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Last week, J.Crew announced the release of a pink "Fair Isle" sweater that The Guardian columnist Ellie Violet Bramley described in a new column as a traditional preppy piece that seems to align with the fashion sensibilities of the conservative right. However, the backlash the sweater received from several prominent MAGA figures, such as Rep. Tim Burchett (R-TN) and pundit Juanita Broaddrick, revealed a stark contradiction about the movement's views of masculinity.
Masculinity is one of the key tenets of President Donald Trump's MAGA movement, which promotes an uncompromising view of manhood often imagined by teenage boys, according to an article by Jill Filipovic, an author and contributor to The Atlantic. That version has been described by experts as "performative hypermasculinity," which rejects anything that appears to be feminine.
From a fashion point of view, it couldnt be more innocuous," Bramley wrote. "Its got a crew neck. Its made from wool. It has a Fair Isle pattern at the upper yoke. Theres nothing asymmetric about it, no fringing or tassels, no slogan blasted across the front; no 'Make America Kind Again.' So whats the big deal? Reader, the jumper is pink."
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https://www.rawstory.com/maga-2674335751/?cx_testId=6&cx_testVariant=cx_undefined&cx_artPos=4&cx_experienceId=EXC93HV4HK4I&cx_experienceActionId=showRecommendationsVP9S9ZC8WNR522#cxrecs_s
The Guardian article, with a picture of the sweater: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/nov/23/maga-meltdown-pink-sweater-men-masculinity-fragile
niyad
(128,910 posts)that part of my aversion to pink clothing stems from marabel morgan's "every woman should have a little pink dress in her wardrobe". (from "Total Woman"
The other, far deeper one, is about the whole pink/blue, female/male stereotyping., which has annoyed me since I was a kid.
To each their own!
tblue37
(67,829 posts)In fact, it was not always so. Pink and blue were not gender signifiers in this country until shortly after World War I, according to Wilchins. In the centuries prior to that, all babies were dressed in white gowns, which allowed easy access for diaper changes and could be bleached after wearing. Clothing for children up to the age of six or seven was treated as unisex (which allowed parents to use the same clothes for every baby born). It was a matter of home economics and didnt change much even when pastel colors (including pink and blue but also others such as yellow) were introduced in the mid-1800s, presumably because commercial dyes became widely available. Here are some things your outfit color says about you.
Things only began to change, in fact, in June 1918, when Ladies Home Journal published an article claiming that the generally accepted rule is pink for the boys, and blue for the girls. Thats right: pink for boys and blue for girls because, at least at the time, pink, which is associated with red, was considered too harsh for girls. Girls were therefore assigned a color associated with sky and daylight.
But the fact that the media had begun promoting the notion of one color or another being associated with one gender or another was likely the brainchild of marketing strategists, says Wilchins. Essentially, clothing manufacturers and retailers had realized that they could double the amount of clothing sold. By 1927, department stores had jumped on board such that Time magazine printed a chart showing sex-appropriate colors for girls and boys according to leading U.S. stores: In Boston, Filenes told parents to dress boys in pink. So did Best & Co. in New York City, Halles in Cleveland, and Marshall Field in Chicago. Today, that might sound downright outrageousits one of the history facts that sound fake but arent.
It wasnt until the 1940s that manufacturers went in the opposite direction and decided that pink was for girls, and blue was for boys. But then, just one generation later, the womens liberation movement ushered in unisex baby clothing once again, which remained in vogue until the mid-1980s. That was when medical science allowed parents to learn the gender of their not-yet-born babies.
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Much more: https://www.rd.com/article/pink-for-boys/
niyad
(128,910 posts)this most informtive article.
COL Mustard
(7,861 posts)This time of year. Its cashmere, one of several I have, and they are one of the little luxuries that I allow myself. And Im a dude, happily wearing any of them. Guess Ill be rotating the pins one a lot more often! Aggravate a MAGAt every day!
niyad
(128,910 posts)feeling, and looking, great when one annoys magats is always a bonus!
