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bigtree

(85,998 posts)
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 02:52 PM Dec 2012

“It’s a shit show”

from Buzzfeed: http://www.buzzfeed.com/johnstanton/are-these-guys-really-in-charge-of-the-republican


WASHINGTON — Forget the Republican Party’s need to rebrand itself. Forget party elders' promises that they will start reaching out to minorities. And forget the supposed soul-searching that is meant to sweep over the GOP as it undergoes a serious reexamination of its future.

Right now, Republicans are having trouble even getting out of their own way.

Conservative groups are splintering. The Romney campaign has dissolved into backbiting and billing disputes. A “plan B” to avert the fiscal cliff proved to be a colossal embarrassment. A teetotaling Idaho senator has been charged with drunk driving. But the most striking symptom of the GOP’s horrible moment is the party’s inability to get done what virtually everyone here knows is in its political best interest: A hasty surrender.

It’s difficult to find a Republican operative who is willing to say on the record that going over the fiscal cliff next Tuesday is a good idea. Provoking a crisis is bad politics: Republicans are resigned to taking the blame. And it’s bad for their policy agenda: They will likely be cornered into a broader tax hike than the best deal they could get from President Barack Obama today, and with none of the spending cuts that might now be on the table.

“It’s a shit show,” one prominent Republican told BuzzFeed of the GOP’s messaging position. “Tax rates are going to go up on everyone, and we’re going to get the blame.”


read: http://www.buzzfeed.com/johnstanton/are-these-guys-really-in-charge-of-the-republican


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“It’s a shit show” (Original Post) bigtree Dec 2012 OP
You fucking assholes voted to spend more money on the military everytime Bush asked for it. L0oniX Dec 2012 #1
THey're fucking themselves malaise Dec 2012 #19
K&R patrice Dec 2012 #2
Tax rates are going to go up on everyone, and we’re going to get the blame.” lunasun Dec 2012 #3
Exactly, if the US mediawhore contingent can blame Pres Obama and the Dems, Cha Dec 2012 #20
Couldn't have happened to a more deserving bunch of folks. Barack_America Dec 2012 #4
they cause hardship for the American people Skittles Dec 2012 #5
they should get the blame. barbtries Dec 2012 #6
No Matter What Happens, Payroll Taxes Are DEFNINITELY Going Up! Skraxx Dec 2012 #7
A very wise man once told me Sherman A1 Dec 2012 #8
I don't think Republicans care about tax rates any more than a plant 'cares' about sunlight. randome Dec 2012 #9
Who ever thought a "shit show" would be so much fun? iemitsu Dec 2012 #10
"We fart in America's face." - Republican Torture Freaks (R) Berlum Dec 2012 #11
Um, would you mind a warning before you go that "graphic"? whathehell Dec 2012 #23
Obama has played the Republicans like a fiddle. For revenge. DevonRex Dec 2012 #12
I am still waiting to see what the excuse will be Rex Dec 2012 #16
After we go off the cliff and taxes go up DevonRex Dec 2012 #22
Haha you jest, but yeah Rex Dec 2012 #27
I love that picture. JoeyT Dec 2012 #13
WAIT...you mean after 30 years of horrible policy Rex Dec 2012 #14
The mainstream media will blame Obama 24/7 sellitman Dec 2012 #15
That will be nothing new. The M$M Rex Dec 2012 #17
Boneheads days are numbered madokie Dec 2012 #18
Wait mtasselin Dec 2012 #21
That 98%? That was the fiscal cliff. I'm happy that we gave it to him. n/t eggplant Dec 2012 #24
If I didnt trust him I wouldn"t of voted for him sellitman Dec 2012 #25
And well they should be blamed! vlyons Dec 2012 #26
We were doing fine under the Clinton era tax rates. Let it go. Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #28
the gop should officially change its name to "shit show." arely staircase Dec 2012 #29
Only a few more days now!! But Washington loves to toy with liberals and then screw them over. So.. stillwaiting Dec 2012 #30
K & R Scurrilous Dec 2012 #31
 

L0oniX

(31,493 posts)
1. You fucking assholes voted to spend more money on the military everytime Bush asked for it.
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 02:55 PM
Dec 2012

Now you want the poor and elderly to pay for it! Fuck you GOP!

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
3. Tax rates are going to go up on everyone, and we’re going to get the blame.”
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 03:13 PM
Dec 2012

A lot of the media seems to be blaming Obama
underinformed just go with what their ears hear

Cha

(297,282 posts)
20. Exactly, if the US mediawhore contingent can blame Pres Obama and the Dems,
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 05:26 PM
Dec 2012

they will.

They're the same media they've been for the last 12 years that I've been watching their lazy gopropaganda plutocratic a$$.

Skraxx

(2,977 posts)
7. No Matter What Happens, Payroll Taxes Are DEFNINITELY Going Up!
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 03:36 PM
Dec 2012

And yup, Repubs will get the blame for that VERY noticeable change that pretty much everyone that gets a paycheck is going to notice.

