intelligence

[demmiblue]

⚠️ Sitting US senators and representatives are publicly communicating to the members of the US military and intelligence communities that they should not obey illegal orders:

⚠️ Sitting US senators and representatives are publicly communicating to the members of the US military and intelligence communities that they should not obey illegal orders:

— Leah McElrath (@leahmcelrath.bsky.social) 2025-11-19T20:10:36.114Z

This is unprecedented in my memory.

Slotkin and Kelly are both on the Senate Armed Services Committee.

Deluzio, Goodlander, Houlahan are all on the House Armed Services Committee, and Crow is on the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.

They would not be doing this without cause.

— Leah McElrath (@leahmcelrath.bsky.social) 2025-11-19T20:45:45.484Z

[electric_blue68]

1. Woah. TY Senators, and Representatives! And demiblue

Made me tear up.

One of my favorite SF shows had a sub plot at a certain point about the military refusing illegal orders.

[demmiblue]

2. damn -- Jason Crow demolished Martha MacCallum to the point where she had to get extremely defensive before wrapping up

damn -- Jason Crow demolished Martha MacCallum to the point where she had to get extremely defensive before wrapping up the interview

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) 2025-11-19T21:19:13.968Z

[Ligyron]

36. They're running scared.

The rats know the JIG is up and.are jumping ship or going down in flames.

It’s only a matter of time before a majority of GrOper Congress Critters turn on him.

[wiggs]

3. This is chilling. What do the senators and reps know about what's coming? nt

[orangecrush]

5. Damn sure got that right

[karin_sj]

7. Attack on Venezuela or Mexico soil?

[ananda]

8. that wold be it.

So illegal.

[Farmer-Rick]

27. What the Navy is doing right now is illegal

US Southern Command will have a lot to answer for when king of pigs, pedo Trump is no longer president.

You don't have to follow the orders of the president of the United States when those orders are illegal, immoral and bat shit crazy.

[Randomthought]

30. A stain on their honor

[TommyT139]

32. There was already an incursion

...into Mexico, to place warning signs on a beach.

The US is already at the "I dare ya" stage.

[COL Mustard]

34. That's what concerns me as well.

Why are they issuing this statement now?

Of course Felon 47 loses his mind over it and calls for their execution. Unfortunately they are right. Troops should not follow illegal orders.

[Kali]

4. wow

[orangecrush]

6. The game is afoot

[flashman13]

9. Everything that has happened since January 20th is unprecedented. Of course this video is unprecedented.

[Hotler]

21. That's way unprecedented tactics and unheard of amounts of gumption are need now.

Apples to oranges I know, Peru had a coup attempt a few years back and the perpetrators where in jail by sundown. If our military wasn't showing signs being fascist this shit show could have been over within days of Jan. 6. In my opinion.

[flashman13]

29. Unprecedented actions are demanded when you are in a war with monsters dedicated to destroying our country.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

10. There was an article saying that the military is going to law firms outside government for advice on legality of orders.

They are going to outside law firms to ask for advice on orders like the military strikes on the Venezuelan boats. They apparently have a choice between being court-martialed or doing a war crime.

[Glass City]

11. It's their duty to refuse illegal orders

They took an oath to defend the Constitution against ALL enemies, foreign or domestic.

Didn't the Nuremburg Trials establish that 'I was just following orders' isn't a valid defense?

[KS Toronado]

14. Welcome to DU!

[ITAL]

25. Actually the HMHS Llandovery Castle case did

Forgotten now, but that case was one of the main precedents the prosecutors used at Nuremberg.

[Iggo]

12. He's going to start a war to hide the fact that he fucks children.

[vapor2]

19. no doubt

[AKwannabe]

33. This! This! This! nt

[upacreek]

13. Really you have their back?

Give me a break. Our service men & women are supposed to believe all of the sudden someone has their back! Have you ever served in the military? Seems like u forget. A service man or women would have to have tremendous faith/fortitude to stand alone. That is where we left them, alone.