I love pink flowers, but other than that, I am not a huge fan of pink. Maybe it is all those years of living with Barbie-pink when my daughter was young. Then the color took over girls' clothing lines as well.
niyad
(128,910 posts)tools. .hell, even guns. I remember walking into a toy store years ago to purchase a gift for a friend's grandchild, and was confronted by an entire aisle of barbie-pink in every "girl's" toy imaginable. Instant migraine, which was exacerbated when I saw the uzi commando kit for boys. I registered a very horrified complaint with the manager. I also registered a complaint with my local hardware store about all the pink tools, kits, etc.,.. which, by the way, always seem to cost more than the "manly" version.
PatSeg
(51,594 posts)I think I eventually developed an allergic reaction to Barbie-pink. I really hate the sameness of all of it. Young girls everywhere wore pink jackets, shoes, boots, pants, shirts, etc., and everyone looked pretty much the same.
Pink tools? Yuck! I always preferred more realistic toys and definitely diverse colors.
Intractable
(1,432 posts)Haggard Celine
(17,604 posts)It looks like someone took a tablecloth and made a sweater out of it. And it doesn't really fit the model all that well either. I don't like pink, but that's the least of my problems with that sweater.
COL Mustard
(7,861 posts)And at $168, its definitely not in my desired price range. But if I had one, I wouldnt wash it, Id dry clean it.
Intractable
(1,432 posts)So, you'd have to pay to buy it, then pay to wear it.
It's like renting the thing, not owning it.
It seems to be styled like a country-style table cloth.
COL Mustard
(7,861 posts)With trying to wash wool clothing. It shrinks, then I have to replace it. Or give it to the neighborhood kids. I dry clean everything that is wool or cashmere.
niyad
(128,910 posts)then either lay them out on towels, or hang them up to finish drying. I once had a gorgeous two-piece raw silk outfit. The two times I had it dry-cleaned, I had to sign a waiver about not being able to hold the cleaners responsible for any damage. They told me you cannot wash silk (which is not true!). After that, I figured I couldn't do a worse job, and certainly at far less cost. I wore that outfit for almost 15 years, loved it.
Raine
(31,031 posts)PatSeg
(51,594 posts)SamKnause
(14,592 posts)Last edited Mon Nov 24, 2025, 06:48 AM - Edit history (1)
I don't have an issue with a man wearing the color pink.
But I think of summer clothes being pink, not winter.
Shorts and tank tops etc.
I like men who dress in all colors.
Anything that gets men out of suits and ties I'm all for.
Suits and ties remind me of a strait jacket.
The tie will go down in history and the most useless piece of clothing ever invented.
I like the way Jon Batiste dresses.
I have always like anything that is shiny, sparkles, lights up, glitters, or shimmers etc.
That is my taste in decorating and in clothes.
Glass, mirrors, chrome, dramatic lighting, black lacquer furniture, etc.
My mother hated taking me clothes shopping for back to school.
niyad
(128,910 posts)they stop wearing neckties? How intelligent is it to start the day by tying a little noose around your neck?"
multigraincracker
(36,767 posts)Grokenstein
(6,217 posts)COL Mustard
(7,861 posts)Heather Peony.
TheBlackAdder
(29,899 posts)Happy Hoosier
(9,318 posts).. as were pink oxford cloth shirts. I had several. I was in college then, and it was very fashioable at the time,
pansypoo53219
(22,781 posts)color me macho didn't address pink. princess pink.
Layzeebeaver
(2,148 posts)People... It's only a colour. It's only a sweater.
I'd be more concerned if I found out it was made in a sweatshop (can't prove it, didn't look, got other things to do).
Meanwhile... don't like it? Then don't buy it or wear it. Just be kind, and don't stomp on other people down if they do.
On an (not the) other hand, If J. Crew was looking for a signature piece that would bounce their brand awareness and traffic, then looks like they smashed it. Well done!
Anyway, sorry to disturb. Please carry on...
Raine
(31,031 posts)Layzeebeaver
(2,148 posts)I also wear a lot of other colours.
... but I hate the Faire Isle knit patterns. (OK Hate is a bit over the top)
I tolerate my wife wearing them, but when she is shopping and it's a toss up between her buying ANYTHING and a Faire Isle something, I always chose the ANYTHING else. It's an inside joke now.
