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Tommy Carcetti

(44,333 posts)
Sun Nov 23, 2025, 08:15 AM Yesterday

Re: the supposed Russia-Ukraine "peace" deal, there's no way that it doesn't look bad

Either we did write it and it’s virtually indistinguishable from something that Russia might dream up, or…

…Russia wrote it, we copied it and passed it off as our own, and it just once again confirms what we’ve already known about Trump for the past 10 years.

There’s no good way to look at this at all where we don’t look absolutely horrible when it comes to Ukraine.

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Re: the supposed Russia-Ukraine "peace" deal, there's no way that it doesn't look bad (Original Post) Tommy Carcetti Yesterday OP
Yea, this fuck-up is pretty Hugh Strelnikov_ Yesterday #1
Pooti's puppets WmChris Yesterday #2
Trump has screwed the pooch on Ukraine RazorbackExpat Yesterday #3

Strelnikov_

(8,075 posts)
1. Yea, this fuck-up is pretty Hugh
Sun Nov 23, 2025, 08:21 AM
Yesterday

Hopefully, it's so Hugh that they over correct (relative to their thinking) and start supplying Ukraine the arms they need.

If the economy is a real concern, military (arms) spending is a standard GOP economic pump primer.

My theory: Orange Julius went on a rager about geting a Ukraine deal for a win, so the brain trust packaged up the Russia proposal and sent Driscoll over to ram it down Ukraine's throat.

It's kinda like they are the Beverly Nazi's. Trumpian's Island, Leave it to Lil Marco.


WmChris

(523 posts)
2. Pooti's puppets
Sun Nov 23, 2025, 09:13 AM
Yesterday

The negotiations were run by business people with a goal of private profit. Trump still wants properties in Russia. Giving Putin everything he wants can open doors for Russian and American Oligarchs to profit rebuilding a devastation they created while pillaging the country's natural resources.

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