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LetMyPeopleVote

(173,422 posts)
Sun Nov 30, 2025, 05:10 PM Sunday

'It's murder. Period': George Conway warns Hegseth that Trump may not be able to save him

Hegseth may have confessed

'It's murder. Period': George Conway warns Hegseth that Trump may not be able to save him

Raw Story (@rawstory.com) 2025-11-29T20:00:30.730Z

https://www.rawstory.com/hegseth-2674355077

Reacting to a Washington Post report that Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth instructed military officials to “kill them all,” in an attack on what the Donald Trump administration has labeled “narco-terrorists,” attorney George Conway claimed the former Fox personality faces a wide array of criminal charges that may be beyond the president’s reach.

According to the report, there were two survivors of initial attack who were then blown up in the water with a second launch, which has only increased the outrage over the unlawful attacks.

On Saturday morning, a fuming Conway told the hosts of MS NOW’s “The Weekend,” Hegseth could be in a heap of trouble for cold-blooded murder.

“There is no war between us, Venezuela and these people were not sailors or soldiers fighting with weapons against us, so that the law of war doesn't even [apply],” he explained. “You don't even get to the law of war. But even if it were, even if these guys were a naval ship armed to the teeth and the ship was blown up and these guys were in the water, firing against them would be an act — would be a violation of the laws of war.”

“No matter how you look at this, you can apply civilian law, military law, the Uniform Code of Military Justice, international law, foreign law, domestic law, federal law, state law. No matter what legal regime you apply to, the second strike, it's murder. Period,” he added. “It's not even an argument — that's how outrageous this is.”

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'It's murder. Period': George Conway warns Hegseth that Trump may not be able to save him (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote Sunday OP
Yeah, the moment when Hegseth realizes he's the fall guy. thought crime Sunday #1
Plenty of room - UNDER the Trump bus Norrrm Sunday #3
U-boat commander Heinz-Wilhelm Eck was shot for killing the survivors of a sunk target. Norrrm Sunday #2
+1 dalton99a Sunday #5
This is totally disgusting, send that maniac to the slammer. Dave Bowman Sunday #4
Meanwhile, Trump doesn't seem to mind being called a fascist... AntiFascist Sunday #6
Goin where streams of whiskey are flowin struggle4progress Monday #7

Norrrm

(3,627 posts)
2. U-boat commander Heinz-Wilhelm Eck was shot for killing the survivors of a sunk target.
Sun Nov 30, 2025, 05:20 PM
Sunday
https://www.democraticunderground.com/11664318

On this day, November 30, 1945, U-boat commander Heinz-Wilhelm Eck was shot for killing the survivors of a sunk target.

Eck's crime was in war, not some meaningless statement pretending war.

dalton99a

(91,449 posts)
5. +1
Sun Nov 30, 2025, 06:19 PM
Sunday
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Peleus

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Despite the secret nature of U-852's mission, her captain Heinz-Wilhelm Eck decided to attack the Peleus; tracking her until nightfall, U-852 closed with her target on the surface and fired two torpedoes at close range. Peleus was hit, the first exploding in the number two hold, the second just aft in the number three hold. She quickly broke up, sinking in three minutes; all that was left of her was flotsam, including several liferafts, and the survivors of her crew, perhaps half their number.

Eck took two men aboard for interrogation, Agis Kefalas, the third officer, and Pierre Neuman, a seaman; having established her name and details, he returned them to their raft. At this point Eck decided he must hide the evidence of his action by destroying the debris, including the life-rafts (and, by implication, the men on them). For the next five hours, until 1 A.M. on the 14th, U-852 moved around the debris field, firing with her guns, small arms and grenades. Despite these efforts, not all the wreckage was destroyed, and four of the crew survived, though one, Kefalas, died later of a wound in his arm.

The other three survivors were Antonios Liossis, chief officer, Dimitrios Argiros, a seaman, and Rocco Said, a stoker. After drifting for over a month, they were rescued on 20 April by the Portuguese vessel Alexandre Silva and taken to Lobito, in Angola. The incident was reported to British naval authorities, and affidavits taken from the three men. On 2 May 1944 U-852 was attacked and captured after running aground upon a reef at Cape Guardafui, northern Somalia, in the Indian Ocean; the surviving members of her crew were taken prisoner.

At the end of the war, in October 1945, five members of her crew were tried as war criminals and convicted. Three (Eck, August Hoffman, 2nd watch officer, and Walter Weispfennig, boat's doctor) were executed, and two others, Hans Lenz, chief engineer, and Wolfgang Schwender, Pilot, were imprisoned.

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AntiFascist

(13,713 posts)
6. Meanwhile, Trump doesn't seem to mind being called a fascist...
Sun Nov 30, 2025, 09:56 PM
Sunday

"I don't mind" said Trump when he told Mamdani to go ahead and say it!

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