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TheRickles

(3,100 posts)
1. Interesting, but the increases pretty much parallel the size of the city.
Sun Nov 23, 2025, 07:20 AM
Nov 23

A chart showing per capita rates (ie, new residents per 100k baseline population) would be even more interesting, to see if there are regions or cities that do proportionately even better. Still, this is good to know.

ProfessorGAC

(75,476 posts)
21. If That
Sun Nov 23, 2025, 03:05 PM
Nov 23

700k move to NYC; 84,600 move to Colorado Springs.
Population NYC,~8.5 million; Colorado Springs 478,000.
So, 8x more people moving into a city 16 times the size.
This graph isn't quite sending the message the authors think it's sending.

sop

(17,075 posts)
16. If they included non-Americans, Miami and Tampa would likely be on that list.
Sun Nov 23, 2025, 10:28 AM
Nov 23

International migration, fueled by political and economic instability in other countries, has been driving population growth in both cities.

NCDem47

(3,262 posts)
17. But not as high as they would have been 3-5 years ago.
Sun Nov 23, 2025, 10:56 AM
Nov 23

The word is out on Florida: it's darling COVID days are looooong gone.

Overcrowded
Sky high insurance (home, auto, heath)--among the highest in the country
Ridiculous housing and utility costs
Low wages
At the end of the day, terribly dependent on a fickle tourism and hospitality industry
For six months of the year under constant threat of hurricane annihilation
Dreadful public eduaction
Oppressive statewide politics run ONLY by Republicans

..and I LIVE HERE! Trust me, my wheels are spinning on an escape plan

Old Crank

(6,510 posts)
4. People gravtate to jobs
Sun Nov 23, 2025, 08:26 AM
Nov 23

And opportunity. No real surprise there. But it does puncture the MAGA narrative. Especially the in-state numbers.

Aristus

(71,411 posts)
7. Of course.
Sun Nov 23, 2025, 09:04 AM
Nov 23

Who the hell wants to live in East Cornpone, Arkassippi? Where there’s no work, and the pastimes are getting drunk, cooking meth, and shooting yourself in the foot while making manly masculine gun videos for YouTube.

IronLionZion

(50,506 posts)
8. So they're not fleeing liberals cities to escape socialism
Sun Nov 23, 2025, 09:07 AM
Nov 23

I enjoyed the threats of conservatives leaving. Bye! Don't come back!

LtTx

(38 posts)
10. Texas has 4 out of the top 10
Sun Nov 23, 2025, 09:21 AM
Nov 23

Texas cities are generally blue- and as a lifelong Texan (with stints in Ireland, England) one of those four cities are the only places I would live in Texas. But if WA had a comparable cost of living- I would be there tomorrow!

ananda

(34,147 posts)
11. Austin has been overcrowded for years.
Sun Nov 23, 2025, 09:26 AM
Nov 23

The way it's configured is not conducive
to over population.

They're trying to fix MoPac now, and it's
a right mess.

It reminds me of what happened in Houston
with the Gulf Freeway, which took many many
years to finish.

I've learned how to drive here, but it was a
process after a wreck and a bunch of tickets.

The weather is nice, though.

WinstonSmith4740

(3,405 posts)
12. Any data on where they're moving from??
Sun Nov 23, 2025, 09:32 AM
Nov 23

I can't imagine this country looks real inviting to folks in other countries, and I'm betting there's a brain and talent drain in red states and cities.

paleotn

(21,296 posts)
13. That's where the opportunity is. That's where the jobs are.
Sun Nov 23, 2025, 09:43 AM
Nov 23

Phoenix and Tucson still amaze me. A rapidly warming climate won't be kind to Arizona. It wasn't during the Medieval Warm Period when ancient Pueblo civilizations collapsed. And it won't be this time either. It's not just the massive influx of unsuspecting humans. Growing alfalfa, cotton and leafy greens in the AZ desert via massive ground water extraction? What could possibly go wrong?! Perhaps we shouldn't be too quick to condemn Iran for Tehran's water debacle.

https://www.earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/154567/arizonas-declining-groundwater
https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/arizona-is-losing-groundwater-an-alarming-rate-study-shows-21915906/
https://www.hcn.org/issues/57-10/the-dried-out-subdivisions-of-phoenix/

CTyankee

(67,666 posts)
14. I treasured my 35 years in New Haven, CT
Sun Nov 23, 2025, 09:47 AM
Nov 23

No connection to Yale, but to work in social services (where both hubby and I worked before retiring but still in CT). We greatly enjoyed the cultural life there and and felt comfortable as liberal Democrats. We now live in a retirement community near New Haven and enjoy the company of many other liberal Dems. My kids all live in blue cities (NYC, LA and Boston) and one grandkid is in Austin, TX.

hunter

(40,260 posts)
19. My children moved away to big cities...
Sun Nov 23, 2025, 02:39 PM
Nov 23

... even though they could have easily found good work here in our small, thoroughly Democratic city.

Many people move to big cities because they enjoy living in big cities, not because they are forced to.

My sister lives in the very rural South. She has neighbors who have never traveled further than the nearest WalMart, have never visited a large city, and truly believe big cities like Los Angeles, Chicago, San Francisco, and New York are very dangerous places that everyone is trying to escape from. They are convinced my sister is a refugee from an urban hellhole where innocent white people are likely to get caught up in the crossfire of gang warfare, or worse, because that's what they see on television or hear on the radio.



Nixie

(17,915 posts)
20. Ha! Fresno on the bottom. Nickname for Fresno is Fresneck.
Sun Nov 23, 2025, 02:54 PM
Nov 23

in a smear of the rednecks, of course.

Interestingly, we found Fresno very appealing and a pretty area. We went to the IRS Fresno headquarters for walk-in appointments and found the Northern California changes starting there with the trees. Lots of pines — a definite change from Southern California palm tree vibes.

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