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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSnowflake Thiel plans to leave California over a f*cking ONE PERCENT "billionaires tax." ONE F*CKING PERCENT.
A proposed ballot measure in California that would increase taxes on its wealthiest residents has Pro-Trump billionaire Peter Thiel considering cutting ties with the Golden State, and Rep. Ro Khanna (D-CA) felt compelled to weigh in on the news with a sarcastic quip.
Peter Thiel is leaving California if we pass a 1% tax on billionaires for 5 years to pay for healthcare for the working class facing steep Medicaid cuts, Khanna said Friday night in a social media post on X. I echo what [former President Franklin D. Roosevelt] said with sarcasm of economic royalists when they threatened to leave, I will miss them very much.
The ballot measure is known as the California Billionaire Tax Act, and would impose a one-time 5% tax on the net worth of residents and part-time residents worth more than $1 billion. To appear on next years ballot, it must receive just over 870,000 signatures, and is currently in the signature-gathering phase.
And, while its unclear whether the measure will receive enough signatures, some of the states billionaires including Thiel are already considering leaving the state entirely, The New York Times reported Friday.
https://www.rawstory.com/peter-thiel-2674832059/
johnnyfins
(3,394 posts)IbogaProject
(5,573 posts)I wish we send a bunch of them up their to not be bothered by us "poor" any more.
Kid Berwyn
(22,748 posts)The tech bros' strategy to protect their wealth is to direct fear and hostility towards 'the Other' - migrants, Muslims, the 'woke'
by Joe Gill
Middle East Eye, 9 January 2025
Excerpt...
In other interviews, Thiel has focused on the biblical prophecy of apocalypse that he feels could come to pass as a result of the destructive technology unleashed since Hiroshima in 1945.
Nuclear proliferation is something of a close family interest. Thiels father was involved in the clandestine drive of apartheid South Africa to acquire nuclear-grade uranium in Namibia.
What he doesnt mention is that his firms own technology is bringing that apocalypse ever closer. Palantir, a defence tech firm, is a major investor and creator of AI technologies. For over a decade it has received major contracts from across the US government - including the Department of Defense, Department of Homeland Security, and the FBI.
As a co-founder of PayPal, early investor in Facebook and founder of Palantir, Thiel is also currently taking over the UKs NHS data under a £480m (approximately $600m) UK government contract signed in 2023. His views of public healthcare are clear: "Highways create traffic jams, welfare creates poverty, schools make people dumb and the NHS makes people sick," he said.
Palantir technologies are deployed to both US-backed wars in Gaza and Ukraine. As Responsible Statecraft reported last year, "Palantir has tested in real time its new Artificial Intelligence Platform (AIP) on the Ukrainian war front. It has been described as an intelligence and decision-making system that can analyze enemy targets and propose battle plans. Other Palantir security technologies include AI for predictive policing and surveillance."
Continues...
https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/elon-musk-and-peter-thiel-south-africa-raised-billionaires-fomenting-global-race-war
Miles Archer
(21,546 posts)Musk is an attention whore. Thiel is not. As such, America doesn't know a lot about him. He's not on the general public's radar.
valleyrogue
(2,531 posts)Thiel is a complete fascist, "libertarian" nutjob, and dangerous to boot. He is nothing less than a sociopath, worse than Donald Trump.
Traildogbob
(12,476 posts)For the billionaire team owner.
hunter
(40,333 posts)Maybe he can leave the U.S.A. too, if anyone will take him.
Maru Kitteh
(31,202 posts)Thats all I ask.
CousinIT
(12,169 posts)BYEEEE!
GTFO. And take your fellow billionaire parasites with you.
surfered
(11,181 posts)Dulcinea
(9,615 posts)Let him leave. No one will miss him. In fact, let him leave the country while he's at it. Didn't he plan to move to New Zealand?
31st Street Bridge
(62 posts)And feed him to the spiders.
Greg_In_SF
(813 posts)charge?
ZDU
(1,070 posts)LOSER
TBF
(35,490 posts)these folks are something else ...
FBaggins
(28,615 posts)Avoiding a billion dollar expense by simply picking a new place to live sounds like an easy decision.
And its likely much more than that since his net worth is tied up in assets that would draw large capital gains taxes federally and in California if he had to sell them to pay the tax.
unblock
(55,867 posts)FBaggins
(28,615 posts)and... of course... he would then pay $50M/year in interest on the loan with no earning asset to offset it. That would pretty quickly exceed the amount of the avoided income tax.
Much easier to just say "I don't live here any more" and sell his Hollywood Hills home. He has much nicer ones in Hawaii and Florida.
unblock
(55,867 posts)Or otherwise do whatever is needed to avoid the tax entirely.
Just disputing the capital gains point. If he decides he can live with paying the tax, or can't easily avoid it, then he'll finance it rather than selling assets at a profit.
hunter
(40,333 posts)... and being a non-resident would further complicate his life and reduce his political influence.
Commuting in a private jet grows wearisome.
BidenRocks
(2,705 posts)Thiel was great on South Park!
Vinca
(53,246 posts)UpInArms
(53,983 posts)I hate them for their values money trumps humanity
LoisB
(12,270 posts)multigraincracker
(36,865 posts)His dream heaven. Low taxes and few laws.
