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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsChristian School Teacher of the Year Arrested and FIRED after adult son posted video of her beating younger son
Video not posted here. WARNING: Don't watch video unless you can tolerate extreme parent on child violence22 strikes within 14 seconds then she picks him up by his hair cursing at him.
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I didnt feel like, you know, she should be working at the school or even doing that to my little brothers. You know, she done it to me my whole life, so Im 24, Jackson Staples said.
Jackson said the incident appeared to start because his younger brother had not completed his chores.
Something about he wasnt cleaning the kitchen like he was supposed to be, he left, went to the neighbors house, come back and then it transpired into that, he said.
In the footage, a woman can be heard yelling and hitting the boy as he cries. The clip also appears to show the woman throw the boy to the ground by his hair.


https://www.fox10tv.com/2025/11/20/son-speaks-out-after-former-teacher-mother-arrested-new-video-shows-jail-release/
samnsara
(18,693 posts)..with her younger siblings and reported their mom for neglect. I had worked with this family briefly and got to know the young girl.. shes gonna go far!
ot.....Recently I read that 11 yr old girls are the 'most empathetic' thing on Earth.
haele
(14,895 posts)However, she just turned 14 and now, while she's still a rather kind, but she's become really judgemental and cynical about fairness and "just desserts".
Oh well.
mwmisses4289
(2,850 posts)Abuse is a family value? Even worse, they have a bunch of how to raise children right books that promote this kind of abuse.
mopinko
(73,210 posts)i think all parents feel like theyll b judge if their kids go bad. but when its your core mission in life to have a kid who is unnaturally good, youre on a collision course.
azureblue
(2,628 posts)They want a reason to justify their actions. A set of rules, which they cherry pick from the old testament. To force on to others, even to physical violence..
mwmisses4289
(2,850 posts)Brainstormy
(2,512 posts)Abuse IS a Christian family value.
NNadir
(36,980 posts)...for familial reasons, that I described here when my oldest son was a toddler, I had him baptized in an Episcopalian (Christianity Light) church which involved attending services for a short time.
One of the sermons by a woman priest there has always stuck in my mind, in which she said that the "rod" in that famous quote should never have been interpreted as beat the hell out of a kid, but that actually the "rod" in sheep herding is a stick held out to gently guide the sheep in the desired direction.
This actually make sense. The alternate meaning, "bit the kid over the head with a stick" represents in my mind a case of eisegesis, thus giving me the second occasion to use the word in a sentence.
We never hit our kids - although my fundamentalist sister-in-law and mother-in-law did hit theirs and thought we should hit ours - and we're very proud of the fine young men they both turned out to be. My two nieces are doing OK, but the oldest has moved out of state, and doesn't plan on coming back. This reminds me of my wife, who when we married, wanted us to move as far away from her family as we could. (Later we made peace with them.)
paleotn
(21,224 posts)They would accuse her of eisegesis. Of course, they don't consider Episcopalians to be actual Christians. But that's OK. Fundie evangelicals have a long list of denominations they don't consider real Christians.
My evangelical experiences were due to bad timing. I came along when mom was going through her evangelical phase. Dad was always go along to get along and never bought into the clap trap. He was my anchor in reality I've come to believe, and kept me from going down that rabbit hole. Eventually, once the craziness became too much, mom returned to the auld Kirk of her ancestry, what's now PCUSA. I can remember maybe once or twice mom or dad actually striking me. They didn't have to. They possessed some strange superpower manifested by "the voice" and a snap of her fingers with mom. With dad, it was "the look" or the occasional "what the hell are you doing?" We froze instantly.
My wife's parents possessed the same powers. Some strange generational thing I guess, lost to time.
electric_blue68
(25,096 posts)(Yeah, I know you an atheist)
We have a wonderful Liberal Episcopalian church here in NYC - The Cathedral of St John The Divine.
As a former Catholic the first time I went there and saw a woman pastor/priest well....
Stunned, amazed, and ultimately thrilled!
Brainstormy
(2,512 posts)for those Bible verses that don't say logical or humane things. Always. But as one of my toddlers told a man who was whacking his kid in the grocery store, "Kids are not for hitting."
sop
(16,972 posts)Proverbs 13:24, "He who spares the rod hates his son, but he who loves him is diligent to discipline him".
Proverbs 23:13-14, "Do not withhold discipline from your children; if you beat them with a rod, they will not die."
Proverbs 29:15: "The rod of correction imparts wisdom, but a child left to himself will give his mother a bad name."
mwmisses4289
(2,850 posts)If you beat a child with a rod they will not die? Really?!? Tell that to the kids whose parent beat them until the died!
And that last quote of blame mom when the kid turns out rotten. Geez.
No wonder so many are leaving religion.
