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turbinetree

(26,801 posts)
Wed Nov 19, 2025, 06:14 PM Wednesday

This Is All John Roberts' Fault

Trump owes his corrupt and abusive reign to one man.

Pema Levy and Ari Berman

Imagine: You are at a baseball game, but something is off. When the blue team is at bat, the umpire calls every pitch a strike. But when the red team is up, the umpire won’t call a single one. When a red batter hits the ball into a blue player’s glove—out!—the umpire sends him to first base anyway. You can’t believe what you are seeing. This is crazy, right? This is crazy. You look around. Does everyone else see what is happening?

Twenty years ago, John Roberts promised that as chief justice of the Supreme Court, he would be like an umpire, calling balls and strikes. His promise charmed senators and the media, who believed that his predilection for executive power and long-held antipathy for civil rights could be moderated by this commitment to faithfully apply the law. The delusion was so powerful that for two decades, the media defaulted to portraying him as a moderate institutionalist, pointing to high-profile decisions—to uphold parts of the Affordable Care Act or striking down President Donald Trump’s attempt to ask about citizenship in the 2020 census—in which he broke from conservative orthodoxy. But those decisions were always the exception. Today, as the Roberts court rewrites the Constitution in the image of Trumpian autocracy, it’s become clear that Roberts’ promise to be a neutral umpire was a lie. We are watching a rigged game, and Roberts set it up.

The Roberts court has spent Trump’s second term not applying the law so much as clearing it out of his way. In a matter of months, the court’s 6–3 GOP-aligned majority has permitted a long list of lawless actions, including firing independent agency commissioners, using racial profiling in immigration sweeps, disappearing immigrants to authoritarian and war-torn nations, and defying Congress’ power of the purse. But the court’s acquiescence to an antidemocratic America didn’t start in 2025. Roberts has been embedding white-dominant authoritarianism into the country’s source code for two decades. It’s impossible to imagine today’s crisis without the Roberts court having first undermined the foundations of our democracy.

-snip-

Under the Roberts court, it won’t be enough to rewrite the rules of the game. The umpires are the problem.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2025/11/john-roberts-donald-trump-supreme-court/

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This Is All John Roberts' Fault (Original Post) turbinetree Wednesday OP
And never forget montanacowboy Wednesday #1
Yepper............... turbinetree Wednesday #2
Yepper............... turbinetree Wednesday #3
Not Roberts. He wasn't on the USSC then. valleyrogue Wednesday #5
Yes, but --- madamesilverspurs Wednesday #8
He wasn't the driving force. valleyrogue Wednesday #13
Bingo yorkster Wednesday #26
That was before Roberts. You can thank Rehnquist, O'Connor, Scalia, Kennedy, and Thomas for that. kerry-is-my-prez Wednesday #6
That was Renquist, not Roberts. Nt Fiendish Thingy Wednesday #7
That wasn't Roberts. LisaM Wednesday #18
Roberts is a SUPREME Trump whore Skittles Wednesday #4
Roberts is a worse traitor to the Constitution than Trump. dalton99a Wednesday #9
Wait, WHAAAT?!? Fiendish Thingy Wednesday #10
Don't know what made me think of this title dpibel Wednesday #24
The perfect theme song for Garland scapegoaters! Nt Fiendish Thingy Wednesday #28
First in line for blame is McTurtle, then Roberts Hassler Wednesday #11
Yep!!! Turtle GAtomboy Thursday #29
"Racism is dead." czarjak Wednesday #12
Two men. Nader mzmolly Wednesday #14
The fact is it was Jeff Zucker who created the monster called Trump. valleyrogue Wednesday #15
This started with Uncle Clarence Thomas mdbl Wednesday #16
Citizens United is the true Robert's nightmare.. mjvpi Wednesday #17
Amen Mysterian Wednesday #22
Citizens United got the United States the best government that money can buy. Uncle Joe Wednesday #19
Your welcome.................thank the great reporters at Mother Jones turbinetree Thursday #30
Leonard Leo got what he paid for. bronxiteforever Wednesday #20
Judges Matter Puppyjive Wednesday #21
Great analogy and you are spot on! Chasstev365 Wednesday #23
Believe this to be correct. republianmushroom Wednesday #25
I always thought Roberts was an ass jfz9580m Wednesday #27

montanacowboy

(6,639 posts)
1. And never forget
Wed Nov 19, 2025, 06:29 PM
Wednesday

stop the counting of ballots to allow Geo. W. Bush in the door. That was a nightmare to live through. Thanks Roberts.

valleyrogue

(2,475 posts)
5. Not Roberts. He wasn't on the USSC then.
Wed Nov 19, 2025, 06:40 PM
Wednesday

Roberts was a Bush II appointee upon the death of CJ Rehnquist. It was the Rehnquist court that ruled on Bush v. Gore.

madamesilverspurs

(16,443 posts)
8. Yes, but ---
Wed Nov 19, 2025, 06:55 PM
Wednesday

Roberts was a driving force on W's legal team that helped to engineer the pleadings that "persuaded" the Rehnquist court; his appointment was reward for that work. Also on that that team, Kavanaugh and Barrett. Great big steaming pile of coincidence, yes?