Autumn
(48,720 posts)Pinback
(13,489 posts)Move there, sicko.
VGNonly
(8,326 posts)a floating city without regulation, a libertarian "Love Boat".
cstanleytech
(28,182 posts)If not then they need to go after their real estate and nail any houses or condos valued at over say one or two million dollars.
popsdenver
(1,456 posts)would be long gone before any tax on the rich every comes about and works it's way through all the courts. And then of course this Republican Supreme Court would find some tiny technical excuse for not allowing it to happen.
I can only imagine that it would be extremely hard for the U.S. Government to know how much money they have, because it has been offshored long long ago, invested and compounding their money without the U.S. States and U.S. Federal Government ever even knowing about it.............
The Rich even get credit cards from these secretive nations, and the rich charge every last thing they can, and many years ago our government, I think during the WBush? years, cannot subpoena an individuals credit card statements from any other countries banks.......
If things continue this way, in the near future, maybe at the most a year or two, The Uber Rich top 1% will have succeeded in a wealth transfer of all the U.S. money to themselves.........Leaving the other 99% in destitute as mere serfs and peasants.
All they have to do, is once again, trash the stock market like they have done many times in the past, dating back to Reagan's "Black Tuesday"? All of the retirement funds, and investment accounts holding people's future retirements are invested in the stock markets, etc etc etc and BOOM......An immediate repeat of the Great Depression, but far far worse this time around, and permanent.
If you want a description of the great depression, read or re-read Steinbecks GRAPES OF WRATH, and find a day by day accounting of people trying to exist, having lost everything, and what the Hoovervilles were like. And how the Corporations took full advantage of the situation that they in fact created. The Uber rich would like nothing better than to destroy all the rules and regulations that FDR put in place to pull us out of the depression and get rid of the Robber Barrons and Gilded Age. And here we sit, on the edge of what happened in the 20's...... De-ja-vue (sp?) all over again......
Martin68
(26,961 posts)Blaukraut
(5,980 posts)Mass. implemented a 4% surtax on income above one million dollars. Back then there was a lot of screaming and threats from said millionaires, but the expected mass exodus of the wealthy failed to materialize. On the contrary, the number of millionaires actually grew since the law was passed, and Massachusetts got a nice little windfall in tax revenue.
https://www.bostonherald.com/2025/04/28/how-many-millionaires-live-in-massachusetts-number-grows-after-higher-income-tax-goes-into-effect/
https://www.masslive.com/politics/2025/08/millionaires-tax-cash-flooded-the-states-coffers-last-year-heres-how-that-happened.html
kacekwl
(8,854 posts)by the Salvation Army bucket without fail but has his hand out for government money. Greedy pricks.
bucolic_frolic
(53,843 posts)Tetrachloride
(9,329 posts)might be true.
Wednesdays
(21,550 posts)Wonder which red state hell will end up with him.

JustAnotherGen
(37,487 posts)Can he leave the country and move to Russia?
Fucking cry baby.
AverageOldGuy
(3,289 posts)Exactly how much money does any one need? How many houses, cars, yachts, villas in the south of France, . . . .
Pinback
(13,489 posts)can never get enough external validation.
travelingthrulife
(4,355 posts)They should be in treatment to rehabilitate with humans, but they would never admit a problem.
karin_sj
(1,309 posts)These people who are rich beyond our imagination are so greedy and entitled that they can't even part with a minute fraction of their money. They could do so much good with their extreme wealth, but they choose to not only hoard it, but try to use it to gain power and hurt others who are on the other end of the financial spectrum. A total lack of decency and human empathy seems to be the common thread among these disgusting lowlifes.
Initech
(107,255 posts)Fuck that piece of shit and his horrible surveillance business.
Greg_In_SF
(813 posts)is a fundamental right protected by The Constitution.
Mblaze
(920 posts)But is gathering every possible detail he can grab on all of us. Why else except for control?
Theil put the Vulture into Capitalism.
TBF
(35,490 posts)collectively - it is because the folks before him paid their taxes, and the current workers who used their labor to help him build his riches. He was able to become a great success because of his own skills, but ALSO the society around him who (with their ancestors) not only labored, but built the country, made the roads, provided the schools, etc - they created the infrastructure and atmosphere (free market) where he was able to thrive.
THAT is the expanded answer as to why he should be paying his fair share.
Mblaze
(920 posts)lonely bird
(2,724 posts)They are a waste of resources.
Dawson Leery
(19,512 posts)Thiel is a parasite.
Bev54
(13,159 posts)principle is money. There is nothing else to these people, nothing.
Bluetus
(2,225 posts)He isn't going anywhere.
I bet his true effective tax rate is in the single digits.
Here is the truth about taxation in the US. Anybody making millions in annual income has ample opportunity to shelter their income. And as they get into the billions, that becomes practically tax-free, hidden in numerous corporations, many offshore.
Meanwhile, the working people pay a multitude of taxes, most of which are regressive, hitting low income people the hardest: gas tax, sales tax, social security and other payroll taxes, cell phone taxes, toll roads, etc. It is endless.
pecosbob
(8,303 posts)AllaN01Bear
(28,501 posts)vapor2
(3,652 posts)travelingthrulife
(4,355 posts)duckworth969
(1,128 posts)Thiel is a fucking whiner.