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BlueWaveNeverEnd

(14,261 posts)
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 08:03 AM Dec 2025

"I can't believe this is America": U.S. Veteran who voted for Trump says ICE arrest of his wife shattered everything he

https://wtfdetective.blog/veteran-cant-believe-america-ice-arrest/

“Why did you vote for him?” a member of Congress asked.

“Because I was an idiot,” the veteran replied. “Evangelical Christian people were lied to, if you really want to know the truth. And that’s exactly what happened.” He said he believed deportations would only target criminals, but instead his wife — someone devoted to serving others — was detained. “My wife and I, when we don’t work, we’re ministers. We help the needy. That’s what we do. And that’s who they’re arresting.”




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"I can't believe this is America": U.S. Veteran who voted for Trump says ICE arrest of his wife shattered everything he (Original Post) BlueWaveNeverEnd Dec 2025 OP
I congratulate him on getting exactly what he voted for. Orrex Dec 2025 #1
+1 dalton99a Dec 2025 #23
Yes, he got what he voted for Bettie Dec 2025 #29
None are so blind as they who will not see Vogon_Glory Dec 2025 #84
And exactly why he voted for him Mysterian Dec 2025 #59
I remember the woman in Florida, whose husband was deported during Trump's first term, wailing, "He's not tblue37 Dec 2025 #75
I wondered UpInArms Dec 2025 #2
He'll still vote Republican in 26 and 28. Orrex Dec 2025 #3
You can't cure UpInArms Dec 2025 #5
I'm so over stupid... but I'm now believing there's no cure for evil. :( slightlv Dec 2025 #87
Guaranteed.......... Bengus81 Dec 2025 #17
Yea, no shit! Americans need to start seeing the light here bluestarone Dec 2025 #47
He has a biblical duty to go be with his wife IbogaProject Dec 2025 #19
Isn't that what usually makes someone regret their votes? Polybius Dec 2025 #122
Americans do not have the intelligence, education, or morality to sustain a democracy. Irish_Dem Dec 2025 #4
Sad, but true! nt pazzyanne Dec 2025 #38
True indeed Hey Joe Dec 2025 #50
Excellently stated. Irish_Dem Dec 2025 #52
I'm very worried that that is correct. yardwork Dec 2025 #55
It couldn't happen to him, so he didn't care, definition of a Republican Walleye Dec 2025 #6
I mean, hey buddy, gab13by13 Dec 2025 #7
The same old grift. "If you give me seed money, you will receive ten fold" Ray Bruns Dec 2025 #13
You definitely exposed a crack in that guy's psyche. Omnipresent Dec 2025 #78
He's not the sharpest pencil in the case. Squaredeal Dec 2025 #8
His eraser is pretty worn down as well DaBronx Dec 2025 #39
Anyone who voted for that con man is an idiot. Emile Dec 2025 #9
Absolutely what part of "don't care about you" followed by Justice matters. Dec 2025 #111
Good. Scrivener7 Dec 2025 #10
Dumb ass malaise Dec 2025 #11
It wasn't his fault. He didn't have enough money for cab fare. His tux was in the cleaners. IT WASN'T HIS FAULT! TheBlackAdder Dec 2025 #54
Typical conservative republican. kellytore Dec 2025 #12
"I was told this leopard was vegan... ybbor Dec 2025 #14
So it was all a MAGA fun house until they came for your family eh? Tough shit.... Bengus81 Dec 2025 #15
It's always about 'me' with these people. They have no EMPATHY. Joinfortmill Dec 2025 #16
Where I grew up he would be called a dumb ass or stupid shit. twodogsbarking Dec 2025 #18
He lied to himself. Blues Heron Dec 2025 #20
He says, "80% of evangelical Christians were lied to." So, 20% were told the truth? Really? He is illogical. Doodley Dec 2025 #21
Oh, they were lied too, all right: not only by the con-man Vogon_Glory Dec 2025 #89
Kinda like reducing drug prices by 1200 percent. Thunderbeast Dec 2025 #93
They help the needy? Really? How? Glaisne Dec 2025 #22
"Evangelical Christian people were lied to" MrsCheaplaugh Dec 2025 #24
That's what I struggle with. mwooldri Dec 2025 #41
K&R UTUSN Dec 2025 #25
Who could have guessed evolves Dec 2025 #26
Boo hoo. C_U_L8R Dec 2025 #27
dunno. I got a couple'a tots for the guy but no pears. Maybe you got a pear or two to inspire him 3Hotdogs Dec 2025 #114
But seriously, you knew he was a rapist Johonny Dec 2025 #28
Exactly. FalloutShelter Dec 2025 #33
Maybe he'll remember that when he goes to vote for Trump again. durablend Dec 2025 #30
Yes, you are an idiot. None of us want criminals on the street ecstatic Dec 2025 #31
A lot of them wouldn't care if people were dying in the streets. haele Dec 2025 #70
Too fucking bad, asshole. You are a disgrace to veterans everywhere. Aristus Dec 2025 #32
Oh boo-hoo! qanda Dec 2025 #34
. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2025 #35
Sigh, at this point I'm like... catbyte Dec 2025 #36
