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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Thu Dec 27, 2012, 10:11 PM Dec 2012

Volunteers toughen up bobcat kitten who's too nice

PLACERVILLE, Calif. (AP) — A Northern California animal rescue group is trying to help an orphaned bobcat kitten with a problem: She's too nice.


The friendly baby bobcat was only a few weeks old and had burned paws and infected eyes when fire crews found her in August while battling a 75,000-acre fire in the Plumas National Forest. They named her Chips, after the wildfire.

Volunteers at the Sierra Wildlife Rescue in Placerville now are trying to toughen the kitten up, with plans to release her back into the wild next spring, The Sacramento Bee (http://bit.ly/WTOqHJ ) reports.

As part of her training regimen, Chips has had to start chasing down her own mice and rabbits for meals and stop sleeping on a soft bed like the one she'd grown accustomed to while she was receiving medical treatment.


Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/news/us/article/Volunteers-toughen-up-bobcat-kitten-who-s-too-nice-4149186.php

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Volunteers toughen up bobcat kitten who's too nice (Original Post) n2doc Dec 2012 OP
she's so beautiful sasha031 Dec 2012 #1
Poor kitten! Probably she's thinking to herself, "Where's my freshly-prepared TwilightGardener Dec 2012 #2
For some reason I was picturing a drill sargeant. TlalocW Dec 2012 #3
They should keep her as a pet.... Kalidurga Dec 2012 #4
That's what I think too. If she wants a home like this what's the big deal with it all, keep RKP5637 Dec 2012 #6
That wouldn't work once she became sexually mature. X_Digger Dec 2012 #9
+1 Poll_Blind Dec 2012 #10
It's not her "nature" at all. Daemonaquila Dec 2012 #11
Beautiful bobcat!! neverforget Dec 2012 #5
Are these volunteers available to visit Oval Office immediately? cui bono Dec 2012 #7
Poor kitteh :( darkangel218 Dec 2012 #8
Frankly, that won't work, she won't be "sweet" for much longer... Humanist_Activist Dec 2012 #12
Oh please! darkangel218 Dec 2012 #21
Probably what Sigfried and Roy said about their tiger mythology Dec 2012 #14
Oh she is so very beautiful. n/t Sekhmets Daughter Dec 2012 #13
Maybe she is a candidate for veganism. Loudly Dec 2012 #15
Except she would die. Cats aren't like dogs. They need meat. catbyte Dec 2012 #16
Cats are obligate carnivores. Vegetarianism is rapidly fatal to them, kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #18
So consciousness cannot overcome DNA? Loudly Dec 2012 #19
Nonhumans have different digestion and metablism than humans do Scootaloo Dec 2012 #22
That's a fail, as proven. flvegan Dec 2012 #23
We had a bobcat when I was a boy. GreenStormCloud Dec 2012 #17
awwwwww elehhhhna Dec 2012 #20

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
2. Poor kitten! Probably she's thinking to herself, "Where's my freshly-prepared
Thu Dec 27, 2012, 10:16 PM
Dec 2012

filet of rabbit? Where'd my soft kitteh bed go? THIS IS BULLSHIT!!"

TlalocW

(15,384 posts)
3. For some reason I was picturing a drill sargeant.
Thu Dec 27, 2012, 10:20 PM
Dec 2012

Where you from, kitty-kitty? Plumas National Forest? There're only two kinds of felines that come out of there - pussies and alley cats! Which one are you?

TlalocW

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
4. They should keep her as a pet....
Thu Dec 27, 2012, 10:21 PM
Dec 2012

she's sweet it is probably too ingrained in her nature. They shouldn't fight nature, just learn to live with her the way she is.

RKP5637

(67,111 posts)
6. That's what I think too. If she wants a home like this what's the big deal with it all, keep
Thu Dec 27, 2012, 10:28 PM
Dec 2012

her as a pet. We can't all be exactly the same. She might be on an evolutionary domesticated path.

X_Digger

(18,585 posts)
9. That wouldn't work once she became sexually mature.
Thu Dec 27, 2012, 10:37 PM
Dec 2012

You'd then have a bobcat that can't function in the wild, but can't be a pet, either.

Deconditioning and reintroduction can look cruel, but it's really the best answer.

I was recently watching a show on reintroduction of orangutans in Sumatra, I believe it was, and they touched on this very point.

