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CatWoman

(80,210 posts)
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 12:57 AM Friday

Looks like we're not the only ones sick of Fetterman's BS

John Fetterman’s New Book BOMBS, Sells Zero Copies in His Hometown’s Barnes & Noble on Launch Day

Sen. John Fetterman’s (D-PA) new memoir Unfettered sold zero copies in his own hometown’s Barnes & Noble store the first few days after launch, according to a review of the book.

Despite Fetterman and his ghostwriter reportedly receiving more than a million dollars in advance money from publisher Crown, Unfettered has so far sold poorly, both online and in retail stores.

“The day after Fetterman’s book dropped, I called a handful of Barnes and Nobles [sic] and independent bookstores in Pennsylvania,” reported Defector Media’s Alex Shultz. “The Barnes and Noble in York—where Fetterman was born and raised—had sold zero copies. The Barnes and Noble in Philadelphia had sold two copies.”

https://www.mediaite.com/politics/john-fettermans-new-book-bombs-sells-zero-copies-in-his-hometowns-barnes-noble-on-launch-day/

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Looks like we're not the only ones sick of Fetterman's BS (Original Post) CatWoman Friday OP
"Nice book" said Triumph the Insult Comic Dog oasis Friday #1
It'll probably be remaindered by February... regnaD kciN Friday #2
I love John Fetterman. Halicarnassus Friday #3
Welcome to DU. Good fit? Celerity Friday #5
"Moderation in temper is always a virtue, but moderation in principle is always a vice" Thomas Paine Ping Tung Friday #13
Fetterman campaigned as a progressive and bent the knee to Trump Immediately Emile Friday #6
Everything I've seen on him over the last Ilsa Friday #26
Not really. His record and policies weren't super progressive. Activists just liked his wife and Bernie vouched for him thebigidea Friday #41
Do a web search, did Fetterman campaigned as a progressive? Emile Friday #43
Fetterman is a damn good fit for republicans. Not a good fit at all for Democrats. Autumn Friday #7
+1 Emile Friday #9
Now, that makes sense. H2O Man Friday #34
He's more popular with Republicans than with either Independents or Democrats muriel_volestrangler Friday #8
And yet, his constituents bought zero copies of his books. Not a good fit at all, apparently. Scrivener7 Friday #10
No, he's not a good no matter the state themaguffin Friday #14
oh boy -- welcome to DU obamanut2012 Friday #15
You state in your profile you are "not a wokester" -- what does that mean? obamanut2012 Friday #16
I think it implies a desire towards incrementalism, centrism mr715 Friday #23
"wokester" is an informal, often derogatory, term used to describe Autumn Friday #32
Yes, this is what I am saying. mr715 Friday #33
Wonder if Fetteman ever has any Cha Friday #4
Karma is sweet! lark Friday #11
Yep, there is no base for him anymore. He scammed people and he's politically done beyond his term themaguffin Friday #12
Here we go again with the Manchin, Sinema pattern. gulliver Friday #17
He campaigned and WON as a left wing progressive. Emile Friday #18
Doesn't matter one bit to me. gulliver Friday #19
But what if Mad_Machine76 Friday #21
He has standing in the team due to his democratic election. gulliver Friday #25
Are you suggesting Mad_Machine76 20 hrs ago #48
There is no Democratic Socialist party in the US. Incanus Friday #20
I heard on NPR this morning that Mamdani "identifies as a Democratic Socialist" gulliver Friday #24
Mamdani is a Democrat, he was elected twice as a Democrat. Incanus Friday #27
Exactly +1 Emile Friday #29
He was elected as a Democrat but identifies as a Democratic Socialist gulliver Friday #35
Lol, sure. You said he belonged to a different party Incanus Friday #36
Thanks. I take "lols" as concession. gulliver Friday #37
And I'll take your admission that you were wrong as concession. Incanus Friday #38
It's not maligning someone to not deify them. gulliver Friday #39
No one deifies Mamdani, he has charisma and talent and solidly won his race. Incanus Friday #42
The tent is most certainly big enough for Fetterman and Mamdani gulliver Friday #44
We can agree to agree then. Incanus Friday #45
Good night gulliver Friday #47
Who is surprised by this? LetMyPeopleVote Friday #22
How go the hoody sales? Sneederbunk Friday #28
Giant hoodies with short pants BlueWaveNeverEnd Friday #46
Never warmed to this guy. He always set my spidey senses off. Joinfortmill Friday #30
;-{) Goonch Friday #31
Maybe more will sell when another TP shortage hits yaesu Friday #40

regnaD kciN

(27,381 posts)
2. It'll probably be remaindered by February...
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 01:48 AM
Friday

Pity the same can’t be said about his political career.

