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barbtries

(31,026 posts)
Tue Dec 2, 2025, 12:40 PM Tuesday

it's not just the crimes.

it's not just the murdering of people on manufactured pretexts. It's the delight they take in doing so.

it's not just the random and gratuitous brutality they engage in. it's that they enjoy it.

psychopathy is on full display. they celebrate it.

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it's not just the crimes. (Original Post) barbtries Tuesday OP
Jan 6th gleeful delight pfitz59 Tuesday #1
top of the DU home page right now: barbtries Tuesday #3
Recommended. H2O Man Tuesday #2
They want their gullible magats to feel like "Hannibal Lecter" Justice matters. Tuesday #4
It is also wrong that they are giving unlawful orders to service members Redleg Tuesday #5
i believe barbtries Tuesday #6
And it will take courage for them to resist Redleg Tuesday #9
Come on. It's the Fog of War Crimes! leftstreet Tuesday #7
the fog of not a war, barbtries Tuesday #11
The only "fog" is their constant lies. GoodRaisin Yesterday #18
He's fucked up the economy Warpy Tuesday #8
i don't think he'll ever resign. barbtries Tuesday #10
One would think Cirsium Tuesday #12
on what evidence? barbtries Tuesday #13
Oh, I heartily agree with you Cirsium Tuesday #17
When you put it that way you have put it the best way. Good on you. twodogsbarking Tuesday #14
Its called sadism... and the fact that when they slightlv Tuesday #15
shit happens when u elect a criminal nazi. pansypoo53219 Tuesday #16
yup Skittles Yesterday #19
So true malaise Yesterday #20

pfitz59

(12,193 posts)
1. Jan 6th gleeful delight
Tue Dec 2, 2025, 01:44 PM
Tuesday

reports said Trump was glued to the coverage and couldn't be moved. Also, modern command centers have real time satelite and drone imaging. I wouldn't be surprised if Trump was in an easy chair, sporting a toothpick, while it all went down.

barbtries

(31,026 posts)
3. top of the DU home page right now:
Tue Dec 2, 2025, 01:54 PM
Tuesday

"'I watched it live', Hegseth told Fox the day after September strike where shipwreck survivors were killed"

it's not even credible that the order to murder the survivors did not come from him. he said it, then he leaned in eagerly to watch two humans die horribly.

Justice matters.

(9,184 posts)
4. They want their gullible magats to feel like "Hannibal Lecter"
Tue Dec 2, 2025, 02:24 PM
Tuesday

was the only one campaign promise they held.

Redleg

(6,801 posts)
5. It is also wrong that they are giving unlawful orders to service members
Tue Dec 2, 2025, 02:31 PM
Tuesday

In essence expecting service members to violate their oath of office or enlistment

barbtries

(31,026 posts)
6. i believe
Tue Dec 2, 2025, 02:34 PM
Tuesday

it's likely that many of the service members are so in the tank for krasnov they don't think what they're doing is a crime. that they've soaked up the psychopathy and are brainwashed or were always that way.

for the rest, I feel for them and hope they can summon the courage to refuse unlawful orders.

GoodRaisin

(10,668 posts)
18. The only "fog" is their constant lies.
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 01:03 AM
Yesterday

Some of the country is starting to see through their fake fog and notice the murder. The Secretary of Murders is starting to feel the heat.

Warpy

(114,314 posts)
8. He's fucked up the economy
Tue Dec 2, 2025, 02:40 PM
Tuesday

and you can bet spending will be down this retail season because people are afraid of what's coming. Next year will be worse as his stupid tariffs continue to bite hard and I have a feeling he'll resign to enjoy his pension some time after the midterms when Congress is no longer a simple rubber stamp and begins to revisit some of the outrages contained in his Bloated Bill for Billionaires. He is really, really not going to like dealing with an equal branch of government.

barbtries

(31,026 posts)
10. i don't think he'll ever resign.
Tue Dec 2, 2025, 02:48 PM
Tuesday

i think he'll leave the white house on a gurney. sooner the better.

i'm loathe to spend as usual this holiday season. though i'm on SS and medicare, my costs are still going to be prohibitive health care wise and every other normal bill i pay monthly. I work but only part time and I'm just economically more scared than I've been in about 20 years.

Cirsium

(3,246 posts)
12. One would think
Tue Dec 2, 2025, 02:52 PM
Tuesday

One would think that there would be consensus here about the "murdering of people on manufactured pretexts." Yet I just read a post calling it "legal" and "appropriate."

barbtries

(31,026 posts)
13. on what evidence?
Tue Dec 2, 2025, 03:06 PM
Tuesday

if they can justify it legally in my world that will not make it right. but i am not at all convinced that they can.

what they say is their pretext does not pass the smell test. If this "had" to happen, they would have had to present the case to Congress to make it legal, I believe. Like Iraq, which they lied their asses off to get that abomination to happen.

twodogsbarking

(17,128 posts)
14. When you put it that way you have put it the best way. Good on you.
Tue Dec 2, 2025, 03:11 PM
Tuesday

“The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater.”
―Frank Zappa

slightlv

(7,165 posts)
15. Its called sadism... and the fact that when they
Tue Dec 2, 2025, 03:21 PM
Tuesday

promote any religion whatsoever, it's always the Old Testament, proves it. The OT of the Bible is full of sadistic behaviors and that's really the only part of the bible they profess. And they will always end up turning to it in the end... because it's the last refuge of the stranded man.

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