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Miles Archer

(21,546 posts)
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 10:24 AM 5 hrs ago

Snowflake Thiel plans to leave California over a f*cking ONE PERCENT "billionaires tax." ONE F*CKING PERCENT.

A proposed ballot measure in California that would increase taxes on its wealthiest residents has Pro-Trump billionaire Peter Thiel considering cutting ties with the Golden State, and Rep. Ro Khanna (D-CA) felt compelled to weigh in on the news with a sarcastic quip.

“Peter Thiel is leaving California if we pass a 1% tax on billionaires for 5 years to pay for healthcare for the working class facing steep Medicaid cuts,” Khanna said Friday night in a social media post on X. “I echo what [former President Franklin D. Roosevelt] said with sarcasm of economic royalists when they threatened to leave, ‘I will miss them very much.’”

The ballot measure is known as the California Billionaire Tax Act, and would impose a one-time 5% tax on the net worth of residents and part-time residents worth more than $1 billion. To appear on next year’s ballot, it must receive just over 870,000 signatures, and is currently in the signature-gathering phase.

And, while it’s unclear whether the measure will receive enough signatures, some of the state’s billionaires – including Thiel – are already considering leaving the state entirely, The New York Times reported Friday.

https://www.rawstory.com/peter-thiel-2674832059/

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Snowflake Thiel plans to leave California over a f*cking ONE PERCENT "billionaires tax." ONE F*CKING PERCENT. (Original Post) Miles Archer 5 hrs ago OP
I wonder if he'd consider leaving EARTH entirely. johnnyfins 4 hrs ago #1
Mars Needs Wealthies IbogaProject 3 hrs ago #35
Greedy n greasy NAZI Kid Berwyn 4 hrs ago #2
Thiel is worse than Musk ever THOUGHT of being. Miles Archer 4 hrs ago #15
For starters, he OWNS J.D. Vance. valleyrogue 1 hr ago #49
And from another Tax Payer funded stadium, Traildogbob 4 hrs ago #3
Good riddance. hunter 4 hrs ago #4
Please don't come to my state you malfunctioning degenerate psycho. Maru Kitteh 4 hrs ago #5
Hoity-toity, self-entitled little pricks. CousinIT 4 hrs ago #6
Is the tax rate lower in Russia? surfered 4 hrs ago #7
"Fuck these people." --Hunter S. Thompson Dulcinea 4 hrs ago #8
Arrest his fascist ass 31st Street Bridge 4 hrs ago #9
On what Greg_In_SF 3 hrs ago #33
G T F O ZDU 4 hrs ago #10
Confiscate his passport so he can't return - TBF 4 hrs ago #11
That's over a billion dollars for him FBaggins 4 hrs ago #12
The ultra-rich can easily borrow against their assets to avoid triggering capital gains unblock 4 hrs ago #14
They'll borrow against assets to fund the purchase of other assets FBaggins 4 hrs ago #20
I'm not disputing that he might leave California, on paper anyway, unblock 2 hrs ago #42
Problem being that he can't take California with him... hunter 3 hrs ago #23
Don't forget a snow shovel. BidenRocks 2 hrs ago #38
Will California be having a new state holiday? Vinca 4 hrs ago #13
Greedy fucking money hoarders UpInArms 4 hrs ago #16
Ok, bye. LoisB 4 hrs ago #17
Somalia. multigraincracker 4 hrs ago #18
Bye bye Fuck face. You should move to Russia, Putin will help you save your pennies. Autumn 4 hrs ago #19
Mars has no taxes. Pinback 3 hrs ago #21
He's an advocate of Seasteading, VGNonly 3 hrs ago #22
I wonder if a retroactive penalty tax would be legal should they leave for that reason. cstanleytech 3 hrs ago #24
A lot of us here at DU popsdenver 2 hrs ago #37
Obviously his only principle in life is profit above all, no matter how small. What a small human being. Martin68 3 hrs ago #25
The billionaires won't leave. See Massachusetts Millionaires Tax Blaukraut 3 hrs ago #26
He's the type who passes kacekwl 3 hrs ago #27
If we go nationwide with a 1% tax will he leave for good? /nt bucolic_frolic 3 hrs ago #28
It never rains in California Tetrachloride 3 hrs ago #29
Well, bye. Wednesdays 3 hrs ago #30
He's an attention whore JustAnotherGen 3 hrs ago #31
I know this is a stupid question, but: AverageOldGuy 3 hrs ago #32
A person who's empty inside Pinback 3 hrs ago #36
They are addicts. Just like any drug addict. travelingthrulife 46 min ago #54
Good riddance karin_sj 3 hrs ago #34
Make him stay until he pays. Initech 2 hrs ago #39
Freedom to travel Greg_In_SF 2 hrs ago #40
An immigrant from Germany who doesn't want to chip in for the good of Americans Mblaze 2 hrs ago #41
And it's not just "being charitable" - he has made his money on our backs TBF 2 hrs ago #44
Thanks and well said. Mblaze 13 min ago #55
Eat the rich lonely bird 2 hrs ago #43
Entitled is an understatement. Dawson Leery 2 hrs ago #45
He would say it is the principle because he and most of his other oligarch companions' only Bev54 2 hrs ago #46
Theil probably has most of his income sheltered anyway Bluetus 1 hr ago #47
Wish they would all move to their compounds in Honduras and Costa Rica to live out their little randian fantasies. pecosbob 1 hr ago #48
bye bye. AllaN01Bear 58 min ago #50
Any chance of him leaving the country period??????? vapor2 52 min ago #51
Good! Now leave the country, traitor. travelingthrulife 52 min ago #52
Billionaires are hoarders duckworth969 51 min ago #53

