Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

applegrove

(132,222 posts)
Fri Dec 12, 2025, 12:12 PM Dec 2025

Paul Krugman: The Call Is Coming From Inside the White House

The Call Is Coming From Inside the White House

December 12, 2025 at 7:06 am EST By Taegan Goddard 38 Comments

https://politicalwire.com/2025/12/12/the-call-is-coming-from-inside-the-white-house/


Paul Krugman: “To update Samuel Johnson, these days national security is the last refuge of a scoundrel. According to Donald Trump, anything he doesn’t like is a threat to national security. Question his clearly illegal tariffs? You’re a dark and sinister force trying to undermine America. When the New York Times reported on signs that age may be taking a toll on Trump’s stamina, he denounced the reporting as ‘seditious, maybe even treasonous.’”

“But some of America’s allies — and many of us here at home — are becoming increasingly open about saying that the real danger is coming from inside the White House: Trump himself has become the biggest security threat facing the U.S. and, indeed, all the world’s democracies.”
42 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Paul Krugman: The Call Is Coming From Inside the White House (Original Post) applegrove Dec 2025 OP
Kick dalton99a Dec 2025 #1
if we did not know how cozy he is with putin, bin salman and his pther playmates rampartd Dec 2025 #36
Wow, who would have thought such a thing? nt Disaffected Dec 2025 #2
I know, right? debsy Dec 2025 #11
I know many members of the military and some Rs realize how dangerous this lunatic is. flashman13 Dec 2025 #3
The obvious answer to the question is: No. Justice matters. Dec 2025 #9
Agreed popsdenver Dec 2025 #14
Wisconsin Senator Ron Johnson appears to be on Putin's payroll Dr. T Dec 2025 #19
I will point out that in a large bipartisan vote the Indiana Senate shut Trump down. flashman13 Dec 2025 #31
They're too worried about their business interests and their bank accounts wolfie001 Dec 2025 #23
As vile and despicable... GiqueCee Dec 2025 #4
Trump and Putin pose the greatest threat to the world since WWII. Irish_Dem Dec 2025 #5
According to the latest polls orangecrush Dec 2025 #7
8 out of 10 Republicans approve of how Trump is handling the presidency. Irish_Dem Dec 2025 #10
Many will SAY they support him when responding to polls but don't really. Then there's the 30% of gop... cultists. nt wiggs Dec 2025 #15
I don't think there will be 50% false reports. Irish_Dem Dec 2025 #18
Americans? No, Republicans! dem4decades Dec 2025 #26
Yes they don't even deserve to be called Americans any more. They are Russian. Irish_Dem Dec 2025 #29
Remember the two assholes in the t shirts that said "I'd rather be Russian dem4decades Dec 2025 #30
They got their wish. Trump has turned us into a Russian colony. Irish_Dem Dec 2025 #37
Well, they certainly seem to support Russia.. dedl67 Dec 2025 #38
You and I know they wouldn't last two days in Russia. Irish_Dem Dec 2025 #39
Great article and right on the money. I subscribe to get all Krugman's posts by email. Martin68 Dec 2025 #6
The Threats From Inside gfarber Dec 2025 #8
Awesome! Joinfortmill Dec 2025 #25
For those who want to read the original. frogstar0 Dec 2025 #12
The highlighted link "Paul Krugman" in the body of applegrove Dec 2025 #13
Thanks for sharing. yellow dahlia Dec 2025 #22
the number of americans who would disapprove would go up if pundits, journalists, MSM, analysts would wiggs Dec 2025 #16
Fans of "Yes (Prime) Minister" are well aware of "security issues" as a catchall fallback. nt eppur_se_muova Dec 2025 #17
I disagree Snackshack Dec 2025 #20
TSF has been a clear and present danger to this country since the first time he was raccoon Dec 2025 #21
He's just figuring that out? Joinfortmill Dec 2025 #24
No ... but he just grew enough spine to put his true thoughts into print FakeNoose Dec 2025 #27
Krugman has been at the forefront of the inequality end-stage-capitalism applegrove Dec 2025 #33
We've been saying that for years here. We can't be the only ones so it seems too many are out of touch Deuxcents Dec 2025 #28
By his own standards, Traitor Trump should be arrested for questioning Biden's health and stamina. Norrrm Dec 2025 #32
Trump is a threat to human life on the entire PLANET, with his demented fingers on Jack Valentino Dec 2025 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author jfz9580m Dec 2025 #35
... OldBaldy1701E Dec 2025 #40
And his advisors and cabinet Clouds Passing Dec 2025 #41
This is like an allusion to a horror movie. . . Stargleamer Dec 2025 #42

dalton99a

(94,140 posts)
1. Kick
Fri Dec 12, 2025, 12:21 PM
Dec 2025
Even as he imposes 50 percent tariffs to limit the menace of Chinese kitchen cabinets, Trump has decided to allow China to buy the advanced Nvidia semiconductor chips that power many AI models. Bear in mind that the U.S. lead in cutting-edge technology is one of our few advantages in geopolitical competition with China, and this gift to the Chinese has been strongly criticized by every genuine national security expert that I know. (Our other big advantage used to be that we had so many strong allies, but Trump has ended that.)