Ha Ha!

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
8. A very wise man once told me
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 03:37 PM
Dec 2012

"Most wounds are self inflicted", I believe that bit of wisdom applies in this case.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
9. I don't think Republicans care about tax rates any more than a plant 'cares' about sunlight.
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 03:43 PM
Dec 2012

It's an issue they latched onto but it has no philosophical underpinnings other than greed and 'fuck everyone else'.

iemitsu

(3,888 posts)
10. Who ever thought a "shit show" would be so much fun?
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 03:45 PM
Dec 2012

The best part is how clearly the "shit show" demonstrates that republicans are trying to serve two masters and what happens when those masters' goals diverge.
Both parties, it seems, would have been better off if they had avoided creating the artificial crisis we are calling, "the fiscal cliff". While it is clear that both parties planned (in true Shock Doctrine fashion) to use "the cliff" to justify further cuts, to programs that help working Americans, and to chip away at Social Security, what is actually happening is their game is being exposed.
Both parties are pushing agendas that American citizens don't want and don't support. If the political parties were working together, some form of those agendas would have already been passed. But because some republicans are so insistent on draconian cuts, for most to subsidize the few, the game has been delayed giving Americans time to ponder the circumstances that led to the crisis.
Democrats have had time to call their congress-people and the President to complain about Social Security cuts (which have no business being part of the discussion), Republicans are asking themselves, "who do my elected representatives really work for, me or the 1%?", and all Americans are coming to realize that we are being played by politicians (and the media), who are not interested in doing what is right or what is good for our country.
No matter what they say, no governing body wants that sort of transparency.

DevonRex

(22,541 posts)
12. Obama has played the Republicans like a fiddle. For revenge.
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 04:53 PM
Dec 2012

Every offer has gotten smaller. He knows they won't take any offer he makes. So they look more foolish for not having taken previous, more generous offers. At first I wondered why he made so many. Now I realize it was to keep making them look stupid. To keep them in disarray. Now they're imploding.

Major newspapers are calling them incapable of governing. Now, even they accept the blame. At last.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
16. I am still waiting to see what the excuse will be
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 05:19 PM
Dec 2012

when nothing gets cut and the GOP caves in finally and gives Obama whatever he wants. They cannot have far to go to being a destroyed party and all our POTUS has to do is just keep feeding them rope.

DevonRex

(22,541 posts)
22. After we go off the cliff and taxes go up
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 05:33 PM
Dec 2012

then they'll try to claim that they're then cutting taxes. See??? It's all so simple.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
27. Haha you jest, but yeah
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 11:12 PM
Dec 2012

they will SO do that...while telling their flock on Foxnews how scary Obamacare is. A form of longterm brain rot imo.

JoeyT

(6,785 posts)
13. I love that picture.
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 05:12 PM
Dec 2012

Cantor looks like he's thinking "If it weren't for all these cameras I'd shank that orange motherfucker.".

Bohner looks drunk (as usual) and McConnell looks high, so it's not like anyone could stop him.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
14. WAIT...you mean after 30 years of horrible policy
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 05:15 PM
Dec 2012

and denying any wrong doing, the GOP is going to FINALLY for the FIRST time take some blame?

BULLSHIT.

They ARE the problem.

sellitman

(11,607 posts)
15. The mainstream media will blame Obama 24/7
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 05:18 PM
Dec 2012

If you think Congress will get the blame you are delusional.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
17. That will be nothing new. The M$M
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 05:20 PM
Dec 2012

will do whatever their paymasters tell them to do. Not like they are an objective group of reporters.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
18. Boneheads days are numbered
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 05:26 PM
Dec 2012

check out pretty boy and the chin, both of them have that, bonehead you are so gone, look in their eyes

mtasselin

(666 posts)
21. Wait
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 05:32 PM
Dec 2012

Until a deal gets done an even though I voted for the prez twice I can't say that I trust him. In the past he has given in to those bastards to often an remember what boner said last year that he got 98% of what he wanted. Happy New Year to all my DU friends.

sellitman

(11,607 posts)
25. If I didnt trust him I wouldn"t of voted for him
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 06:06 PM
Dec 2012

Trust has nothing to do with the outcome of this.

He will do what he feels is best. Will I agree with all of it? Probably not.

Still I know he will do his best.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
26. And well they should be blamed!
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 06:29 PM
Dec 2012

This is the party that enabled GW Bush to wage 2 foreign wars of adventure on the tax payers' credit card. Created a drug benefit without paying for it, but refuses to let medicare & medicaid bargain collectively with Pharma for better pricing. They have given huge tax breaks to corporfations, waged war on women, and tried to suppress Dem voters. This is not just the party of stupid, it's intellectually dishonest. I hate them all. Big time!

stillwaiting

(3,795 posts)
30. Only a few more days now!! But Washington loves to toy with liberals and then screw them over. So..
Sat Dec 29, 2012, 01:01 PM
Dec 2012

... not holding my breath that's for sure.

I'd love to be happy on Tuesday though!

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