Even us veterans can be stupid in spite of taking an oath to defend the Constitution and stupid violated his oath. Wonder Why Dec 2025 #37
"Christians" who voted for the felon who cheated on his wife with a porn star Justice matters. Dec 2025 #117
I hope we get his vote in the next election iemanja Dec 2025 #40
That's on him to open his eyes and heart Keepthesoulalive Dec 2025 #61
It isn't about placating him iemanja Dec 2025 #64
When seeing a child crying and clinging to her parents Keepthesoulalive Dec 2025 #67
You have ignored my points iemanja Dec 2025 #92
I think about whether he has learned the stove is hot Keepthesoulalive Dec 2025 #110
So you want him and other disaffected iemanja Dec 2025 #115
They have been voting republican since the civil rights act Keepthesoulalive Dec 2025 #119
He's a grown-ass man, in his 50s or 60s, judging by his appearance. hatrack Dec 2025 #80
Irrelevant iemanja Dec 2025 #91
Nice strawman . . . "The only REAL question is MY question." hatrack Dec 2025 #96
It is the only question that matters iemanja Dec 2025 #116
Trump's vileness and hideousness was all out in the open JI7 Dec 2025 #42
It not only is America lonely bird Dec 2025 #43
Good example of Timewas Dec 2025 #44
You, a veteran, voted for a 5-time draft dodger, a man who called military niyad Dec 2025 #45
Hear, hear! yardwork Dec 2025 #56
I don't Rebl2 Dec 2025 #46
Leopards Eating Faces Again Deep State Witch Dec 2025 #48
Far too many people only saw what they wanted to see. "Believing is seeing" is its own punishment. patphil Dec 2025 #49
Don't be a Sucker aeromanKC Dec 2025 #51
FYI, Conservatives all believe that all immigrants are criminals. Jacson6 Dec 2025 #53
Someone hit him with a clue-by-four several times sakabatou Dec 2025 #57
A minister who "helps the needy" voting for Trump. These magats GoodRaisin Dec 2025 #58
There is an old saying... purr-rat beauty Dec 2025 #60
I can't believe you were stupid enough to vote for Trump. Martin68 Dec 2025 #62
Cry me a f-ing river. It is okay when they are targeting other people.. helpisontheway Dec 2025 #63
You voted for trash, don't be surprised when you get garbage in return. Initech Dec 2025 #65
BELIEVE IT. What did he expect when B.See Dec 2025 #66
Surprise, you're stupid!! n/t flvegan Dec 2025 #68
Traitor Lies his GD Ugly Head OFF.. and this is Cha Dec 2025 #69
One Vet to another. kairos12 Dec 2025 #71
. Zelda_Orchid Dec 2025 #72
Yes, he was lied to, but there are plenty of sources for accessing actual information. You don't have to tblue37 Dec 2025 #73
Whelp, all I can say at this point is tell all your friends. meadowlander Dec 2025 #74
Your vote not only fucked up your life, it fucked up the lives of people who knew better... OAITW r.2.0 Dec 2025 #76
There's Really No Way Around It; Evangelical Christian in Ever-so-Many Cases Equates to "Hate Any Potential The Roux Comes First Dec 2025 #77
Evangelical Christian twit should have paid more attention. Tactical Peek Dec 2025 #79
Post removed Post removed Dec 2025 #81
Good bye KS Toronado Dec 2025 #82
This is Democratic Underground so of course we're anti-Trump mcar Dec 2025 #83
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2025 #85
What do you suggest we discuss? mcar Dec 2025 #86
"Evangelical Christian people were lied to" Conjuay Dec 2025 #88
I don't want to hear it anymore Blaukraut Dec 2025 #90
No sympathy. Fiddlelady11 Dec 2025 #94
Lord I'm sick of these people Susan Calvin Dec 2025 #95
they DID know who they were voting for Skittles Dec 2025 #102
He's right. He said he's an Upthevibe Dec 2025 #97
If he truly thought that the only ones to be deported tavernier Dec 2025 #98
Hey dude, you bought it. Now you OWN it. calimary Dec 2025 #99
Zero sympathy Betty Boom Dec 2025 #100
how ANYONE can claim to be Christian and see value in DONALD FUCKING TRUMP Skittles Dec 2025 #101
Yes, you were an idiot. underpants Dec 2025 #103
This is the America THAT YOU VOTED FOR *DESPITE* BEING WARNED. RockRaven Dec 2025 #104
My Favorite Letters: FAFO! ColoringFool Dec 2025 #105
Getting woked the hard way can be quite painful. Oh well. Blues Heron Dec 2025 #106
No sympathy. He was fine with it until the Magastapo was turned against his own family. Blumancru Dec 2025 #107
One can't be both a Christian & a trumpster rustbeltvoice Dec 2025 #108
Congratulations! You got what you wanted - Trump in the WH. Norrrm Dec 2025 #109
A veteran who voted for a seditionist. Tells me everything I need to know about him. Scalded Nun Dec 2025 #112
How did I, and many others, know that he was going to detain and deport anyone that is brown skinned, but not this idiot camartinwv Dec 2025 #113
Hate it when they say they were lied to....Was Trump lying when he said he would be a dictator on day one? W T F Dec 2025 #118
What is this guy's problem? DFW Dec 2025 #120
Being an athiest, Old Crank Dec 2025 #121