Joinfortmill
(19,619 posts)paleotn
(21,224 posts)https://www.ms.now/opinion/msnbc-opinion/religious-right-james-dobson-dead-at-89-rcna226322
https://abcnews.go.com/US/childs-death-sheds-light-biblical-disciplinary-teachings/story?id=14897901
https://therevealer.org/an-evangelical-culture-of-child-discipline/
Their Bible is filled with corporal punishment. Particularly Proverbs.
https://www.openbible.info/topics/corporal_punishment
mwmisses4289
(2,850 posts)that is why a number of foreign adoption agencies no longer allow americans to adopt children.
2-3 hour beating sessions? Yikes!
walkingman
(10,148 posts)It's the same thing I think about when I hear the US Constitution interpreted by "originalists".
ProfessorGAC
(75,333 posts)Originalism is the most intellectually lazy construct I can imagine.
It's rooted in strict constructionism, but requires interpreting the constitution (which they say doesn't need interpreting) by imaging what someone was thinking when they wrote what they wrote 240 years ago.
It's just a made up philosophy to allow rationalizing decisions they were already predisposed to make because of their paranormal mind-reading abilities.
Scalia was a fraud, Thomas is a fraud, and anyone who espouses Originalism is a fraud.
COL Mustard
(7,834 posts)Spare the rod, spoil the child. Which, by the way, is not found in the Bible, although many of these faux-Christians think it is, especially in the Deep South, where this incident took place.
She was released the next day on bond, but the school fired her. If she goes to prison for this, I imagine the other inmates will make life Hell for her...they don't like child abusers.
Martin68
(26,689 posts)"Spare the rod and spoil the child."
MorbidButterflyTat
(3,973 posts)Some of these sickos literally think calling themselves "Christians" absolves them of guilt and responsibility. They can do anything, and anything they do is okay, because they're "Christian."
cloudbase
(6,109 posts)As we all know, Jesus used to beat the shit out of his followers when they did anything wrong.
WmChris
(523 posts)Control freak if you didn't do exactly what I wanted you to do exactly when I wanted it done I will enforce my will with violence. Kind like the old punishing view of God but without the pillars of salt or world drowning floods.
multigraincracker
(36,735 posts)When I was young I wouldnt have liked them. Now, they equal justice. They dont lie.
BlueWaveNeverEnd
(12,249 posts)mountain grammy
(28,466 posts)Joinfortmill
(19,619 posts)Old Crank
(6,464 posts)An imperfect vessel.
Aviation Pro
(15,107 posts)This is one of them.
flashman13
(1,802 posts)niyad
(128,748 posts)Fil1957
(422 posts)times with a belt would be considered excessive even back then, I don't think the parent would get arrested, let alone get any jail time back in the day.
mwmisses4289
(2,850 posts)The wooden paddle was from that toy that had the ball on a rubber band. When we broke the rubberband...well.
That lasted until we hid the paddle, parents couldn't find it for months. They switched to grounding us instead.
Dave Bowman
(6,317 posts)UpInArms
(53,776 posts)bucolic_frolic
(53,381 posts)Love how the good Christian people who commit these crimes are not the agents of the events. The events happen all by themselves.
moniss
(8,463 posts)Bluetus
(1,984 posts)This is horrible, and a person like this should be in prison, not a classroom. But let's not invent facts. It says the school system fired her as soon as they were made aware of the situation. I don't think we should be implying that Christian schools encourage or tolerate this more than other schools. That may be true, but it appears the school acted responsibly in this case.
BlueWaveNeverEnd
(12,249 posts)Former Alabama Teacher of the Year Arrested Over Beating Child in Viral Video https://people.com/former-alabama-teacher-of-the-year-arrested-for-viral-child-beating-video-11855134
Bluetus
(1,984 posts)that this was not a major award by some prestigious organization. It was evidently recognition awarded by her small school one year. Nonetheless it is a terrible situation and that does reflect on the judgment and character one might find in these small Christian schools.
And it is certainly reasonable to ask the school if they have documented policies and standards of behavior by teachers with regard to corporal punishment.
MorbidButterflyTat
(3,973 posts)Iris
(16,790 posts)BlueWaveNeverEnd
(12,249 posts)Iris
(16,790 posts)EverHopeful
(626 posts)Can't find it now but it described a recommended parenting technique that, if commonly used in evangelical households, would explain why so many can be sucked in by the current regime.
It said to place the child in the middle of a small blanket on the floor and tell them to stay on the blanket. Then hold up a favorite toy or a favorite snack food and encourage the child to crawl towards it. When the child crawls off the blanket trying to reach the offered toy, yell at them and hit them and tell them they were told to stay on the blanket.
How could a person possibly grow up to think for themselves (or to trust anyone) after that kind of cruel conditioning?
It just seemed to me that this kind of upbringing could help explain why we have such a huge number of authoritarians in our current population.