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Interesting (though longish) article convincingly argues that the poverty line for a family of 4 should (Original Post) tblue37 Monday OP
$35 per hour minimum wage for a working couple MichMan Monday #1
Great article, lays out something we've all noticed but rarely gets talked about. unblock Tuesday #2
It's become nearly impossible to do what I call a retail lifestyle... Hugin Tuesday #3

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(55,825 posts)
2. Great article, lays out something we've all noticed but rarely gets talked about.
Tue Nov 25, 2025, 12:49 AM
Tuesday

Great way to describe it -- the cost of participation.

So many people say poor people are to much better off because their car is safer, their phones are amazing, etc.

.. yeah, but now they *need* an expensive phone. My daughter went to s McDonald's to ask for a job, they said you have to apply online. And forget about a new car, even the cheapest is crazy compared to what basic transport once was.

The cost of participation has skyrocketed.

Hugin

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3. It's become nearly impossible to do what I call a retail lifestyle...
Tue Nov 25, 2025, 05:25 AM
Tuesday

Last edited Tue Nov 25, 2025, 11:14 AM - Edit history (1)

Where an income can be spread to cover all required expenditures. Food, shelter, health maintenance and so on. Even for an individual, without a boost in each category to get by.

A lifestyle that was the norm until maybe a decade ago.

I must be a member of at least fifteen rewards programs and I can’t use any one of them completely.

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