Bettie

(19,704 posts)
29. Yes, he got what he voted for
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 10:07 AM
Dec 2025

and they weren't "lied to" that orange man and his minions told them exactly what they were going to do, he simply chose not to listen and to assume that the terrible things he was cheering for would somehow not impact him.

Vogon_Glory

(10,297 posts)
84. None are so blind as they who will not see
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 08:42 PM
Dec 2025

Almost all the MAGA voters refused to see who they were voting for as well what they were voting for. My sympathy for them is paper-thin at best: they not only voted for Donald John but they took the rest of us with them.

When reason, logic, morality, and appeals to their higher selves fail like nine-pins, there’s always pain, and the wounds were self-inflicted.

tblue37

(68,436 posts)
75. I remember the woman in Florida, whose husband was deported during Trump's first term, wailing, "He's not
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 07:59 PM
Dec 2025

hurting the people he's supposed to hurt!"

bluestarone

(22,183 posts)
47. Yea, no shit! Americans need to start seeing the light here
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 11:47 AM
Dec 2025

What pisses me off is they think it's ok to vote maybe against TSF, but then turn around and vote for Repubicon house and Senate members. WTF is wrong with these fuck heads??

Polybius

(21,902 posts)
122. Isn't that what usually makes someone regret their votes?
Fri Dec 19, 2025, 06:11 AM
Dec 2025

When it affects them personally?

Hey Joe

(620 posts)
50. True indeed
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 12:50 PM
Dec 2025

Convenient consumerism, rampant greed, xenophobia and warm comforting lies have overtaken facts and objective reality to grease the skids of our downfall as a nation once revered but now disgraced.

gab13by13

(32,345 posts)
7. I mean, hey buddy,
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 08:33 AM
Dec 2025

criminals have a right to due process also. What exactly do you preach when you do your ministering?

Omnipresent

(7,453 posts)
78. You definitely exposed a crack in that guy's psyche.
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 08:13 PM
Dec 2025

He probably never thought it through or he was for trump for other reasons.

Squaredeal

(733 posts)
8. He's not the sharpest pencil in the case.
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 08:33 AM
Dec 2025

And neither are most of Trump supporters. (America’s apex of its Bell Curve is only 98. The higher the IQ and education level, the more likely the voter is a Democrat. Even Fox News admits it.)

Emile

(42,300 posts)
9. Anyone who voted for that con man is an idiot.
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 08:41 AM
Dec 2025

My god, after what that idiot did his first four years they still voted.him.

Justice matters.

(9,790 posts)
111. Absolutely what part of "don't care about you" followed by
Fri Dec 19, 2025, 01:09 AM
Dec 2025

"just want your vote" these morons didn't understand?