Hassin Bin Sober
(27,336 posts)obamanut2012
(29,079 posts)That yoke piece isn't "weird," it's what a Fair Isle sweater looks like.
Celerity
(53,242 posts)By far the most consistently hostile (some were horridly and dismayingly personal in mode of attack) and negative replies I have recieved to my OPs over the years are the ones about clothing and/or design/architecture.
Puppyjive
(902 posts)MAGA are incapable of addressing complicated issues and are stuck like a broken record.
The Madcap
(1,634 posts)While the traitor-king in orange is trying to force Ukraine to roll over and die for Vladimir Putin, they are blowing their stacks over an ugly pink sweater.
This country is done for.
tanyev
(48,405 posts)Anytime theres a lull in news stories to fuel their outrage they have to find something, anything to keep it goong.
Hugin
(37,202 posts)Not that theyd ever buy a sweater much less one without Trump drag pedo signaling etched into it.
tavernier
(14,133 posts)that she had placed in the bin to go to Goodwill.
underpants
(194,132 posts)thucythucy
(9,012 posts)underpants
(194,132 posts)Gore1FL
(22,778 posts)The weird thing at the collar makes it ugly.
obamanut2012
(29,079 posts)Gore1FL
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Iggo
(49,475 posts)yardwork
(68,640 posts)As other posters in this thread have noted, this is a traditional preppy style and a traditional preppy color. While a pink Fair Isle sweater would be seen more commonly on women than men, this is a typical look among the preppy set.
The fact that MAGAs are up in arms is an interesting example of how they differ from the old Republican monied class. From my experience rural conservatives are held in contempt by that class.
aeromanKC
(3,771 posts)Had to check if this was from The Onion.
DiverDave
(5,206 posts)Simply, projection.
Ocelot II
(128,486 posts)If guys think their balls will shrivel if they wear a pink sweater (or worse, that they'll be mocked by other manly men), then by all means they shouldn't buy one. Or maybe just wear it under bib overalls and without a shirt so a big clump of chest hair sticks out.
Prairie_Seagull
(4,569 posts)Initech
(107,016 posts)Never mind that there's wars and a horrifying genocide going on, or that there's a horrible regime illegally occupying the White House, there's pink sweaters being sold!
WTF, this is why we can't have nice things.
niyad
(128,910 posts)one thing at a time, even those with differing levels of importance. And many need a break from all the horror and angst and evil, even if for a few minutes discussing things that others deem trivial. It doesn't mean they don't care. Self-care is important, too.
BWdem4life
(2,896 posts)But the top part is just wrong, to me. But hey, whatever sells I guess...
obamanut2012
(29,079 posts)BWdem4life
(2,896 posts)obamanut2012
(29,079 posts)He wears pink Polos, button-down shirts, sweaters, and even pink golf pants. It looks great with his coloring, and for all his many faults, he isn't a misogynist jerk with issues. He would totally wear that sweater
H2O Man
(78,359 posts)Pink is my favorite color. But when it comes to clothing, I have but one pink piece, a "Mean Girls" t-shirt my younger daughter gifted me, that reads, "On Wednesdays, we wear pink."
A pink sweater threatens their masculinity, they have a bigger problem than a pink sweater.
MagickMuffin
(18,031 posts)They dont mix. Ah well, youll look lovely in your new duds.
senseandsensibility
(24,103 posts)First of all, I could care less if men wear corsets and stilettos. Not my business. But personally, I do see fair isle as a feminine style. Nothing wrong with that. Men should go for it if they're feeling it. Here in CA I never see men wear fair isle sweaters. Of course we only have sweater weather for a couple of months a year and even then, you need something you can take off for the warm afternoons.
Intractable
(1,432 posts)chowmama
(949 posts)Because it makes good use of leftover lengths of yarn, too short for a whole other garment. Of course, this require a culture where people make some or all of their own stuff. If times are hard enough, color isn't even a thought and anything is likely to be used for both sexes. Those were tough people, unlike the MAGA snowflakes.
My mom made Argyle socks to perfection.
-misanthroptimist
(1,554 posts)Virtually, everything I own is black, blue, gray, or white. And that's a good thing for me.
IcyPeas
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