WTF is going on?

[videohead5]

The peace deal that Trump is pushing is a wish list that Russia leaked according to Secretary Rubio. This has got to be the biggest bunch of idiots I have ever seen running the federal government. Why is Trump pushing Zelenskyy to sign a Russian wish list? Trump does not know his ass from a hole in the ground!

[Big Blue Marble]

1. From what I am reading, looks like JD Vance and his faction is behind this fiasco.

Lots of infighting in the WH, maybe going behind Trump. Smells a bit like
Iran-Contra even to point JD is doing a little premature presidententing.

[Jack Valentino]

27. Vance got 'too excited' after seeing

a Russian couch........... !

[Upjumpdadebil]

50. Thnx 4 iran/Contra memory....here's Update

....Oliver North & Fawn Hall his former Secretary [ "accomplice" ] just got married!!!

The circle is completed

[usonian]

2. At one of my stations, cadets woud play catch with loaded mousetraps.

That seems to be what's going on these days, where the mousetraps are nukes.

Insane stuff. Looking for tin foil to wear.

[Walleye]

3. He's doing everything Putin tells him to do

He admires Putin for his wealth and his body count

[spooky3]

18. He is financially dependent on Putin. Nt

[ananda]

40. Also, I'm sure Putin has Kompromat on Trump.

Trump is definitely his bitch.

[Cha]

19. Also, I'm thinking Putn has Epstein Evidence...

Why not. : Not that he wouldn't do it without being Extorted.

[summer_in_TX]

21. Epstein wrote to Putin about Trump.

Fairly sure on a regular basis.

[Cha]

22. TY.. Exactly what I was basing it on.

:storm

[MadameButterfly]

36. What was Epstein's motivation for collluding with Putin?

Anyone know what was behind that?

[Walleye]

38. Just a guess, money

[czarjak]

48. Follow The Moola?

[FakeNoose]

58. For one thing, a few Russian banks were laundering money for Epstein

Also I believe Epstein was an investment counselor for several oligarchs who wanted to buy US properties, stocks, and other investments. Epstein helped them navigate the financial waters, for a large fee of course.

It might have been Epstein who set up the oligarchs to buy the overpriced condos in the Chump family hotels. The oligarchs couldn't buy directly in their own names, they had to set up dummy Delaware corporations with American-sounding names like "ABC Investments Inc." in which they were the sole owners. That's how they purchased properties, US stocks and securities, etc.

[MadameButterfly]

59. Maybe Delaware needs to clean up its act

A Blue state helping facilitate the fall of Democracy

[OAITW r.2.0]

26. I think less admiration and more total fear of Kompromat.

Putin had Trump figured out in the early 80s.

[MadameButterfly]

37. I wonder if Trump knows how the Russain economy is going

or what Putin has to do to protect himself from assassination

[sheshe2]

4. If he only had a brain. 😱

[KS Toronado]

6. Never has, never will

Even the scarecrow had one.

[sheshe2]

7. That's the truth, KS.

[HighFired49]

42. Maybe a good thing

If he was smart, we would probably all be dead. Democrats, ya know. And, would probably be at war with half the free world.

[struggle4progress]

5. They're just hoping for pay-offs from the Russian mafia

[dcweed]

8. Respectfully disagree

I think the Orange One does know what he's doing.
He is condemning the Ukrainian people, and their country, to a slow death.
In return he gets the approval of Putin.
It's that simple.
One man's ego over a democratic nation of 41 million.

[NEOBuckeye]

11. Putin needs to go

Fuck that little KGB shit.

[MadameButterfly]

39. Nuclear weapons have to go

Somehow. Without them the world wouldn't have let him get away with everything he does. Demagogues use the blackmail of nuclear threat to get away with atrocities. And now we know that the US is not immune from such a demagogue.

[Warpy]

9. He wants a big shiny peace deal before hs first year is up

and he knows Putin is so nucking futz he won't accept anything but surrender.

Fatso's noy getting it because Congress is not going to allow him to get this one.

[Sneederbunk]

10. Russia may own Krasnov, but it can't make him smart.

[Takket]

12. this is looknig like an absolute disaster............ russia literally planted a peace position as US policy........

This is grounds for immediate removal from office.

I'm skeptical that Trump's make Ukraine surrender plan wasn't real.

Trump envoy Witkoff negotiated it, details and threats to Ukraine were public for multiple days, and Rubio didn't dispute it then, only after the plan got a bad reception and rejected by Europe.

Look like attempting to save face.

— Nicholas Grossman (@nicholasgrossman.bsky.social) 2025-11-22T23:46:44.710Z

The plan was leaked by the Russians and no one in America’s historically inept administration knew what anyone else was doing so people started getting behind it because they thought it was official policy.

Putin totally played the US, knowing full well he was up against incompetents and idiots.

— Mark Chadbourn (@chadbourn.bsky.social) 2025-11-22T23:15:03.423Z

[OAITW r.2.0]

28. Mr. Chadbourn's post is fucking scary.

USA, led by a stupid, criminal pResident, is leading a bunch of equally stupid people making/reacting to real-time world events. God help us.