It just boggles the mind! They voted for a convicted felon, an adjudicated sex assaulter and insurrectionist liar with tens of thousands of documented lies who told them he doesn't care about them!

They are reaping what they have sown... as their cult said...

TheBlackAdder

(29,981 posts)
54. It wasn't his fault. He didn't have enough money for cab fare. His tux was in the cleaners. IT WASN'T HIS FAULT!
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 01:12 PM
Dec 2025

Doodley

(11,914 posts)
21. He says, "80% of evangelical Christians were lied to." So, 20% were told the truth? Really? He is illogical.
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 09:19 AM
Dec 2025

Vogon_Glory

(10,297 posts)
89. Oh, they were lied too, all right: not only by the con-man
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 08:51 PM
Dec 2025

But also by themselves. Hillary Clinton didn’t force them to believe the con-man’s spiel. The “libs” at NBC didn’t force them to believe Donald John. George Soros didn’t force them to buy into MAGA BS: they chose to believe it themselves.

Thunderbeast

(3,819 posts)
93. Kinda like reducing drug prices by 1200 percent.
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 09:37 PM
Dec 2025

The pre-frontal cortex was unable overcome the instincts drumming in their heads from their brain stems.

Eat, breathe, reproduce... pretty much done.

Glaisne

(645 posts)
22. They help the needy? Really? How?
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 09:26 AM
Dec 2025

How come he doesn't know that Trump and Republicans don't give a damn about the needy and work to make their lives worse? What a clueless dummy.

MrsCheaplaugh

(275 posts)
24. "Evangelical Christian people were lied to"
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 09:45 AM
Dec 2025

They wanted to believe the lies, just like this nitwit. No surprise that rubes who already believe a dead man walked out of his tomb and the earth is 6000 years old would swallow more horse shit about Donald Trump loves America.

Now Stupid regrets his vote. A fat lot of good that does now.

mwooldri

(10,818 posts)
41. That's what I struggle with.
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 11:10 AM
Dec 2025

I could be naive but I feel Christians should at least know what Jesus is all about. DJT's message isn't Christian. But then the mitigating circumstances here are there are too many false preachers in the Christian community that are teaching falsehoods. Especially this "prosperity gospel" stuff. So if you have these false preachers leading their flock to DJT... I get it. It's not just DJT... It's the whole right wing so-called Evangelical community.

3Hotdogs

(15,370 posts)
114. dunno. I got a couple'a tots for the guy but no pears. Maybe you got a pear or two to inspire him
Fri Dec 19, 2025, 01:33 AM
Dec 2025

on is ministering duties when he tells the sucke --- sorry parishioners about welcoming strangers and Mary and Joe not being treated too good in the town where they were strangers.

Johonny

(26,187 posts)
28. But seriously, you knew he was a rapist
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 10:06 AM
Dec 2025

You knew he committed fraud, you knew about Jan 6th, you knew about him stealing stop secret documents, you knew about Epstein, you knew about the ten counts of obstruction of justice in the Russian investigation, there were two impeachment (2!), you knew about access Hollywood tape, you knew about his complete lack of a Covid vaccination plan, you knew all this and . . . What you decided not to know, because all this shit was out there. Fuck people like this.

FalloutShelter

(14,468 posts)
33. Exactly.
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 10:26 AM
Dec 2025

Jesus wept.
This was an easy test and this jerk failed.
Rapist, Traitor, Felon or Kamala Harris.
This was a layup pass-fail.
F-
Go directly to Hell.

ecstatic

(35,075 posts)
31. Yes, you are an idiot. None of us want criminals on the street
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 10:13 AM
Dec 2025

But even I, as a fully documented, "natural born" American (with no ties to anyone undocumented that I'm aware of) understood what would be coming.

When you listen to magats, it always boils down to the same reasons. Rarely (if ever) do they mention crime. They were concerned about a hypothetical trans person joining a girls' soccer team, or they were full of jealousy when they heard about undocumented individuals (who literally have nothing) receiving a voucher to stay at a New York hotel on a freezing cold night. Sometimes they even throw in the nonsense excuse of wanting to stop abortion.

I wonder if the people who became radicalized when the undocumented were given temporary housing ever considered what it would look like if the undocumented, who were transported to New York under false pretenses, were not given housing and were instead left to starve and freeze on the street. Is that the type of country they want to live in?