[KS Toronado]

15. Welcome to DU !

[upacreek]

16. thank you KS Toronado

thank you Ks for the for the welcome. I've been here for quite awhile. Call it lurking if you want, I say it's listening, learning. When I have something to say I will.

[upacreek]

17. furry freak brothers!

dope will get you through times of no money better than times of no money will get you through of no dope. Hey remind me what is the correct wording.

[KS Toronado]

18. That's over my head

remember hearing that saying 40/50 years ago but not sure of the exact wording, sorry.

[Hey Joe]

31. Dope will get you through times of no money

Better than money will get you through times of no dope.
Still have an old Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers comic from the 70’s.

[Hotler]

20. The American military needs to go before the American people and declare whish side of history they're on.

Democracy and freedom or fascism and dictatorship. I can't tell anymore.

[Srkdqltr]

26. How does that work 🤔?

[Hotler]

28. The American people need to flood Washington with calls for the military to make a statement to the american people.

All it takes is participation. Are you in?

[Kid Berwyn]

22. Trump's that worried about mid-terms?

Lock him up.

[wiggs]

23. If the midterms are looking bad for TSF, there won't be midterms...at least fair midterms. We ALL saw

what happened in 2020...Flynn says martial law and grab voting machines, lackies help Jan 6 riots, pressure on VP, 60 some lawsuits, threats to replace DOJ officials and military officials, fake electors, grassley somehow thinks he's going to preside over electoral counts, etc.

They learned lessons from all that and we MUST acknowledge we are seeing the start of worse this time around. Guardrails are down.

And we know this is a global/corporate/oligarch effort put in place over decades...they won't tolerate threats from mere mid term elections in the US

[Kid Berwyn]

24. Tried warning everybody, but, you know.

A mob of domestic terrorists were directed by the President of the United States to Congress in order to stop the counting of the vote by the People. In effect, the executive branch attacked the legislative branch. Donald J Trump is a traitor.



Trump Told Crowd ‘You Will Never Take Back Our Country With Weakness’

As Congress prepared to certify the victory of his successor, President Trump railed against the election and helped set in motion hours of violence.

Maggie Haberman
The New York Times, Jan. 6, 2021

Excerpt...

“We want to be so respectful of everybody,” Mr. Trump said, before calling his political opponents bad people. “And we are going to have to fight much harder. And Mike Pence is going to have to come through for us, and if he doesn’t, that will be a sad day for our country. Because you’re sworn to uphold our Constitution.”

Calling the outcome of the election “this egregious assault on our democracy,” he said his supporters should “walk down to the Capitol. And we are going to cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and women, and we are probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them. Because you will never take back our country with weakness.”

Mr. Trump did not in fact travel with the supporters he urged to go fight for him; he returned to the White House, and berated aides about how the scene had appeared, before taking to Twitter to attack Mr. Pence for his stand.

Before Mr. Trump took the stage, his personal lawyer, Rudolph W. Giuliani, addressed the crowd and called for “trial by combat” against the Democrats to win the election.

Continue...

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/06/us/politics/trump-speech-incite.html

“THESE are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands by it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman.” — Thomas Paine, Dec. 23, 1776

https://www.ushistory.org/paine/crisis/c-01.htm

Thanks, Putin!

Original Post: Barbarians at the Gates of Democracy

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214835602

Oh well, Orwell! Democracy still has a chance, as long as there’s at least two of us, wiggs.

[KPN]

35. As they should under the circumstances'. Thank God.

[hadEnuf]

37. Trump is now a cornered rat.

He will do anything to divert from the Epstein files, even start a war to grab the headlines. Then he can also declare war on the American people he doesn't like by using the Insurrection Act when people demonstrate or complain about it and lock them up.

Hope I'm wrong but I would not put it past him and his henchmen for a minute.