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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSo what happens when we awaken one morning and
find that He has demolished the statue of Abraham Lincoln inside the Memorial and has commissioned a statue of himself?
So you think it cannot happen? What if I had posted six months ago that he demolished the East Wing of the venerated White House? Would you have taken me seriously or thought it was some brand of typical PCIntern hyperbole?
Do you understand that I have just asked four, now five, questions? Is there a problem with that? No? And why not?
And you know what that reminds me of?
The gentile says to the rabbi, Why is it that you people always answer a question with a question?
Do we? answers the rabbi.
badhair77
(5,068 posts)Unfortunately, I share many with you. Im constantly fighting being terrified.
popsdenver
(1,190 posts)are actually harbingers of things to come.................
badhair77
(5,068 posts)Im trying not to be incapacitated with fear. We need to be prepared and courageous
popsdenver
(1,190 posts)for every time, since 2016, that I said: "Trump/Republicans/House&Senate/USSC can't do that" I would have more than Musk....
mgardener
(2,246 posts)He is a monster.
He is capable of ANYTHING.
And the Republicans are cowards.
badhair77
(5,068 posts)No one is coming to save us. We have to do it ourselves.
popsdenver
(1,190 posts)are all scratching, chewing, biting, scratching to earn themselves a spot in the TOP 1%
Along with the Republican Senators, Republican House Members, the Republican Supremes, and even Republican State Governors and Republican State Attorney Generals
And they all are individually and corruptly trying to grift as much as possible for themselves......
elleng
(141,749 posts)Fiendish Thingy
(21,688 posts)Do you think he could raise enough money to pay for a statue of himself, as he did with the ballroom?
Do you think the parks service, which controls the Memorial (but not the WH), not to mention the DC police, will sit by idly as the Lincoln statue is torn down?
Just because you can imagine something and type it on the internet, does not make that thing possible, plausible or probable.
No matter what you might imagine, it doesnt change this one absolute truth:
Trump is not omnipotent, and the states and the people are not powerless
AZJonnie
(2,443 posts)So the argument that this couldn't happen "because money" is not especially compelling.
I *absolutely* could imagine IQ47 WANTING to do exactly what PCIntern suggests. You are right to say "that don't make it so", of course. But it's not preposterous to suggest he might do that, because demolishing the Rose Garden and the East Wing are already done, and at least in the case of the East Wing, there were steps that SHOULD have happened beforehand, which did not. And he has his cronies everywhere, including the Park Service. Ergo it's not hard to imagine that their "standing idly by" could indeed happen.
Also, your last statement, though true, is not proof any particular thing cannot happen. Clearly Trump is able to accomplish a great deal of evil despite the public having a non-zero amount of power. We only have power in certain arenas/aspects, and this may not be one of them
A valid Venn diagram to illustrate this point could be easily conjured.
KS Toronado
(22,331 posts)he'd plant a bomb to destroy Lincoln sitting in his chair and blame it on radial antifa terrorists and replace
it with one of himself in gold of course. They are attempting to remove all history involving slavery.
USS_Dauntless
(139 posts)I don't know if it was but it would not shock me in the LEAST. God, I HATE HIM!!!!!
KS Toronado
(22,331 posts)plus we know he'll do anything, fake an ear wound, kill Epstein, bomb Venezuelan fishermen, etc etc
USS_Dauntless
(139 posts)never talks about what happened in Butler County, PA. Almost like he didn't get shot or even grazed!
mgardener
(2,246 posts)He is closing air space in another country.
He is murdering citizens in boats without a trial.
He is sending troops into cities to terrorize and victimize.
RFK jr is dismantling our health safety net for communicable disease.
American citizens will be cold, hungry and sick.
Elise Stefanik is saying nothing.
Neither are the rest of them
Fiendish Thingy
(21,688 posts)And I have seen no factual evidence that Venezuelan airspace is actually closed, just Trumps tweet.
This administration commits atrocities daily, and is depending on our exhaustion for their success.
While Trump has much power, he has very little actual control beyond the executive branch.
Self-care is critical for effective resistance, so yes, I do my best to get a good nights sleep, and that is no measure of, or reflection of my conscience.
PS- Im not sure why you mentioned Stefanik specifically.
EarthAbides
(409 posts)And what the hell is the fascist pig going to do with the reflection pool at the Lincoln Memorial?
PCIntern
(27,869 posts)tinrobot
(11,888 posts)It will dwarf the one at the Playboy Mansion.
Mossfern
(4,558 posts)and spa.
Such a simple answer.
Attilatheblond
(7,924 posts)in bikinis to strut around like he had Hubba do at Mar-A-Lardo
MizLibby
(387 posts)Fiendish Thingy
(21,688 posts)Nothing a good coat of gold paint wont fix.
jmowreader
(52,806 posts)jmowreader
(52,806 posts)The stupid bastard thinks President Biden put it there, so it's gotta go.
Gaugamela
(3,116 posts)PCIntern
(27,869 posts)And is used in discussions and negotiations routinely.
To answer your question on a more personal level, oftentimes over the last 21 years Ive been here, I have made statements which turned out to be true, which were first negated when proffered. I am not alone in that regard, many people here have said things which are at first criticized for their negativity, and then grudgingly accepted as occurrence.