That type of cruel approach is 100% out of step with biblical teaching, by the way. The Bible specifically references how people should treat foreigners.

haele

(15,405 posts)
70. A lot of them wouldn't care if people were dying in the streets.
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 04:45 PM
Dec 2025

Especially people who are living fairly comfortably but don't like that they still have to budget.
I mean, all those influencers and TV shows have working middle class folks like them able to just brunch at the coffee shop with friends every day, buy whatever they need for their Chi-Chi homemade dinners, or go out on a monthly date night - pay for a babysitter, dinner and movie - and still not have to worry about paying rent/mortgage, utilities, groceries, auto, insurance, medical bills, ect...
It's a matter of petulance for them. They aren't getting what they want, so f' helping lesser people who don't deserve the help anyway.
If they died in the street, it serves them right.

qanda

(10,436 posts)
34. Oh boo-hoo!
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 10:27 AM
Dec 2025

You would still be supporting this monster if his actions didn't come to your front door.

Wonder Why

(7,031 posts)
37. Even us veterans can be stupid in spite of taking an oath to defend the Constitution and stupid violated his oath.
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 10:47 AM
Dec 2025

That makes it three times as bad.

Being stupid and voting for a monster.

Violating the oath he took.

Knowing that the Ugly Pig wanted to deport immigrants when his wife was one.

Justice matters.

(9,790 posts)
117. "Christians" who voted for the felon who cheated on his wife with a porn star
Fri Dec 19, 2025, 01:49 AM
Dec 2025

and covered it up by signing checks to buy her silence before the election, no less.

iemanja

(57,757 posts)
40. I hope we get his vote in the next election
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 11:09 AM
Dec 2025

Though many don't seem to want it. I for one would like to see the next President be a Democrat.

Keepthesoulalive

(2,305 posts)
61. That's on him to open his eyes and heart
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 01:59 PM
Dec 2025

He would be the same asshole if it didn’t affect him. Placating him won’t change his core, only he can give a crap about something other than himself.

iemanja

(57,757 posts)
64. It isn't about placating him
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 03:10 PM
Dec 2025

It’s about driving away voters, which is exactly what insulting them does. The result is another Republican administration, which isn’t a logical goal of Democrats. Yet people care more about anger and vengeance than winning. This is the continual response to disillusioned Trump voters, which suggests people either can’t control their emotions or don’t know how to win. Either way, the result is increased authoritarianism and death.

Keepthesoulalive

(2,305 posts)
67. When seeing a child crying and clinging to her parents
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 04:33 PM
Dec 2025

As they are being handcuffed and taken away and that child is put in a cage with other children. Many never to be united, Tiki torches in Charlottesville, a grieving pregnant widow and so many other atrocities and you vote for him again. I will give you the same sympathy you gave others. If his wife was not a victim of Trumps cruelty he would vote the same. We’re winning elections without assholes like him because our voters are motivated. The majority of white men in the last elections we have had have voted for republicans. We need to motivate our base and to hell with the haters.

iemanja

(57,757 posts)
92. You have ignored my points
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 09:11 PM
Dec 2025

You think it’s about whether he is a good person. That’s a question for his conscience and his god. What Democrats should care about is winning elections. If it’s up to the people who want retribution, we will lose in perpetuity and extend human suffering. It shouldn’t be a difficult decision.

Keepthesoulalive

(2,305 posts)
110. I think about whether he has learned the stove is hot
Fri Dec 19, 2025, 12:52 AM
Dec 2025

He saw what happened the first term and learned nothing. Perhaps pain will teach him and I will not stop that learning nor will I make it hurt less. As adults we should learn from experience. After the fall of Germany during world war 2 many Germans still loved Hitler but they passed strict laws and made sure people learned history the good and the bad. After the civil war in the United States , we let them up easy and we are still seeing the south trying to rise again. Their identities are tied up with trump and the Republican Party, nothing said on democratic underground will change that.

iemanja

(57,757 posts)
115. So you want him and other disaffected
Fri Dec 19, 2025, 01:43 AM
Dec 2025

Trump voters to continue to vote Republican. I’m sure if you have your way, they will. And so the Republicans will keep winning.

We get the government we deserve.