 

Halicarnassus

(27 posts)
3. I love John Fetterman.
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 02:38 AM
Friday

Pennsylvania is not Massachusetts or New York City. In two of the last three elections, it went for the uber-flawed Republican Trump over two accomplished center-left Democrats. For godsakes, Bob Casey lost. This isn’t the PA from 2000 or even 2010. Fetterman is a solid fit. It didn’t swing as far to the right as Ohio and Iowa, but it did swing rightward.

Celerity

(53,228 posts)
5. Welcome to DU. Good fit?
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 04:03 AM
Friday
John Fetterman Whines About How Budget Vote Is Ruining His Beach Plans



The Pennsylvania senator is more worried about his beach vacation than a bill that will cause millions of Americans to lose health care.

https://newrepublic.com/post/197437/john-fetterman-budget-vote-ruining-beach-plans

https://archive.ph/3pPpr



Senator John Fetterman—known mostly for his basketball shorts, his disdain for participating at his fairly easy job, and his highly publicized mental health crisis—would rather be at the beach than in the Senate voting on Trump’s sweeping budget bill.



“Oh my god, I just wanna go home,” Fetterman said Monday in response to a question regarding when voting on the bill would end. “I’ve already … I’ve missed our entire trip to the beach, my family’s gonna be back before we … and again, I’m gonna vote no, there’s no drama. The votes are gonna go. In fact the only interesting votes are gonna be on the margin, whether that’s [Susan] Collins, [Ron] Johnson, and those, but all the Democrats, we all know how that’s gonna go. And I think—I don’t think it’s really helpful to put people here til some ungodly hour.”

While the Republican’s Senate majority makes the bill’s passing highly likely, some Democrats are still speaking out rather than longing for vacation. “If you are concerned about health care, which I suspect that everybody in the world is, this bill throws over 16 million people off the health insurance they have, according to the Congressional Budget Office, by cutting Medicaid and the Affordable Care Act by over $1.1 trillion,” Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders said on Sunday night. “In other words, the top one percent [is] getting a $975 billion tax break, and that is coming directly by throwing 16 million people off of the health insurance they have.”

But Fetterman has had a contentious relationship with the job he campaigned to do. That dynamic, combined with his mental health, extreme hatred of Palestinians, and his general rightward shift, only increase the questions surrounding his future as a Democratic senator, or as a senator at all.

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Fetterman Praises Trump's Greenland Threats: 'A Smart Thing'



https://www.thedailybeast.com/fetterman-praises-trumps-greenland-threats-a-smart-thing/

https://archive.ph/WPWoP



Pennsylvania Sen. John Fetterman said Wednesday he’s open to Donald Trump’s idea that the U.S. acquire Greenland, telling reporters that it’s “strategically a smart thing.”

“I mean, it’s pretty reasonable, and I think it’s actually strategically a smart thing,” Fetterman said, according to NBC News. CNN’s Manu Raju added that Fetterman told the press that he would support the acquisition if Denmark did as well.

Fetterman and Trump had a meeting a few days ago at Trump’s Florida club, Mar-a-Lago, where they not only discussed Greenland but other expansionist ideas—such as reacquiring the Panama Canal.



Trump had kind things to say about Fetterman afterward. “It was a totally fascinating meeting. He’s a fascinating man, and his wife is lovely. They were both up, and I couldn’t be more impressed,” he told the Washington Examiner. “He’s a commonsense person. He’s not liberal or conservative. He’s just a commonsense person, which is beautiful.”

