Sen. Kelly's full statement on Kegsbreath threat to recall him to active duty and possible Court Martial:

[MarineCombatEngineer]

Pentagon threatens to prosecute Senator Mark Kelly by recalling him to Navy service

[Lovie777]

1. WTF......

These people are whacked.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

2. And that's putting it mildly.

[rampartd]

22. i sure can't figure an article of the ucmj that applies

conduct unbecoming an officer and gentleman? that won't stick.

trump is creating our presidential candidate if he does this publicly.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

28. And that's why I hope they try to recall and prosecute him.

You think this is a shit storm now, not you specifically, this would turn into a full blown Cat 5 Hurricane shit storm.

[BidenRocks]

38. Article 134 of the UCMJ

We don't need no stinkin' reason!
We have 134.

I hope hogsbreath is not above the UCMJ!

[sheshe2]

3. I am at a loss for words.

[KS Toronado]

15. Appears the Pentagon is following illegal orders

straight from IQ4.7 , exact thing Kelly warned them about.

[sheshe2]

17. You are 100% correct, KS.

[niyad]

24. Oh, there are PLENTY of words. Most of them wold net us a visit from

krasnov's goons.

[BattleRow]

4. Perhaps Kelly should just say..

"Go ahead and make my day"..figuratively speaking.

[ouija]

5. Pussy Pete

[niyad]

27. Could we PLEASE stop using sexist slurs as a synonym for cowardice???

[maxsolomon]

33. Back in Cincinnati, we said wussy.

In fact, there's a great band named Wussy now.

[Dave Bowman]

34. +1 nt

[luv2fly]

43. Right after all the dick references people throw around

Don't hold your breath.

[niyad]

44. Which came first?

[DFW]

6. I wonder where Trumpseth is gonna find any active military personnel sleazy enough to arrest Mark Kelly

Maybe there are a couple of convicted killers in Leavenworth who would do it in return for a pardon, but I can't think of who else would even consider carrying out such an order.

[live love laugh]

18. There are plenty of them because we allowed Fox News to brainwash the military for decades.

[Norrrm]

41. Trump has put many of his sycophants in position - Hegseth to start.

And replacing high level women and blacks because they were female and black.

[Attilatheblond]

7. So, are people currently in the academies of the various branches of the military bound by possible lifetime call ups?

If not, can they resign and not be forced to follow illegal orders or be tried for 'treason'? Anybody currently considering a career in the military has to be rethinking that option. Being a future victim of civilian policy whims doesn't sound very wise at present.

This 'government power by fiat and presidential tantrum' has to have some legal limits?

[pfitz59]

21. Mike Johnson's porn buddy son

is currently at the Naval Academy. What a waste.

[niyad]

30. WTAF???

[MorbidButterflyTat]

8. I'd love to see Senator Kelly

punch that bloated baby bully in its fugly anus mouth.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

10. I would donate a months' worth of my pension to see that.

[progressoid]

11. Like the next generation Buzz Adrin.

https://www.reddit.com/r/fuckaroundandfindout/comments/1nw9ois/classic_former_astronaut_buzz_aldrin_punches/

[edhopper]

14. Unfortnately

Buzz is a Trumper.

[progressoid]

16. Really?

That's a shame. I thought he was just old school GOP. Damn.

[edhopper]

23. Yep

https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2024/10/30/2024-elections-live-coverage-updates-analysis/buzz-aldrin-endorses-trump-00186248

[progressoid]

26. Well, shit.

I guess I'll have a double gin/tonic tonight.

[niyad]

31. fuck politico. I am not going to verify I am human to read their garbage.

[edhopper]

35. I didn't need to to read it.

But anyway, all it says is Aldrin endorsed Trump for the election.

[niyad]

40. Thank you.

[Dave Bowman]

37. Now that's a damn disappointment, I thought he was smarter than that. 🙁

[edhopper]

39. Maybe he opened

the pod bay door once too many times.