Glaisne
(611 posts)of the government conservatives have been dreaming of for 50-80 years!
ALBliberal
(3,159 posts)Though to some of us doesnt feel that way. Of losing all norms. Of being conditioned. And no longer being shocked. My guess? All part of 2025 playbook.
He started with his residence. Got some latitude. And here we are.
BattleRow
(2,062 posts)and unbelievably awful..on SO many levels..(shaking head ).
Hope22
(4,376 posts)There wasnt even a peep of disgust out of the talking heads when he demolished the East Wing with reckless abandon. Pieces from the structure itself had value. Who knows what they did with the furnishings and art. My guess is it did not go back into the wH inventory. If it can be stolen it will be. Imagine Lincoln melted down before the memo goes out that it is missing.
Martin Eden
(15,222 posts)Remains to be seen if he builds the huge Arc de Trump on the National Mall.
Trueblue Texan
(4,067 posts)Martin Eden
(15,222 posts)Nor should a pedo convicted felon.
Attilatheblond
(7,924 posts)I got your drift.
greatauntoftriplets
(178,547 posts)Isn't it, though?
peggysue2
(12,329 posts)OMG, please not the iconic Lincoln memorial. People come from all over the country and world to visit the memorial, have their pictures taken at the foot of Lincoln's monument.
Yet Trump has already boasted he's a far better president than Lincoln or Washington ever were.
It's only the lack of imagination to think the Narcissist-in-Chief wouldn't be tempted to replace Lincoln's likeness with his own, the self-proclaimed King gazing over his conquered territory.
Jack Valentino
(4,114 posts)has started a nuclear war via 'Truth Post' in the middle of the night,
and we are mostly incinerated by nuclear weapons in our sleep???
Sorry, another question you forgot to ask here.
(I suppose I would rather it happened in my sleep, as I would be oblivious of it---
unlike in the films 'Threads', 'The Day After', or 'Miracle Mile'.......)
Twenty-Fifth Amendment NOW!
Or at least "86 47" by whatever means.
BobsYourUncle
(192 posts)said Id better not tell you now.
Dyedinthewoolliberal
(16,176 posts)If you have ever been hit really hard in the face, it can be a stunning blow. It takes a bit to clear your head and re-focus. America is getting hit in the face continually, metaphorically speaking, with all the outrageous and over the top actions and antics of this president and his merry band of inept staffers. I hope that most of the country will come back to reality soon and realize, 'yes, he is as horrible as we thought' and get to work getting rid of him. Not sure how long that will take though and I'm hoping the thin line of the court system holds him in check long enough for us to recover................
RandySF
(80,212 posts)I warned everyone I could last year.
Bayard
(28,025 posts)Because he freed the slaves.
He's going to continue trying to remake America, figuratively and literally.
dem4decades
(13,451 posts)I mean, he will be on the shitter, with a phone in his tiny hands, and his pants down so low you can see those swollen ankles.
orangecrush
(27,731 posts)He tore down half the fucking white house and nothing happened.
I will be surprised if the Lincoln Memorial and reflecting pool survive him.
It will be Miller's dream come true
kimbutgar
(26,543 posts)You know hes thinking about it!
BidenRocks
(2,579 posts)I want Marine guards on every one of our Washington Monuments.
Under arms, shoot to kill.
Now we're protecting government property.
GoCubsGo
(34,577 posts)Yet here we are. East Wing gone. Rose Garden gone. The Oval Office now looks like a Russian bordello, and probably bugged to the hilt by Russian assets. I put nothing past that demented motherfucker, especially when all of his previous outrages have been met with a big shrug by his own fucking party, and everyone else who has any sort of control over him.
hay rick
(9,239 posts)PikaBlue
(394 posts)I have come to accept that this regime, supported by a shameful cohort of ignorant, selfish, hateful American citizens, is going to burn it all down. Before you chide me for my seeming pessimism, I should probably share that my predominant philosophy is that the glass is not only half full, I am blessed with my own personal beer fairy who generously leaves the other 5 1/2 cans of the six pack chilling in my frig. I accept that there may be tremendous heartbreak before we can reach Mount Doom and dispose of the ring. My focus is on what kind of country do we want to rebuild. I want an end to the Electoral College which gives substantial over representation to the minority of rural voters. I want term limits. I want a strict code of conduct for justices appointed to our Supreme Court, as well as censure mechanisms with teeth. I want universal health care, liveable wage structures, an end to the Citizens United. I want a public school system that is first class. I want private equity firms out of the residential real estate market. I want genuine equality and inclusiveness. I want to redefine the role of POTUS and a cap on the powers accorded to that position. I want to focus on how we rebuild, not with a "wish list" but with a concrete list of demands and the courage to not back down.
lostnfound
(17,324 posts)We eat the last of the food grown and delivered by Americas sad hunted immigrants.
We hope for a propitious lightning strike
We pray for heart transplants for all of our MAGA citizenry.
We daydream about a rescue of America that isnt coming.
We read too much and widen the gap between ourselves and the illiterate ones.