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John Fetterman says he would 'fully support' U.S. troops in Gaza after Trump floats proposal



The Pennsylvania Democrat, a staunch defender of Israel, has shown a public openness to working with President Donald Trump.

https://www.inquirer.com/politics/fetterman-trump-gaza-occupation-20250204.html

https://archive.ph/mozAc

U.S. Sen. John Fetterman, the Pennsylvania Democrat who has shown a public openness to working with President Donald Trump, reportedly said Tuesday that he would “fully support” a role for U.S. forces after Trump proposed a U.S. occupation of Gaza.

“The Palestinians have refused, or they’ve been unwilling, to deliver a government that provided security and economic development for themselves,” Fetterman said, according to a report from Jewish Insider. “They allowed 10/7 to occur, and now Gaza has to be rebuilt. Where are the people going to live? Where are they going to go? So it’s part of a conversation with where they’re at right now.”

Asked about the possibility of U.S. troops on the ground, Fetterman told Jewish Insider he did not know what their specific role would entail. “But they’re obviously a part of it, and I fully support,” said Fetterman, who was in Washington to vote as the lone Democrat in support of confirming Trump nominee Pam Bondi for attorney general.

During a news conference with Israeli leader Benjamin Netanyahu on Tuesday, Trump proposed relocating displaced Palestinians in war-torn Gaza, and suggested the U.S. take “ownership” of the Gaza Strip. He also said he was not ruling out deploying U.S. troops to aid in the area’s redevelopment.

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Ping Tung

(4,080 posts)
13. "Moderation in temper is always a virtue, but moderation in principle is always a vice" Thomas Paine
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 11:59 AM
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Emile

(39,505 posts)
6. Fetterman campaigned as a progressive and bent the knee to Trump Immediately
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 07:54 AM
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Last edited Fri Nov 21, 2025, 09:55 AM - Edit history (1)

after being elected. No matter how you spin it, he didn't win in Pennsylvania for being center right!

Ilsa

(63,653 posts)
26. Everything I've seen on him over the last
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 03:25 PM
Friday

few years tells me his judgment is superficial or poor.

And I appreciate a professional dress code. I think his manner of attire reflects his attitude towards his job.

thebigidea

(13,553 posts)
41. Not really. His record and policies weren't super progressive. Activists just liked his wife and Bernie vouched for him
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 05:41 PM
Friday

so immediately Lamb was the "corporate neoliberal shill" and somehow Fetterman was progressive in comparison

Autumn

(48,687 posts)
7. Fetterman is a damn good fit for republicans. Not a good fit at all for Democrats.
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 09:33 AM
Friday

Where does he fit for you?

muriel_volestrangler

(105,289 posts)
8. He's more popular with Republicans than with either Independents or Democrats
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 10:00 AM
Friday
However, the poll found that more Republicans than Democrats approve of how Fetterman was handling his job. This comes as Fetterman has frequently criticized his own party and bucked Democratic leadership in key votes, including voting for the GOP-led spending bill earlier this week.
...
The new poll found that 62% of Republicans approved of Fetterman’s job performance while 21% disapproved. In contrast, 54% of Democrats disapproved of Fetterman while 33% approved.

Independents are evenly split, with 43 percent approving and 43 percent disapproving.

https://www.nj.com/politics/2025/10/dem-senator-in-key-swing-state-has-had-a-stunning-reversal-in-popularity-new-poll-shows.html

Strange person to "love". Then again, he thinks calling people "woke" is a valid criticism, and I've read your profile, so maybe you are a good fit for him.

Scrivener7

(57,968 posts)
10. And yet, his constituents bought zero copies of his books. Not a good fit at all, apparently.
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 10:02 AM
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mr715

(2,440 posts)
23. I think it implies a desire towards incrementalism, centrism
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 02:49 PM
Friday

It isn't bad, per se. But it is a weird choice of thing to virtue signal here.

Autumn

(48,687 posts)
32. "wokester" is an informal, often derogatory, term used to describe
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 04:14 PM
Friday

e person perceived as excessively or performatively "woke," particularly with regard to social justice issues.

mr715

(2,440 posts)
33. Yes, this is what I am saying.
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 04:17 PM
Friday

The member is new here though, and so let us allow a certain amount of grace.

