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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTrump's Ukraine Deal Is the Wrong Way to Peace in Ukraine

Timothy Snyder thinks the proposed settlement negotiated by Russia and the US would make the world far more dangerous.
https://www.socialeurope.eu/trumps-ukraine-deal-is-the-wrong-way-to-peace-in-ukraine

Last week, Russia attacked Ukrainian civilians with more than 500 drones, cruise missiles, and rockets. Most of these drones were shot down, but the attack hit two apartment buildings in Ternopil, in western Ukraine, killing at least 31 people, including six children. Homes, shops, post offices, and power plants across Ukraine also went up in flames as a result of this barrage. But this war crime only the latest in Russias criminal war was overshadowed by the revelation that Russian President Vladimir Putin and US President Donald Trump have been secretly negotiating a settlement. Reportedly authored by US special envoy Steve Witkoff, a billionaire real-estate developer and crypto-currency mogul, and Kirill Dmitriev, the head of Russias sovereign wealth fund, the 28-point plan is heavily skewed in favor of the Kremlin. Trump has demanded that Ukraine accept this backroom deal by November 27, though he has also said that it may not be his final offer. Besides the basic injustice of allowing an aggressor to decide the outcome of the war it started, there are six fundamental problems with this peace plan.
For starters, it would increase the risk of nuclear war. If Ukraine is pressured to accept terms that amount to defeat, the rest of the world will conclude that deterring a future invasion by Russia, China, or any other nuclear power requires possessing nuclear weapons. Ukraines forced capitulation means nuclear proliferation and a significantly higher chance of a nuclear World War III. That risk reflects the second problem with Trumps peace plan: its implications for an international order that rests on the principle that national borders are inviolable. To be sure, transgressions occur, but they are the exception, not the norm. Endorsing such behavior as Trump would be doing by rewarding Russia for invading Ukraine is so far beyond the pale that it will shock the system. In its current form, the Witkoff-Dmitriev pact risks creating a world in which invasions and wars become routine.
Third, acquiescing to the Kremlins long-standing demands would undermine regional peace and stability. If the terms of the settlement leave Russia stronger than Ukraine, Putin will be encouraged in every possible way legal, moral, psychological, and economic to continue waging war in Europe. Fourth, Trumps plan does not provide credible enforcement mechanisms. Given that Russia has violated every agreement with Ukraine it has ever made, assurances from the Kremlin that it will not attempt to seize more Ukrainian territory are meaningless. US security guarantees also lack substance, especially under an administration that cares little for honesty and fair dealing. The only meaningful deterrent against new Russian aggression is for Ukraine to join NATO which the proposed settlement expressly forbids.
In prioritizing Russias imperial fantasy over Ukraines democratic will, Trumps plan avoids the question of reconstruction the fifth main issue. Peace is more than the temporary absence of hostilities. I am certain that Russia would accept a ceasefire for days or maybe even weeks in exchange for Ukraines eventual capitulation. But real peace means ensuring that Ukraine retains its sovereignty and can defend itself, join alliances, and, most importantly, rebuild. While the proposed settlement does not provide for this, Ukraines allies have advanced perfectly reasonable (and indeed profitable) plans for reconstructing the country and attracting foreign investment. The last, and perhaps most fundamental, problem is process. What we know about history is that securing a durable peace settlement requires involving all concerned parties. Recall that after World War I, the countries regarded as aggressors were shut out of the most critical part of the peace negotiations a decision that contributed to the outbreak of World War II.
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Trump's Ukraine Deal Is the Wrong Way to Peace in Ukraine (Original Post)
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WarGamer
(18,162 posts)1. Latest news shows...
EU actively involved in talks, basic agreement on 18/29 of the core principles with a handful of EU amendments and reductions of ceded territory.
EU is right there, Macron spoke about this today. They're working at ending this thing now.
dpibel
(3,734 posts)3. Ever the optimist!
Good thing Putin was too stupid to invade Ukraine.
Bayard
(28,025 posts)2. I've already held forth on this plan in another thread,
So, I won't do it again, except to say---this is wrong, wrong, WRONG!