But the answer is simple: Trump doesn’t care at all about national security, or for that matter America’s national interests. Instead, it’s all about him: reportedly Trump took the decision to allow the Chinese to have the advanced Nvidia chips after personal lobbying by Jensen Huang, the CEO of Nvidia. Clearly Chinese exporters of furniture and kitchen cabinetry need to get coached by Steve Witkoff.

Just to be clear, I am not a free trade purist. I am not saying national security should be ignored or underplayed when setting economic policy. On the contrary, in a world in which China is arguably the world’s leading superpower, in which Putin feels free to launch a war of conquest on Europe’s doorstep, national security considerations are critically important. In fact, it’s arguable that the twin threats from China and Russia have rendered the US far more vulnerable than at any other period in our lifetimes.

Yet the biggest threats to U.S. national security aren’t coming from Beijing or Moscow. They’re coming straight out of the Oval Office.

rampartd

(4,634 posts)
36. if we did not know how cozy he is with putin, bin salman and his pther playmates
Sat Dec 13, 2025, 06:54 AM
Dec 2025

we should have guessed when the classified documents were seized.

national security is not a factor in the trump decision making process.

flashman13

(2,403 posts)
3. I know many members of the military and some Rs realize how dangerous this lunatic is.
Fri Dec 12, 2025, 12:50 PM
Dec 2025

The question is - are any of them willing to do something about it?

Justice matters.

(9,790 posts)
9. The obvious answer to the question is: No.
Fri Dec 12, 2025, 01:35 PM
Dec 2025

Not one of them "Brave" enough to do something "effective" (something that will save the world).

popsdenver

(2,307 posts)
14. Agreed
Fri Dec 12, 2025, 02:19 PM
Dec 2025

The Republican House and Senate, as well as the Republican justices in the USSC all KNEW early on in his first term that he was a pawn of Russia, acting in countless different arenas to satisfy Putin......

They all had the chance, not just once, but twice to take care of the Frankenstein's Monster THEY and the CORPORTIONS created and "installed" in the White House......and now, they don't know how to get rid of him and retain his MAGAot voters........

Soooooo, now they are all now kicking, scratching, biting, and acting out to scramble to try to lock in a place in the upper 1%

We are 10 years past the point of: KATIE BAR THE DOOR

Dr. T

(647 posts)
19. Wisconsin Senator Ron Johnson appears to be on Putin's payroll
Fri Dec 12, 2025, 04:11 PM
Dec 2025

so he isn't going to stand up to Comrade Donnie.

flashman13

(2,403 posts)
31. I will point out that in a large bipartisan vote the Indiana Senate shut Trump down.
Fri Dec 12, 2025, 09:45 PM
Dec 2025

Trump put on a full court press and they said NO.

I don't expect the upper echelons around Trump to do anything. He owns them. No one individual will have any effect. But I do see increasing resistance at lower levels. It's beginning to happen in the House because his primary threats are becoming hollow.

And he is clearly crazy and deteriorating fast.

wolfie001

(7,667 posts)
23. They're too worried about their business interests and their bank accounts
Fri Dec 12, 2025, 08:06 PM
Dec 2025

Those things "trump" any good they should be doing.

GiqueCee

(4,259 posts)
4. As vile and despicable...
Fri Dec 12, 2025, 12:52 PM
Dec 2025

... as Trump so obviously is, the lowlife, brain-dead skidmarks that still support him are, in a sense, even worse, not least because there are so many of them. But they are not nearly so numerous as they would have us believe; they are seriously outnumbered. And we're fed up to the teeth with their horseshit.

Irish_Dem

(81,277 posts)
5. Trump and Putin pose the greatest threat to the world since WWII.
Fri Dec 12, 2025, 12:58 PM
Dec 2025

And so many Americans are happy with this.

Irish_Dem

(81,277 posts)
10. 8 out of 10 Republicans approve of how Trump is handling the presidency.
Fri Dec 12, 2025, 01:42 PM
Dec 2025

This shows widespread support for Trump by GOP voters.