[Beartracks]

33. And Republicans are either too stupid, too complicit or too weak to rein it in. n/t

[Bread and Circuses]

13. Because the entire Republican Party are bought and paid for

[ToxMarz]

14. I don't think it's just a Russian wishlist

No doubt the last paragraph of the 'peace plan' says "I, Volodymyr Zelenskyy, do hereby nominate Donald J. Trump for the Nobel Peace".

[James48]

15. Simple- Trump only works for Putin.

Or himself. Nothing else matters.

Whatever Putin has on Donny is big.

[Emrys]

16. Fucked if I know, but Rubio tweeted this an hour ago:

Marco Rubio
@marcorubio

The peace proposal was authored by the U.S.

It is offered as a strong framework for ongoing negotiations

It is based on input from the Russian side. But it is also based on previous and ongoing input from Ukraine.

Marco Rubio
@marcorubio

Ending a complex and deadly war such as the one in Ukraine requires an extensive exchange of serious and realistic ideas. And achieving a durable peace will require both sides to agree to difficult but necessary concessions. That is why we are and will continue to develop a list of potential ideas for ending this war based on input from both sides of this conflict.

Maybe this was all a bad dream of somebody's,

[SaydiTom]

17. I thought I heard today the document has telltale signs of being translated using Google

translate from Russian to English. I listened to a bunch of podcasts today. Can't remember where I heard that.

[Emrys]

25. What I saw was analysis of phrases in certain points that seemed as if they were translations from Russian,

not the whole document, but I think a few different people have had a go at it, including trying to use Grok etc., FWIW. That's assuming we're talking about the same version, of course, because there was word of at least two different ones going round.

I didn't post Rubio's tweet to shut anything down - it's more to show that the chaos is continuing, and somebody must be telling lies.

[Amaryllis]

20. No way this is true:

But it is also based on previous and ongoing input from Ukraine.

[Wiz Imp]

23. "But it is also based on previous and ongoing input from Ukraine."

We just happened to know that our Masters in Russia won't agree with any of the Ukraine input so we ignored it altogether...

[ColoringFool]

24. "Dear Marco, If Russia Leaves, Peace Arrives. Thank You. Signed,....

Ukraine. 😚"

[OAITW r.2.0]

29. Fuck Rubio. Secretary of State? Nah, Secretary of Sore Mouth Disorders.

[czarjak]

49. Cuban refugee descendant said what?

You can't make this crap up because they do it 4-U!

[Nictuku]

30. I couldn't agree more. Someone must have offered him money.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

31. This plan was a Russian/Putin wishlist

Link to tweet

?s=20

[Emrys]

32. Rubio has since tweeted denying that is the case

See my reply upthread.

[JT45242]

34. Is that a serious question. Why would the felon push the Russian wish list...asset since 80s

Mango Mussolini has been a Russian asset and money launderer for 4 decades.
Seriously, why would anyone be surprised by this.

[whyzayker]

35. Ukrainian Yard Sale......

……masquerading as a “peace deal.”

[SupportSanity]

41. Lest we forget: Follow the rubles.

Russia has always been in play with Trump. One way or the other.

They may not be in the forefront of news right now, but they are still in play.

[MissouriDem47]

43. It Makes Sense

When you reach the conclusion that TACO is a Russian agent.

[dlk]

44. What was your first clue...?

n/t

[ZDU]

45. The Big Orange Piggy is a Russian ASSet

[Beowulf42]

46. Not News.

Nothing about Trump not knowing his has from a hole in the ground is news. He is uninformed and willfully ignorant because that is exactly what he is in the first place and deep down in the deepest pit of his hollow-ass soul. And we've got him for the next 3 1/4 years.

[creeksneakers2]

47. Trump and the GOP are making a big deal about

the Trump Russia investigation. But it looks more and more like there is a secret alliance.

[live love laugh]

51. To say he doesn't know is to excuse him. He knows that he's doing Putin's bidding.

[Lovie777]

52. The WH is telling Pres Z he better take it.......................

or completely lose the USA support. WTF.

Meanwhile, the WH sent the USA military to invade a Mexican beach, only to be quelled and turn back by the Mexican Marines.

Building up in the Caribbean of full force USA military re: attacking Valenzuela.

Sending Musk to Greenland.

Threatening to jail and execute Democrats. Fucking up ACA subsides. Taking away from Department of Education degrees. i.e. nurses.

Screwed up the indictment of Comey. Indicting Democrats over property fraud.

The list goes on and on.

[viva la]

53. Rubio has also said that it was OUR plan.

Then he said it wasn't.
He used to be thought of as intelligent.

[vapor2]

54. Trump knew exactly what he is doing or rubio bypassed trump.

I think many minions are just doing their own fucking thing

[iemanja]

55. Comrade Krasnov is following orders.

[Skittles]

56. ?

Trump is Putin's puppet - it's not hard to figure out

[Iggo]

57. Whaddaya mean, Why? Because Trump works for Putin. That's why.