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Haggard Celine

(17,606 posts)
Sun Nov 23, 2025, 03:13 AM Nov 23

Dementia Is Everywhere.

I meet my parents once a week for lunch and they're telling me every time about someone in the family or a friend who has dementia and/or Alzheimer's. I don't remember this from my childhood or even 20 years ago. What is going on? And they aren't all old, either. Is Alzheimer's a prion disease? Could we be ingesting something that's causing this? How much more of this are we going to see?

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Dementia Is Everywhere. (Original Post) Haggard Celine Nov 23 OP
The biggest risk factor Coldwater Nov 23 #1
A close friend of mine was diagnosed at 64. Demobrat Nov 23 #2
Alcohol and smoking Coldwater Nov 23 #4
My mother died of Alzheimer's BeerBarrelPolka Nov 23 #6
My mother succumbed to Alzheimers Mossfern Nov 23 #20
Sorry for your loss BeerBarrelPolka Nov 23 #21
Just to add regarding my mother .... Mossfern Nov 23 #22
My mom went through all the stages BeerBarrelPolka Nov 23 #23
I had an Rebl2 Nov 23 #24
Dr. Michael Macken BeerBarrelPolka Nov 23 #25
Alzheimer's Disease Genetics Fact Sheet ...National Institute on Aging NotHardly Nov 23 #29
Agreed Mossfern Nov 23 #43
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 23 #14
It might just be my perception or paranoia tavernier Nov 23 #3
I think you covered NJCher Nov 23 #9
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 23 #16
We all have microplastics in our brain. Ziggysmom Nov 23 #5
That's interesting, thanks for the link. Haggard Celine Nov 23 #38
Senile BeerBarrelPolka Nov 23 #7
Age and experiences ScotLass Nov 23 #8
Imagine if we had a government evemac Nov 23 #10
My grandmother had dementia in the 1970s Norbert Nov 23 #11
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 23 #15
Diabetes Blue Full Moon Nov 23 #12
So it is a prion disease. Haggard Celine Nov 23 #40
They have made great strides with treatment. Blue Full Moon Nov 23 #41
Post removed Post removed Nov 23 #13
It's a combination of people living longer and the people you pay attention to being older. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 23 #17
Yup, you notice it a lot more when you are in the demographic GoCubsGo Nov 23 #42
We live in a toxic soup. And it shows. Irish_Dem Nov 23 #18
A friend's dog started moonscape Nov 23 #19
My cat was about 14 years old when she started attacking me leaving me bloody. There was no way to stop her. Walleye Nov 23 #26
My grandmother had Alzheimer's at least 50 years ago before they even had a name for it Walleye Nov 23 #27
The YouTube real medical doctors have convinced me bucolic_frolic Nov 23 #28
Just speculation. Correlation does not equal causality. NoRethugFriends Nov 23 #30
Just pure smack based on ignorance. I'll listen to the doctors, not you. bucolic_frolic Nov 23 #31
. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 23 #32
IT IS DIET AND ENVIRONMENT. AND PLASTICS. Iwasthere Nov 23 #33
Boomers' great grandparents often died in their late 50s to early 60s, Many more very old people now. hedda_foil Nov 23 #34
One of my great grandmothers who lived an almost idyllic rural life in a clean environment... hunter Nov 23 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Nov 23 #39
Dementia is actually declining as a percentage of old people who have it DavidDvorkin Nov 23 #35
I'm hardly ever around any young people. Haggard Celine Nov 23 #37

Coldwater

(718 posts)
1. The biggest risk factor
Sun Nov 23, 2025, 03:51 AM
Nov 23

seems to be age, with people living longer and in many cases into their late 70s, 80, and 90s dementia has become more common.



Demobrat

(10,249 posts)
2. A close friend of mine was diagnosed at 64.
Sun Nov 23, 2025, 04:00 AM
Nov 23

She’s been a pretty heavy drinker throughout her life. No idea if there’s a connection or not, since her mother had it. Could be hereditary too.

BeerBarrelPolka

(2,173 posts)
6. My mother died of Alzheimer's
Sun Nov 23, 2025, 05:11 AM
Nov 23

I have memory issues from concussions when I boxed and wrestled. I asked one of my neurologists if Alzheimer's is hereditary and he said it is not. He said at best I would have a 1% greater risk, so that is considered insignificant.