He is slipping on economy and immigration.
But his general handling of the presidency is solid.

https://apnorc.org/projects/trumps-approval-rating-slips-on-the-economy-and-immigration/

wiggs

(8,812 posts)
15. Many will SAY they support him when responding to polls but don't really. Then there's the 30% of gop... cultists. nt
Fri Dec 12, 2025, 02:36 PM
Dec 2025

dem4decades

(14,061 posts)
30. Remember the two assholes in the t shirts that said "I'd rather be Russian
Fri Dec 12, 2025, 09:44 PM
Dec 2025

Than a Democrat"¿ They actually brag about it. 7

dedl67

(223 posts)
38. Well, they certainly seem to support Russia..
Sat Dec 13, 2025, 09:12 AM
Dec 2025

But most could never really be Russian. Russians are tough people. I have spent time in Russia, in Siberia in fact. Whatever one thinks of Russia, the people are tough and able to endure a lot. Most of these Americans who praise Russia are creampuffs who wouldn't last two weeks in Russia.

Irish_Dem

(81,277 posts)
39. You and I know they wouldn't last two days in Russia.
Sat Dec 13, 2025, 09:34 AM
Dec 2025

Americans are spoiled and soft.

 

gfarber

(278 posts)
8. The Threats From Inside
Fri Dec 12, 2025, 01:17 PM
Dec 2025

There once was a man in D.C.,
For whom “threats” were whoever disagreed.
If you questioned his tariffs,
He’d brand you nefarious,
A foe to the land of the free.

When reporters wrote things he found grim,
Like concerns ’bout the age wearing him thin,
He called it “treasonous!”
“Practically seditious!”
For simply observing on him.

He cried “national security breach!”
At the smallest dissent or critique.
But the world’s growing wary—
Allies openly query
If the threat is Trump's rule, not the meek.

So while warnings of danger he’d shout,
Many folks, here and abroad, point out
That the peril, indeed,
Is the man taking lead—
A concern they no longer doubt.

Thus the irony’s clear as can be:
In protecting “our great liberty,”
He’s the one many fear
Is endangering the sphere
Of democracies, here and at sea.

applegrove

(132,222 posts)
13. The highlighted link "Paul Krugman" in the body of
Fri Dec 12, 2025, 02:09 PM
Dec 2025

the text I posted take you to the original substack too. It is always the case in Political Wire articles that the link highlighted in the body of the text takes you to the original source.

wiggs

(8,812 posts)
16. the number of americans who would disapprove would go up if pundits, journalists, MSM, analysts would
Fri Dec 12, 2025, 02:39 PM
Dec 2025

state the obvious about his disorders, limitations, actions, and consequences of his actions. Reporting that TSF has ...'become the biggest security threat facing the US...and the world' is a start.

eppur_se_muova

(41,948 posts)
17. Fans of "Yes (Prime) Minister" are well aware of "security issues" as a catchall fallback. nt
Fri Dec 12, 2025, 03:22 PM
Dec 2025

Snackshack

(2,587 posts)
20. I disagree
Fri Dec 12, 2025, 05:38 PM
Dec 2025

DJT is the horrid side effect of a much bigger problem.

That problem being a supreme court that gave him immunity and everything else he has wanted by shadow docket.

Brazil's Supreme Court has more integrity and credibility

raccoon

(32,390 posts)
21. TSF has been a clear and present danger to this country since the first time he was
Fri Dec 12, 2025, 05:41 PM
Dec 2025

Elected. Maybe since he was nominated for the first time.

applegrove

(132,222 posts)
33. Krugman has been at the forefront of the inequality end-stage-capitalism
Fri Dec 12, 2025, 10:20 PM
Dec 2025

discussion for decades.

Deuxcents

(26,931 posts)
28. We've been saying that for years here. We can't be the only ones so it seems too many are out of touch
Fri Dec 12, 2025, 09:34 PM
Dec 2025

With the pulse of the country. Maybe get out and start talking to the people and hear what we’re saying.

Norrrm

(5,059 posts)
32. By his own standards, Traitor Trump should be arrested for questioning Biden's health and stamina.
Fri Dec 12, 2025, 09:56 PM
Dec 2025

Maybe even executed for his own treason?

Jack Valentino

(5,029 posts)
34. Trump is a threat to human life on the entire PLANET, with his demented fingers on
Sat Dec 13, 2025, 12:06 AM
Dec 2025

the nuclear trigger... Will our top generals and the guys in the missile silos stop
to have a debate about the law
when they have been ordered to open fire ?


If he was a Democrat, Republicans would have been SCREAMING LONG AGO
for him to be removed from the chain of command!

Trump is now the 'poster boy' for the 25th Amendment!

Response to applegrove (Original post)

Stargleamer

(2,728 posts)
42. This is like an allusion to a horror movie. . .
Sat Dec 13, 2025, 12:17 PM
Dec 2025

and we are living in that horror movie. (I believe the movie was Scream)

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Paul Krugman: The Call Is...