Keepthesoulalive

(2,305 posts)
119. They have been voting republican since the civil rights act
Fri Dec 19, 2025, 03:10 AM
Dec 2025

They were not mistaken, they were prideful and hateful. Maybe if you speak in comforting language and tell the folks of West Virginia please vote for the democrats they may see the error of their votes. I will not give the oppressor a map, he must find his own way out. Because he would put me and those like me on a plane to nowhere and cheer as it takes off. I want to win therefore I bust my ass to get more and better democrats in office, I do not waste my time with collaborators .

hatrack

(64,901 posts)
80. He's a grown-ass man, in his 50s or 60s, judging by his appearance.
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 08:24 PM
Dec 2025

But he couldn't be bothered to pay attention, or (apparently) to learn anything at all about the asshole he voted for in 2024.

His decision came after ten full years of Trump's arrogance, rage, stupidity and corruption on full public political display, and after four full years of his shambolic performance as president with an insurrection as the cherry on top of the shit sundae.

Where was this guy between 2017 and 2021?!?

Now we're expected to hold his hand, and pat his head, and encourage him with cookies and fruit rollups to come with us to the nearest library in hope that he'll occasionally read a book or a fucking newspaper?

iemanja

(57,757 posts)
91. Irrelevant
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 09:06 PM
Dec 2025

The only question is do you want the votes of disillusioned Trump voters or do you want to lose to the Republicans?

iemanja

(57,757 posts)
116. It is the only question that matters
Fri Dec 19, 2025, 01:48 AM
Dec 2025

You want to indulge your anger. That doesn’t interest me. I care about winning the next presidential election, and that means not driving away voters.

JI7

(93,621 posts)
42. Trump's vileness and hideousness was all out in the open
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 11:15 AM
Dec 2025

nobody lied to you. If anything you lie to yourself.

If this had not happened to his wife yet he would be cheering on what is happening to others.

lonely bird

(2,944 posts)
43. It not only is America
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 11:26 AM
Dec 2025

It has always been America. Groups that come here in any significant number have always been crapped on and blamed for other people’s woes.

niyad

(132,456 posts)
45. You, a veteran, voted for a 5-time draft dodger, a man who called military
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 11:33 AM
Dec 2025

members suckers and losers, a man who loves dictators, hates our allies, and is actively destroying that which you took an oath (with no expiration date) to defend. You ae beyond stupid, you are complicit.

Oh, and by the way, many of us out here strongly object to you reichwing evangelicals shoving your version of christianity down our throats, trying to force your version of shaaria law and living on the rest of us.

Rebl2

(17,744 posts)
46. I don't
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 11:34 AM
Dec 2025

understand. He said evangelicals were lied to? Why is it the majority of democrats knew many years ago that trump has been lying to people for years! He has also cheated people out of their money for many, many years.

patphil

(9,071 posts)
49. Far too many people only saw what they wanted to see. "Believing is seeing" is its own punishment.
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 12:12 PM
Dec 2025

They wanted to believe Trump would do what they wanted, even though he told them what he was going to do. They ignored the cognitive dissonance of the actual situation in favor of a self-imposed fantasy of Trump being a good leader.
For those who can actually do it, the awakening is slow and painful.

There's very little critical thinking going on in MAGA land.

Jacson6

(2,015 posts)
53. FYI, Conservatives all believe that all immigrants are criminals.
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 01:01 PM
Dec 2025

Listen to their talk shows and read conservative forums. People don't understand that fact.

sakabatou

(46,151 posts)
57. Someone hit him with a clue-by-four several times
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 01:19 PM
Dec 2025

You're worse than an idiot! You're a complicit idiot!

B.See

(8,505 posts)
66. BELIEVE IT. What did he expect when
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 03:16 PM
Dec 2025

he ran out and voted for scum who peddled hate and promised authoritarian rule.

Got what he fkn DESERVED.

tblue37

(68,436 posts)
73. Yes, he was lied to, but there are plenty of sources for accessing actual information. You don't have to
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 07:45 PM
Dec 2025

trust obvious, repeated liars and felons.

OAITW r.2.0

(32,159 posts)
76. Your vote not only fucked up your life, it fucked up the lives of people who knew better...
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 08:05 PM
Dec 2025

and that was likely a majority of voters.

The Roux Comes First

(2,278 posts)
77. There's Really No Way Around It; Evangelical Christian in Ever-so-Many Cases Equates to "Hate Any Potential
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 08:06 PM
Dec 2025

Neighbor who doesn't look like you, worship like you, and join you in a hate-spree several times a week."

Just like their bible apparently says. Are they still fixated on Ussher's Year 4004?