Mossfern

(4,564 posts)
20. My mother succumbed to Alzheimers
Sun Nov 23, 2025, 09:28 AM
Nov 23

I participated in a study that took people who carry the APOE4 gene that many Alzheimer's sufferers have. I have only one of the set of two genes. There are those researchers who do indeed consider it hereditary. To be clear, they informed participants that if they do indeed carry the gene, that is does not necessarily mean that the carrier will have Alzheimer's - just that there's a correlation, not a causation...maybe.

After numerous cognitive tests - a little more rigorous than the ones than Trump took, regular blood tests urine tests,, MRI of brain, PT scan of brain. I was released from the study because I showed no trace of Alzheimer's. That doesn't mean that I won't develop it in the future. My mom was diagnosed in her mid 80's. I'm *only* 77. My grandfather had some sort of dementia that started in his 90's, but he had Parkinson's disease for decades by then and lived till his late 90's - didn't quite make it to 100.

BeerBarrelPolka

(2,173 posts)
21. Sorry for your loss
Sun Nov 23, 2025, 09:50 AM
Nov 23

My doctor is who I have to follow. He's top of his field in this regards to this, so I'm sticking to his word. Either way for me I don't care. I have irreversible memory loss so I'm just as bad as Alzheimer's, as mine will progress as well.

Mossfern

(4,564 posts)
22. Just to add regarding my mother ....
Sun Nov 23, 2025, 10:02 AM
Nov 23

She was jolly and fun until the very end at 89 years old.
A little strange, indeed, but fun to be around as we accepted her as she was.

Yes, sometimes a bit frustrating as she loved to pull the fire alarm in her facility, just to see the "handsome young firemen" enter the building and other mischievous behavior. But hell, wouldn't anyone love to be so uninhibited? She developed false memories of being Italian, and greeted us as her "paisans". What a trip.

BeerBarrelPolka

(2,173 posts)
23. My mom went through all the stages
Sun Nov 23, 2025, 10:47 AM
Nov 23

Violent, quiet, depressed, but never happy. I took her car once to rush to pick up her meds. On the way home I was stopped by the cops and told to come out of the car with my hands up (it was a convertible). She reported the car stolen. I showed the cop my address and the meds and he shook his head and we laughed. He followed me home to make sure she was ok.

Lot's of bad memories like her setting the house on fire (that was the last straw). She died at 83 years of age.

Rebl2

(17,249 posts)
24. I had an
Sun Nov 23, 2025, 10:55 AM
Nov 23

Aunt that had it as well as her sister and their mother. Now my cousin has it. Hard for me to believe it isn’t hereditary.

NotHardly

(2,382 posts)
29. Alzheimer's Disease Genetics Fact Sheet ...National Institute on Aging
Sun Nov 23, 2025, 11:49 AM
Nov 23

Genes and Alzheimer's disease
If My Parent Has Alzheimer's, Will I Have it Too? Infographic. Click to open page and access pdf
Share this infographic and help spread the word about Alzheimer's genetics.
In most cases, Alzheimer’s does not have a single genetic cause. Instead, it can be influenced by multiple genes in combination with lifestyle and environmental factors. Consequently, a person may carry more than one genetic variant or group of variants that can either increase or reduce the risk of Alzheimer’s.

Importantly, people who develop Alzheimer’s do not always have a history of the disease in their families. Still, those who have a parent or sibling diagnosed with the disease have a higher risk of developing Alzheimer’s than those without that association.

Genetic variants that affect Alzheimer's disease risk
In 2010, we knew of just 10 genetic areas associated with Alzheimer’s. Today, thanks in large part to the work of NIH-funded researchers, we know of at least 80 genetic areas associated with this disease. Understanding which genes play a role — and what role they play — may help identify new methods to prevent, delay, or treat dementia.

One well-known gene that influences Alzheimer’s risk is the apolipoprotein E (APOE) gene. The APOE gene is involved in making a protein that helps carry cholesterol and other types of fat in the bloodstream. Problems in this process are thought to contribute to the development of Alzheimer’s. APOE comes in several forms, called alleles (e.g., ε2, ε3).

Mossfern

(4,564 posts)
43. Agreed
Sun Nov 23, 2025, 07:30 PM
Nov 23

I carry 1 APOE4 gene. I probably got it from my mother who did indeed have Alzheimer's.