I would advise that, even though we are a big tent, we avoid broadcasting edgelord terminology.

Cha

(316,059 posts)
4. Wonder if Fetteman ever has any
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 03:27 AM
Friday

self reflection on maybe Just Maybe he chose the wrong path to support that Traitor more than The Dem Party?

TY, Cat

themaguffin

(4,875 posts)
12. Yep, there is no base for him anymore. He scammed people and he's politically done beyond his term
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 11:55 AM
Friday

gulliver

(13,662 posts)
17. Here we go again with the Manchin, Sinema pattern.
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 01:19 PM
Friday

Someday, we'll learn. This post is not unusual around here, so my comments are not directed at this post but to all those with the same attitude.

It should be obvious that Fetterman absolutely needs to be moderate in a key purple swing state, Pennsylvania. We just seem to want to keep cutting off our noses to spite our face. SMH. We need to win elections.

Fetterman identifies as a Democrat, a member of the Democratic Party. To me, that puts him miles above anyone who doesn't. Cough, Bernie and Zohran, cough. I want to see our party strong. If we're going to be a big tent, I'd much rather have more fully-committed, moderate Democrats (like Spanberger and Sherrill most recently). Democratic Socialists, for example, are welcome to caucus and vote with us. But they are a different party, and we should remember that.

gulliver

(13,662 posts)
19. Doesn't matter one bit to me.
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 01:34 PM
Friday

He's elected. He's a Democrat. He has explained his positions fully. He's in a purple swing state. As a democracy-supporting Democrat, it's just a no-brainer to support him. Leave simple Democratic loyalty aside (which I don't, frankly). People who consider themselves "left wing and progressive" should really think hard and make sure that's what they are, because crapping on Fetterman weakens the Democratic Party and the left.

It's a democracy. Not everyone gets what they want. But you don't screw over your own team.

gulliver

(13,662 posts)
25. He has standing in the team due to his democratic election.
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 03:17 PM
Friday

That election means that voters chose him(although, random, self-appointed folks who call themselves "left" or "progressive" might have whatever opinion of him they might have). By that democratically elected criterion, Fetterman's position for determining what is and isn't good team play wins hands down. No comparison. Fetterman is "real apples." His self-appointed critics and putter-downers are "natural apple flavoring," regardless of their self-identification.

Mad_Machine76

(24,926 posts)
48. Are you suggesting
Thu Nov 27, 2025, 10:06 PM
20 hrs ago

That nobody can criticize him because he got elected? I mean, breaking with his fellow Democrats once in a while on a particular issue is one thing and is completely fine and appropriate when it is in service to his constituents, but what he, Manchin, and Sinema have done/are doing is more like giving aid and comfort to the other team, by actively bad-mouthing his own party on several occasions is a completely different thing IMHO. Numerically, we need him to be on our side so that we can win the Senate back eventually, but a lot of what he has been doing this past year seems to be more helpful for Trump/GOP than for his own political party.

Incanus

(180 posts)
20. There is no Democratic Socialist party in the US.
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 01:41 PM
Friday

Mayor Elect Zohran Mamdani and Congresswoman AOC don't just "caucus with Democrats", they *are* Democrats. Their political philosophy is democractic socialism but they are just as much Democrats as anyone else with a D behind their name.

gulliver

(13,662 posts)
24. I heard on NPR this morning that Mamdani "identifies as a Democratic Socialist"
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 03:13 PM
Friday

I'm not a fan of the idea that we, in the Democratic Party, can include someone who doesn't identify as a Democrat as being a member of the party. It should be obvious that identifying as a "Democratic Socialist" sounds a lot like "not being a Democrat" to voters, and confuses our trademark, imo. It makes it sound like being a Democrat is not good enough for them or that they are, in fact, considering themselves a party, if nascent. It weakens our party and, imo, the left, badly.

AOC seems to identify as a Democrat. Bernie doesn't.

