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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsChuck Schumer Faces Pushback From a 'Fight Club' of Senate Democrats
A group of influential liberal senators is directly challenging Senator Chuck Schumers approach to the midterm elections and President Trump, in another sign of growing frustration among Democrats toward the minority leader.
The coalition of at least half a dozen senators, who call themselves the Fight Club, is unhappy with how Mr. Schumer and his fellow senator from New York, Kirsten Gillibrand, the head of Senate Democrats campaign arm, have chosen, recruited and, they argue, favored candidates aligned with the establishment.
The mutinous mood of the senators who include Chris Van Hollen of Maryland, Tina Smith of Minnesota, Christopher S. Murphy of Connecticut, Bernie Sanders of Vermont and Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts reflects the widespread doubts among the Democratic base that party leaders in Congress have a strong vision and a winning strategy for returning to power.
The effort also amounts to an extraordinary pre-emptive challenge to Mr. Schumer at the earliest stages of the 2026 midterm races. He has faced widespread Democratic criticism over his handling of battles against the White House this year and his refusal to endorse Zohran Mamdani as the Democratic nominee for mayor of New York City. Mr. Mamdani ultimately won.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/24/us/politics/schumer-democrats-senate-fight-club.html
Scrivener7
(57,968 posts)in this.
(I know there's a small but vocal posse here who think that makes me a bad Democrat, but I'm perfectly satisfied to be as bad a Democrat as Chris Murphy. I'd love for him to be the new minority leader.)
gab13by13
(30,798 posts)Anyone who disputes the age old notion that a moderate is needed to win in certain elections is labeled anti-Democrat.
I can't ever recall DNC leadership arguing the opposite view, that a progressive is needed to be nominated to win.
I wish we could just drop the moderate v progressive labels and go with the candidate who is a fighter.
David Hogg tried to do that and look where it got him.
Jilly_in_VA
(13,614 posts)Either it pushes Chuck into action (doubtful but possible), or it forces him to step aside in favor of someone who will be more active in supporting Democratic candidates and a Democratic agenda in particular. I like Chuck well enough, I think he's a decent guy and all, but isn't there a time to take off the gloves and start fighting seriously?
Scrivener7
(57,968 posts)gab13by13
(30,798 posts)She will beat him no problem.
Scrivener7
(57,968 posts)SocialDemocrat61
(6,534 posts)and 84 at the end of that term. He thought Biden was too old to run again. Maybe he should take his own advice.
murielm99
(32,535 posts)Is he too old? Whenever I see criticisms of lawmakers here for their age, I never see anyone mention Bernie.
SocialDemocrat61
(6,534 posts)Sanders supported Biden. My criticism is Schumer's hypocrisy, not his age.
murielm99
(32,535 posts)He is old. Do you think he should retire right now because of his age? Few, if any DU members ever allow for any criticism over Bernie's age.
SocialDemocrat61
(6,534 posts)I go by people's ability.
murielm99
(32,535 posts)SMDH.
SocialDemocrat61
(6,534 posts)I made a comment about Schumer's hypocrisy and you tried to make it about Sanders age. I didn't even mention Sanders, you dragged him into this. Plus I don't live in Vermont, so it's really not up to me.
I answered as honestly as I could. Why do you have an issue with that?
murielm99
(32,535 posts)Go back and take a look at it. I don't think your answer was honest at all. If Schumer's age can be mentioned, so can anyone's. Bernie is only one example. He is fair game.
I was angry when people started criticizing Biden over his age. I was horrified when people wanted him to step aside. I knew then that we should prepare for the current nightmare in the White House.
SocialDemocrat61
(6,534 posts)and 84 at the end of that term. He thought Biden was too old to run again. Maybe he should take his own advice.
No it was about Schumer pushing Biden out because of age and his possibly running for re-election at a similar age which is hypocrisy on his part.
You're the one who chose to drag Sanders into it. If you want to discuss Sanders' age, go right ahead with someone else and leave me out of it. It is irrelevant to the point that I was making.
lapucelle
(20,915 posts)Chuck Schumer turned 75 last week. Hell be 77 in two years.
Its Elizabeth Warren who will be 78 in two years (actually 1.5 years)
Bernie Sanders turned 78 back in 2019. In two years hell be 86.
Sanders has already filed papers to run for senate again in 2030. In 2030 Sanders will be 89.
SocialDemocrat61
(6,534 posts)The issue is Schumers possible hypocrisy. He wanted Biden to step down because of his age. Will he apply the same standard to himself?
lapucelle
(20,915 posts)The Senate majority leader was being inundated with concerns from members of his caucus, people familiar with the situation tell POLITICO
Chuck Schumer was publicly repeating Im with Joe until the end of Joe Bidens reelection bid on Sunday.
But behind closed doors, the Senate majority leader was being inundated with concerns from members of his caucus, people familiar with the situation tell POLITICO. And he had a strategy to try and handle them.
Schumer wanted Democrats to present as a united front and handle their woes as a family discussion. And as Democrats face an intense run-up to the election, his actions in the past few weeks could show signs of how Schumer plans to guide his caucus going forward.
https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2024/07/21/joe-biden-drops-out-election/schumer-biden-harris-senate-democrats-dropped-out-00170183
SocialDemocrat61
(6,534 posts)lapucelle
(20,915 posts)Your source doesn't say that.
SocialDemocrat61
(6,534 posts)Please do it with someone else. Im not interested.
But if it will make you happy, Im completely wrong and youre completely right.
mr715
(2,441 posts)"Fight club"
"Mutinous"
Scrivener7
(57,968 posts)mr715
(2,441 posts)I was confused by the noun. It could mean either the "times" as in the world in which we live, or the "Times" referring the the journal of record.
Then I saw the capitalization and my confusion was rectified.
Sad world. Sad Times. Sad times.
Scrivener7
(57,968 posts)617Blue
(2,156 posts)MineralMan
(150,388 posts)Really?
617Blue
(2,156 posts)Scubamatt
(242 posts)on the head. I don't question Schumer's commitment to the cause, but I do think he thinks its still the 1980s, when the Senate was a club and got things done over lunches, drinks and back room discussions. He and many others do not understand or appreciate: 1) the existential threat posed by the orange monster and the cadre of his supporters; AND 2) the way political discourse has shifted over the years to memes/social media flames and the ever present need for clicks. Most of the American public, who do not follow politics like folks on this board do, respond to who they perceive is "strong" and who projects "winning." The lamestream media reinforces this. Unfortunately, Schumer - haltingly reading from a prepared statement about how "outraged" he is at Trump's latest fascist move - doesn't cut it. There is a reason why Newsom, for example, is getting so much traction through his "in your face" posts. They are also good for the morale of the rank and file, a notion that DNC loyalists have zero appreciation of. The Trump Administration has declared war on our Republic. The Republicans are complicit quislings, and the media has been defanged. It's way past time for all Democrats to start talking and acting in ways that reflect exactly what is on the line.
Silent Type
(12,188 posts)Fiendish Thingy
(21,680 posts)I hope their club grows, and Schumer either gets in line or steps aside for a stronger leader (like Murphy or Warren).
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usonian
(22,758 posts)
2. Bernie Sanders and AOC have been touring the country, including deep red districts, to massive applause.