Considering that I also have PTSD-C, ADHD and am a bit on the spectrum in my mental soup, the resulting idiosyncrasies make any diagnosis difficult.

I have had a terrible memory from early childhood, but my family and friends find that "charming and lovable."
Go figure.

Research on this devastating disease has yet to pin down any precise cause.
Some of us feel like ticking time bombs.

Response to Demobrat (Reply #2)

tavernier

(14,138 posts)
3. It might just be my perception or paranoia
Sun Nov 23, 2025, 04:02 AM
Nov 23

But I think people are acting either more demented or just plain weirder and meaner since Covid. Of course Trump has exacerbated all of our emotions. So who knows what the root cause is, but I agree. Things are different.

NJCher

(42,141 posts)
9. I think you covered
Sun Nov 23, 2025, 06:03 AM
Nov 23

The bases in this brief post.

I remember when Obama won the presidency. It seemed to crack the glass ceiling. We knew black leaders had no limits.

Conversely, when a cretin like trump cheats his way into the presidency and its subsequent visibility, the sheer awareness of pettiness and utter stupidity in daily life makes it more common.



Response to tavernier (Reply #3)

Haggard Celine

(17,606 posts)
38. That's interesting, thanks for the link.
Sun Nov 23, 2025, 05:07 PM
Nov 23

The article says plastic production doubles every 10-15 years. That's insane! I hope they're working on an alternative to plastics. We need to stop using them as much as possible.

BeerBarrelPolka

(2,173 posts)
7. Senile
Sun Nov 23, 2025, 05:13 AM
Nov 23

It existed when I was a kid (I'm 61) and the folks were called senile. Just like dropsy is never mentioned by that name anymore.

ScotLass

(28 posts)
8. Age and experiences
Sun Nov 23, 2025, 05:45 AM
Nov 23

As we age ourselves we become much more aware of this Diagnosis, add to this Elderly parents, my own father now lives in a dementia unit and I now have 3 years experience of a ring side view of all the wonderful people in that unit who have come and gone in that time, People from all backgrounds, professional sports stars, every work profession and station in life, this disease does not discriminate much more research needs to be done, we need to stop thinking of it as a disease of the very elderly and look at preventing / controlling this condition in the early stages and make the current generation the last to be affected.

evemac

(256 posts)
10. Imagine if we had a government
Sun Nov 23, 2025, 06:20 AM
Nov 23

That used money for research and development on causality and innovative medications for dementia instead of on the military.

Norbert

(7,494 posts)
11. My grandmother had dementia in the 1970s
Sun Nov 23, 2025, 06:22 AM
Nov 23

It might well have been Alzheimer's but I'm not sure and I will never know. Back then I had never heard of Alzheimer's Disease. The doctors thought her problem may have been hardening of the arteries to the brain. She was never violent. For a time she thought she was a pre-teen girl which I honestly thought she was going back to a happy time in her life. Who knows? Even a brain in the throws of dementia is a complicated thing.

Response to Norbert (Reply #11)

Haggard Celine

(17,606 posts)
40. So it is a prion disease.
Sun Nov 23, 2025, 05:15 PM
Nov 23

We have them in our food. I don't think they did enough testing of cattle back during the big Mad Cow outbreak. We're all going to get dementia and roam around like zombies. Okay, maybe it won't be that bad, but it's scary. I hope if I get Alzheimer's that I'm not really aware of my condition. It would be a horror to watch myself descend into madness.

Blue Full Moon

(3,049 posts)
41. They have made great strides with treatment.
Sun Nov 23, 2025, 06:57 PM
Nov 23

Best diabetes diet no beef. Because of the sugars it breaks down into.

Response to Haggard Celine (Original post)

GoCubsGo

(34,592 posts)
42. Yup, you notice it a lot more when you are in the demographic
Sun Nov 23, 2025, 07:06 PM
Nov 23

where dementia and Alzheimer's tend to set in. If you or your parents are in their late 60s or older, odds are that you and they will have a lot more peers with it than 20 years ago.

Irish_Dem

(78,483 posts)
18. We live in a toxic soup. And it shows.
Sun Nov 23, 2025, 08:31 AM
Nov 23

Children and older people with neurological problems.
More younger people with cancer diagnoses.

moonscape

(5,617 posts)
19. A friend's dog started
Sun Nov 23, 2025, 08:41 AM
Nov 23

barking and howling in the evening and it goes on all night. Turned out she has dementia and it’s Sundowners! My friend is exhausted, can’t sleep and heartbroken. She has tried tranquilizers the vet prescribed, then CBD - nothing has worked.