Incanus

(180 posts)
27. Mamdani is a Democrat, he was elected twice as a Democrat.
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 03:27 PM
Friday

He is a member of the Democratic party regardless of your feelings and claiming otherwise is deliberately deceitful and imo that kind of divisiveness weakens the party.

gulliver

(13,662 posts)
35. He was elected as a Democrat but identifies as a Democratic Socialist
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 04:30 PM
Friday

Think what that would mean to you if her were elected as a Democrat but identified as a Republican. He was elected as a Democrat, and, imo of course, it is his duty to our party to identify as a Democrat. It weakens our party and the values it supports for him not to accept our party by its name. I really don't see how it isn't obvious. He disses us when he won't say our name. I feel it just as much as when the Republicans call us the "Democrat Party."

It's also deceptive to voters. They may think that Democratic Socialist is a different party and, indeed, it gives a scent of wanting to splinter off or not share credit with the Democratic Party whose entire apparatus he used to be elected.

Incanus

(180 posts)
36. Lol, sure. You said he belonged to a different party
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 04:36 PM
Friday

But Zohran's the one being deceptive here.

Democratic Socialists, for example, are welcome to caucus and vote with us. But they are a different party, and we should remember that.


I also read this somewhere:

He's elected. He's a Democrat. He has explained his positions fully....

As a democracy-supporting Democrat, it's just a no-brainer to support him.


Well said!

gulliver

(13,662 posts)
37. Thanks. I take "lols" as concession.
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 04:49 PM
Friday

I did think of the Democratic Socialists as a separate party, and that's the way it comes across to me. When I hear on NPR that Zohran identifies as a Democratic Socialist, I hear him not saying he's a Democrat.

Incanus

(180 posts)
38. And I'll take your admission that you were wrong as concession.
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 05:09 PM
Friday

How one interprets what they hear is subjective and certainly not a good reason to malign elected Democrats, especially when they're as popular as Mayor Elect Mamdani. Like him or not he energized thousands of voters and they carried him to victory, that's pretty amazing considering he started out with 1% support. Hopefully he'll be welcomed and accepted by other party members the way AOC was, they do have a lot in common. Not to mention his handling of Trump today made him even more of a rockstar, we need all the wins we can get.

gulliver

(13,662 posts)
39. It's not maligning someone to not deify them.
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 05:25 PM
Friday

He was up against Cuomo, and Sliwa was a spoiler.

Mamdani has a long way to go before he can be considered tested. I don't really know what is better for the Democratic Party, for him to emphasize he is a Democrat or for him to keep saying he's a "democratic socialist," leaving it up to the individual to hear it as a "separate group like a party" or just a philosophy.

I'm not sure why Trump liking Mamdani makes some of Mamdani's supporters happy and think he is a rockstar. I think if Trump had hated Mamdani after the meeting or they had openly shown dislike, Mamdani's supporters would still think he is a rockstar (maybe even more of one).

Incanus

(180 posts)
42. No one deifies Mamdani, he has charisma and talent and solidly won his race.
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 05:43 PM
Friday

I don't see how dismissing his accomplishment is helpful, especially today. It's not just his supporters who appreciated the optics, he walked into the White House and basically called Trump a fascist to his face. His critics expected Trump to humiliate the young Mayor Elect but this happened instead:

Find someone who looks at you the way Donald Trump looks at Zohran Mamdani.

Qasim Rashid, Esq. (@qasimrashid.com) 2025-11-21T21:30:07.439Z


This was another win, Mamdani still has to prove he can do the job but continuing to attack him and his supporters is a mistake. If this tent is big enough for Fetterman why would it exclude the Democratic Mayor Elect of NYC and his supporters?

gulliver

(13,662 posts)
44. The tent is most certainly big enough for Fetterman and Mamdani
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 06:06 PM
Friday

Fetterman is in statewide office in a purple swing state. Mamdani is in office in the largest liberal city in the country. They both have their lanes, best I can tell. We're not going to agree on everything. No one should feel "maligned" or "attacked" or "excluded." It's too much.

Incanus

(180 posts)
45. We can agree to agree then.
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 06:10 PM
Friday

Democrats need every vote they can get from both ends of the political spectrum, no one should feel like they're being pushed away.

Good night to you.

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