We dinosaurs, who lived through the Civil Rights movement, want fighters, want winners.

Walleye
(43,391 posts)Scrivener7
(57,968 posts)None of us is going to be able to have a quiet chat with Chuck.
And it sounds like those who can do that have done that to no avail.
Walleye
(43,391 posts)mr715
(2,441 posts)Walleye
(43,391 posts)leftstreet
(38,549 posts)If you know people in your base are grumbling about something, make public an example of electeds grumbling about the same thing. It motivates people to think there's hope
jaymac
(140 posts)it's about time. David Hogg was bounced from his job at the DNC because he started a worthy organization Leaders We Deserve, that pledged to primary representatives who were not striving to promote democratic wins.
it seems we have two wings of the democratic party, the corporate dems and the progressive dems. it's time for the corporate dems to step aside because they have not been listening to us, their constituents.
GaYellowDawg
(5,071 posts)I think we're all tired of milksop "leaders" who write "strongly written letters" and narrate poorly written speeches in a monotone.
lapucelle
(20,915 posts)One is an outlier; another is a semi-outlier. Both outliers are older than Schumer and both supported Fetterman in his primary.
Can you tell the rest apart? Do you think that the NYT scribe peddling a divisive narrative could?







fujiyamasan
(1,022 posts)Its that hes been unable to come up with a coherent strategy over the last several months against Trump, and has given in at critical moments.
Hes not an effective leader.
Scrivener7
(57,968 posts)lapucelle
(20,915 posts)breathless narrative, most likely sourced from staffers pushing an agenda. Fight Club? Really?
This isn't news; it's gossip, custom-spun to "raise concerns" and divide Democrats.
Scrivener7
(57,968 posts)themaguffin
(4,875 posts)MorbidButterflyTat
(3,994 posts)"A group of liberal senators is quietly challenging the minority leader..."
"A group of influential liberal senators is directly challenging Senator Chuck Schumers approach..."
Quietly challenging, directly challenging...which is it?
"The coalition of at least half a dozen senators, who call themselves the Fight Club, is unhappy..."
"The mutinous mood of the senators..."
"The effort also amounts to an extraordinary pre-emptive challenge..."
This says absolutely NOTHING. What's the freaking challenge??