Walleye

(43,436 posts)
26. My cat was about 14 years old when she started attacking me leaving me bloody. There was no way to stop her.
Sun Nov 23, 2025, 11:03 AM
Nov 23

She had dementia

Walleye

(43,436 posts)
27. My grandmother had Alzheimer's at least 50 years ago before they even had a name for it
Sun Nov 23, 2025, 11:05 AM
Nov 23

My uncle, her son, got Alzheimer’s in his 80s. He was very fit throughout his life, and he didn’t get it nearly as bad as my grandmother who was agitated and confused all the time, she died of it.

bucolic_frolic

(53,504 posts)
28. The YouTube real medical doctors have convinced me
Sun Nov 23, 2025, 11:08 AM
Nov 23

the roots of obesity, diabetes, aging, dementia, and cancer all begin with the same root. These are metabolic diseases that begin with sugar and carbohydrates, starches and near sugars in our diet, and seed oils. We were hardly ingesting this stuff in 1880, and now we have fruit, snacks, fried food year round. Ice cream can hardly be found without gums, stretchers, additives, fructose. Sodas are a chemical blend.

Dr. Berg, Dr. Boz, RemissionSupport, Dr. Jamnadas. They're doing more for me than any local charlatans.

NoRethugFriends

(3,627 posts)
30. Just speculation. Correlation does not equal causality.
Sun Nov 23, 2025, 11:55 AM
Nov 23

Funny that you allegedly eschew charlatans, but then use the ones you name.

bucolic_frolic

(53,504 posts)
31. Just pure smack based on ignorance. I'll listen to the doctors, not you.
Sun Nov 23, 2025, 12:43 PM
Nov 23

I doubt you even listened to the evidence if only because there was no time for you to watch it before you rejected it.

WhiskeyGrinder

(26,061 posts)
32. .
Sun Nov 23, 2025, 12:48 PM
Nov 23
We were hardly ingesting this stuff in 1880,
What stuff? Carbohydrates? Sugar? Oil? c'mon now

Iwasthere

(3,451 posts)
33. IT IS DIET AND ENVIRONMENT. AND PLASTICS.
Sun Nov 23, 2025, 12:52 PM
Nov 23

Low quality, processed junk foods.Eat only high quality grass fed meats and organic vegetables free of chemicals (if they have to wear hasmat suits to spray crops then you should avoid).

Stay 100% away from nasty chemicals of all kinds. Replace your chemical laden lawn with vegetable gardens. Hygiene products are another threat to our brains (aluminum).

It's not rocket science. Common sense.

Live like your great grandparents did with whole clean foods and environment.

hedda_foil

(16,877 posts)
34. Boomers' great grandparents often died in their late 50s to early 60s, Many more very old people now.
Sun Nov 23, 2025, 12:59 PM
Nov 23

hunter

(40,260 posts)
36. One of my great grandmothers who lived an almost idyllic rural life in a clean environment...
Sun Nov 23, 2025, 03:11 PM
Nov 23

... and ate all natural foods became a danger to herself and others when her brain started to fail in her mid eighties.

At first it was small things but soon her family had to take away her car and guns and knives. Then they had to watch her 24/7 so she wouldn't wander off. Etc..

My mom mostly shielded me and my siblings from all of that, so I remember my great grandmother as a bright, cheerful, strong, practical woman who didn't take shit from anyone.

It must have been horrible for everyone to watch her fade away.

Response to Iwasthere (Reply #33)

DavidDvorkin

(20,453 posts)
35. Dementia is actually declining as a percentage of old people who have it
Sun Nov 23, 2025, 02:39 PM
Nov 23

But the number of old people is increasing so rapidly that the number of dementia cases is increasing.

Haggard Celine

(17,606 posts)
37. I'm hardly ever around any young people.
Sun Nov 23, 2025, 03:21 PM
Nov 23

So I am hearing about older people from my parents. But some of these people are rather young, younger than me, and I'm 56. Maybe my perception is skewed, but it's scary because I wonder how much people with dementia are aware of their situation. I sure hope they're oblivious to it.

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