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valleyrogue

(2,475 posts)
13. He wasn't the driving force.
Wed Nov 19, 2025, 07:47 PM
Wednesday

The fact is he wasn't on the USSC at the time. It was asserted above that he was, and that is not true. The blame falls squarely on the majority of the Rehnquist court. They didn't have to buy what the Bush lawyers were selling.

kerry-is-my-prez

(10,197 posts)
6. That was before Roberts. You can thank Rehnquist, O'Connor, Scalia, Kennedy, and Thomas for that.
Wed Nov 19, 2025, 06:50 PM
Wednesday

O’Conner was the swing vote who surprised everyone by siding with Rehnquist & Co. The Supreme Court went down the tubes when Reagan appointed Rehnquist and Scalia but especially when George HW put Clarence Thomas (a completely unqualified judge) on the court. Thomas made it ok to start putting on hacks. Rehnquist and Scalia at least had impeccable qualifications.

LisaM

(29,429 posts)
18. That wasn't Roberts.
Wed Nov 19, 2025, 08:25 PM
Wednesday

That was Scalia and Clarence Thomas and Sandra Day O'Connor and William Rehnquist, all of whom should have recused themselves for conflict of interest. Kennedy, too, bit I can't think of a specific conflict he may have had.

Fiendish Thingy

(21,628 posts)
10. Wait, WHAAAT?!?
Wed Nov 19, 2025, 07:00 PM
Wednesday

I’ve read so many threads over the past several years that assert, with 100% certainty, that Meek Merrick Garland is the One and Only True Villain of this story…

And now you come along and tell me that no, it’s actually John Roberts and the corrupt MAGA majority on SCOTUS who are the ones to blame?

Well, that changes everything…

This member of the reality-based community thanks you for your rational perspective.



PS: court expansion, and killing the filibuster to do so, must be THE litmus test for every primary candidate running for congress or senate.

Without court expansion Dems, once back in power, will be blocked from repairing the damage of the Trump era and restoring Democracy.

valleyrogue

(2,475 posts)
15. The fact is it was Jeff Zucker who created the monster called Trump.
Wed Nov 19, 2025, 07:54 PM
Wednesday

Roberts was a bit player compared to the untold damage Jeff Zucker, former head of CNN, did to the public. Zucker CREATED Trump the candidate for ratings in an attempt to make a joke candidate's campaign into a reality TV show.

If it weren't for Zucker, Trump would have been just another corrupt NYC real estate mogul, largely forgotten outside the Big Apple.

No Zucker, no Trump. No Trump, no packing the USSC with hack Federalist Society judges.

mdbl

(7,855 posts)
16. This started with Uncle Clarence Thomas
Wed Nov 19, 2025, 08:08 PM
Wednesday

Anita Hill tried to warn everyone. No one listened and here we are today - amidst the most corrupt supreme court in history.

Mysterian

(6,092 posts)
22. Amen
Wed Nov 19, 2025, 08:36 PM
Wednesday

An utterly corrupt decision that must be overturned by whatever mean necessary.

Uncle Joe

(63,770 posts)
19. Citizens United got the United States the best government that money can buy.
Wed Nov 19, 2025, 08:34 PM
Wednesday

Thanks for the thread turbinetree

bronxiteforever

(10,985 posts)
20. Leonard Leo got what he paid for.
Wed Nov 19, 2025, 08:35 PM
Wednesday

He assisted Clarence Thomas in his Supreme Court confirmation hearings and led campaigns to support the nominations of John Roberts, Samuel Alito, Neil Gorsuch, Brett Kavanaugh, and Amy Coney Barrett.

jfz9580m

(16,176 posts)
27. I always thought Roberts was an ass
Wed Nov 19, 2025, 11:35 PM
Wednesday

I saw through the moderate bs.

He is not funny either. He is just a myopic bore:

https://www.courthousenews.com/supreme-court-revives-battle-over-frog-habitat-in-louisiana/

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/chief-justice-roberts-gets-vivid-075742786.html

The endangered dusky gopher frog is cool unlike Roberts:





They are fighting a losing battle at least wrt being on the right side of history - these invasive, anti-environment assholes:

https://saveamphibians.org/

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