Response to BlueWaveNeverEnd (Original post)

Response to mcar (Reply #83)

mcar

(46,059 posts)
86. What do you suggest we discuss?
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 08:45 PM
Dec 2025

There are dozens of forums for special interests. Also, hundreds of OPs a day on various issues. You have picked this one to comment on - and threaten us with your departure if we don't pull ourselves together. Interesting from a 2 post new member.

Blaukraut

(5,998 posts)
90. I don't want to hear it anymore
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 08:57 PM
Dec 2025

This motherfecker knew exactly what he was voting for unless he slept through Trump’s first term. He clearly wanted Trump to enact his entire agenda as long as it benefited him, not hurt him. Selfish pieces of shit like this guy get no sympathy from me. I am fresh out of fucks to give.

Susan Calvin

(2,438 posts)
95. Lord I'm sick of these people
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 09:54 PM
Dec 2025

Who knew or should have known what they were voting for and then cry when they get it.

Skittles

(171,719 posts)
102. they DID know who they were voting for
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 11:25 PM
Dec 2025

they just didn't think it would negatively affect THEM

tavernier

(14,443 posts)
98. If he truly thought that the only ones to be deported
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 10:40 PM
Dec 2025

would be criminals, rapists and murderers, I can forgive him for being stupid because I’ve done a number of stupid things in my life. If I end up hating everyone, even those who now see the truth, how can I expect forgiveness when I screw up?

calimary

(90,039 posts)
99. Hey dude, you bought it. Now you OWN it.
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 11:09 PM
Dec 2025

You were “lied to”? You didn’t listen to anybody else?

You didn’t read the warnings from so many people who knew him and how he deceived people and how there was coverage about all the holes in his assertions?

You didn’t watch anything other than Pox Noise?

What worries me most is how too many people will allow themselves to be conned again, either by him or those coming after him who want what he got (or conned you for, or lied to you about, or just flat-out stole from you and all the rest of us).

Betty Boom

(447 posts)
100. Zero sympathy
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 11:18 PM
Dec 2025

These people only care when an issue directly affects them. How laughable that he would hold himself up as some sort of representative of faith. Screw him and screw his wife. There are better people to worry about.

Skittles

(171,719 posts)
101. how ANYONE can claim to be Christian and see value in DONALD FUCKING TRUMP
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 11:24 PM
Dec 2025

IT BOGGLES THE MIND

RockRaven

(19,381 posts)
104. This is the America THAT YOU VOTED FOR *DESPITE* BEING WARNED.
Thu Dec 18, 2025, 11:44 PM
Dec 2025

The Dotard said he was going to do everything that he is doing! These assholes ignored the parts they didn't want to hear, and now whine that they were lied to. They were lied to... BY THEMSELVES.

Blumancru

(266 posts)
107. No sympathy. He was fine with it until the Magastapo was turned against his own family.
Fri Dec 19, 2025, 12:09 AM
Dec 2025

Want to know a secret, MAGAts? He hates you only slightly less than he hates Democrats. He secretly calls you suckers. And you are, thats why you have earned his contempt.

rustbeltvoice

(484 posts)
108. One can't be both a Christian & a trumpster
Fri Dec 19, 2025, 12:18 AM
Dec 2025

at least not at the same time. Jesus was a logician. You make a choice of one or the other.. Jesus was talking about God and Mammon; but same principle here.

Norrrm

(5,061 posts)
109. Congratulations! You got what you wanted - Trump in the WH.
Fri Dec 19, 2025, 12:46 AM
Dec 2025

‘I Don’t Care About You. I Just Want Your Vote’

Trump claims it was a joke but it turns out to be true.


camartinwv

(149 posts)
113. How did I, and many others, know that he was going to detain and deport anyone that is brown skinned, but not this idiot
Fri Dec 19, 2025, 01:19 AM
Dec 2025

Some people just think they are better than others and are shocked when they get what they asked for.

W T F

(1,188 posts)
118. Hate it when they say they were lied to....Was Trump lying when he said he would be a dictator on day one?
Fri Dec 19, 2025, 02:54 AM
Dec 2025

DFW

(60,189 posts)
120. What is this guy's problem?
Fri Dec 19, 2025, 05:08 AM
Dec 2025

“Trump promised to arrest the worst of the worst.”
“He’s arresting Evangelical ministers who voted for him”

Yeah. So? Where is the inconsistency?

Old Crank

(7,086 posts)
121. Being an athiest,
Fri Dec 19, 2025, 05:13 AM
Dec 2025

I would say that he and his wife are con artists also.
Birds of a feather like Trump.

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