[struggle4progress]

9. Resistance Revival Chorus

[erronis]

20. Wonderful video!!!

[niyad]

32. I LOVE these amazing women!

[Arazi]

12. Every MOC needs to make a video echoing the call to disobey illegal orders

Make this a much bigger deal. Dial. It. Up.

Stat.

It’s time to put the pedal to the metal on following the rule of law.

It’s a great issue for Dems. Amplify it

[Bengus81]

13. Kelly should say sure...when Cadet Bonespurs joins me

[Diraven]

19. Ok, is this order itself even legal?

Can a retired officer be recalled to active duty for the sole purpose of a military prosecution? I thought they could only be recalled in a war or emergency.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

25. If the Pentagon determines that articles of the UCMJ have been violated by a retired military member,

they can be recalled to active duty for the purpose of prosecution, but in this case, there is no violation of any articles of the UCMJ, he didn't say to disobey legal orders, he said it's their duty to disobey ILLEGAL ORDERS, emphasis on illegal.

Technically, I guess I could be recalled for wearing this T-Shirt:


However, I don't think even Kegsbreath would go that far.

[aka-chmeee]

29. IIRC, 80 years ago it was firmly established that "I was just following orders" was not a viable defense.

It should be noted that Trump's "immunity" ,at least so far, does not extend to military personnel.

[KSL-Washington]

36. More idiocy at the Pentagon

A highly decorated retired Navy Captain who quotes the U.C.M.J. is not and cannot be guilty of sedition. Anybody who has ever taken the oath upon joining the military knows that you do not have to follow unlawful orders. Captain Kelly clearly stated he was talking about unlawful orders. Only if you are guilty of issuing unlawful orders would you rant and threaten such a statement with a Court Martial. Hegseth is completely out of order. The person who should be called back into the military is, in fact, Sec. Kegsbreath.

[Bluetus]

42. This is why I cannot watch MSNBC. IN that entire segment they never once mentioned

that what Kelly said is absolutely the truth under article 92 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice. There is no ambiguity about this. Article 92 is clear that a soldier must obey legal orders, but not illegal orders. There can be some ambiguity about what is an illegal order. Much of the commentary and advice to soldiers refers to obviously illegal orders, and the murders in Venezuelan waters are recent examples of obviously illegal orders. Kelly and his cohort may have been warning more about any attempts by Trump to declare martial law and to authorize deadly force by the military against American citizens on American soil.

Not one fucking word about the real issue. I really, really hate MSNBC. They claim to be the honest broker in the news business, yet 99% of the time, they just repeat Trump's talking points verbatim.

Nor did they bother to mention that of the 6, Kelly is the only one that the Pentagon can harass because the other 5 discharged before qualifying for a pension and therefore have not been subject to UCMJ since the date of their discharge.

[stollen]

45. Court martial a combat veteran and astronaut??

What does that have to do with the price of eggs, gas, and affordable housing?

Not even the red states voted for this investigative nonsense. I predict a death spiral of Trump's poll numbers.

[dweller]

46. So read this morning

A sitting US senator cannot be recalled to the military .
First he would have to be expelled from the senate .
By a 2/3 majority .

I don’t see that happening

Edit: yes it’s A I

Authority to recall: The law allows for the recall of retired service members to active duty, and in the case of Senator Mark Kelly, the Pentagon cited federal law and stated a recall could be a possible measure following an investigation into allegations of misconduct.
Legal challenges: A recall of a sitting senator would likely face a legal challenge. Constitutional law experts suggest that a sitting member of Congress being subjected to discipline by the military could violate the separation of powers principle. The senator would likely have a strong legal standing to argue against the recall, notes Reuters.
Separation of powers: The Constitution protects members of Congress from certain forms of executive overreach, which could complicate a recall effort, says CBC.
Precedent: A recall of a sitting senator would be an extraordinary and unprecedented event, with one expert stating it is highly unlikely to have ever happened before, based on Military Times.


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