 

Daemonaquila

(1,712 posts)
11. It's not her "nature" at all.
Thu Dec 27, 2012, 10:39 PM
Dec 2012

Most likely, volunteers caused the problem by imprinting her on humans. Now she has to learn how to be a bobcat. Fortunately, a lot of felines can get more independent as they mature, and successfully can be reintroduced to the wild after they prove their skills.

 

darkangel218

(13,985 posts)
8. Poor kitteh :(
Thu Dec 27, 2012, 10:35 PM
Dec 2012

You just can't train a sweet kitteh to be mean. If its not in her nature, than they shouldnt release it back into the wild. You can see it on her face how sweet she is.

 

Humanist_Activist

(7,670 posts)
12. Frankly, that won't work, she won't be "sweet" for much longer...
Thu Dec 27, 2012, 11:06 PM
Dec 2012

once she reaches sexual maturity, she will be a half-feral animal that is not suitable for human companionship yet also not capable of surviving on her own. The only other options after that is captivity in a zoo or refuge, with little contact with either her kind or humans, or putting her down.

You are placing your expectations of how she should act over her own best interests. She's physically healthy, young, and more than capable of surviving on her own, IF given the mental tools necessary to survive. She is, first and foremost, a wild animal, NOT Mr. Tabby who is sleeping at the foot of your bed.

 

darkangel218

(13,985 posts)
21. Oh please!
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 12:41 AM
Dec 2012

There are plenty of animals born and raised in the wild who don't make it due to a soft personality. Don't you think the experts realized there was something a bit off with her development, which is not necessarily relatated with her being raised in captivity?

There are other options, such as wild animals sanctuaries, which would be preferable than releasing her back in the wild with such a timid personality.

BTW, are you always this condescending in your replies?

Have a good night.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
14. Probably what Sigfried and Roy said about their tiger
Thu Dec 27, 2012, 11:15 PM
Dec 2012

Bobcats aren't the same as domesticated house cats. Wild animals are called wild for a reason.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
18. Cats are obligate carnivores. Vegetarianism is rapidly fatal to them,
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 12:03 AM
Dec 2012

let alone veganism.

Where do people come up with these gawdawful ideas????

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
22. Nonhumans have different digestion and metablism than humans do
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 01:51 AM
Dec 2012

You know how dogs can't have chocolate, because they don't metabolize theobromine the same way humans do?

It's sort of the same way with cats. They can't get taurine from any source other than animal protein. You can feed them all the peas and carrots and your favoritist vegan foods in the world and all that will happen is that your cat will go blind and lose its teeth.

If you're committed to a strict vegan lifestyle, don't own a cat. If you're willing to violate your ethics for the kitty, I would suggest purchasing real meat; see about getting scrap or something from your butcher. Canned cat food is a major contributor to the depletion of oceanic fish stocks, and generally isn't very healthy (like canned food for humans it's formulated for shelf life, not nutrition). Dry food is mostly grain bulk, which is 100% useless for a cat's metabolism.

flvegan

(64,408 posts)
23. That's a fail, as proven.
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 02:01 AM
Dec 2012

I don't promote it, but don't be false in your assessment. People look to you. Live up to it.

GreenStormCloud

(12,072 posts)
17. We had a bobcat when I was a boy.
Thu Dec 27, 2012, 11:47 PM
Dec 2012

We had a tame bobcat once when I was a boy in the 1950s. We lived on a ranch in South Texas. Dad was burning a pile of brush that had been pushed up by a bulldozer a few weeks before. He heard mewing and pulled a baby bobkitten from the bushpile. It was a few weeks old, had its teeth so it could eat regular food. We had a mother cat that had kittens and was bringing in rats for her babies. She adopted Blue and he grew rapidly. He was just like any other cat. He loved to jump into my arms and be petted and purred just like any other cat, except bigger. Eventually he got to big to catch rats in the barn and started learning to catch rabbits. That required a larger territory for him to range in so he began to roam over the ranch hunting rabbits. Slowly his hunting trips got longer and longer, until he never returned. I was hunting once, (Dad gave me a shotgun at age eleven.) and saw him. He remembered me, came up to me, allowed himself to be petted, then went on his way. It has been over fifty years and I still fondly remember Blue.

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