IbogaProject

(5,573 posts)
35. Mars Needs Wealthies
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 12:22 PM
3 hrs ago

I wish we send a bunch of them up their to not be bothered by us "poor" any more.

Kid Berwyn

(22,748 posts)
2. Greedy n greasy NAZI
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 10:32 AM
4 hrs ago
Elon Musk and Peter Thiel: The billionaires fomenting a global race war

The tech bros' strategy to protect their wealth is to direct fear and hostility towards 'the Other' - migrants, Muslims, the 'woke'


by Joe Gill
Middle East Eye, 9 January 2025

Excerpt...

In other interviews, Thiel has focused on the biblical prophecy of apocalypse that he feels could come to pass as a result of the destructive technology unleashed since Hiroshima in 1945.

Nuclear proliferation is something of a close family interest. Thiel’s father was involved in the clandestine drive of apartheid South Africa to acquire nuclear-grade uranium in Namibia.

What he doesn’t mention is that his firm’s own technology is bringing that apocalypse ever closer. Palantir, a defence tech firm, is a major investor and creator of AI technologies. For over a decade it has received major contracts from across the US government - including the Department of Defense, Department of Homeland Security, and the FBI.

As a co-founder of PayPal, early investor in Facebook and founder of Palantir, Thiel is also currently taking over the UK’s NHS data under a £480m (approximately $600m) UK government contract signed in 2023. His views of public healthcare are clear: "Highways create traffic jams, welfare creates poverty, schools make people dumb and the NHS makes people sick," he said.

Palantir technologies are deployed to both US-backed wars in Gaza and Ukraine. As Responsible Statecraft reported last year, "Palantir has tested in real time its new Artificial Intelligence Platform (AIP) on the Ukrainian war front. It has been described as ‘an intelligence and decision-making system that can analyze enemy targets and propose battle plans.’ Other Palantir security technologies include AI for predictive policing and surveillance."

Continues...

https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/elon-musk-and-peter-thiel-south-africa-raised-billionaires-fomenting-global-race-war

Miles Archer

(21,546 posts)
15. Thiel is worse than Musk ever THOUGHT of being.
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 10:57 AM
4 hrs ago

Musk is an attention whore. Thiel is not. As such, America doesn't know a lot about him. He's not on the general public's radar.

valleyrogue

(2,531 posts)
49. For starters, he OWNS J.D. Vance.
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 01:48 PM
1 hr ago

Thiel is a complete fascist, "libertarian" nutjob, and dangerous to boot. He is nothing less than a sociopath, worse than Donald Trump.

CousinIT

(12,169 posts)
6. Hoity-toity, self-entitled little pricks.
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 10:37 AM
4 hrs ago

BYEEEE!

GTFO. And take your fellow billionaire parasites with you.

Dulcinea

(9,615 posts)
8. "Fuck these people." --Hunter S. Thompson
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 10:41 AM
4 hrs ago

Let him leave. No one will miss him. In fact, let him leave the country while he's at it. Didn't he plan to move to New Zealand?

FBaggins

(28,615 posts)
12. That's over a billion dollars for him
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 10:47 AM
4 hrs ago

Avoiding a billion dollar expense by simply picking a new place to live sounds like an easy decision.

And it’s likely much more than that since his net worth is tied up in assets that would draw large capital gains taxes federally and in California if he had to sell them to pay the tax.

unblock

(55,867 posts)
14. The ultra-rich can easily borrow against their assets to avoid triggering capital gains
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 10:57 AM
4 hrs ago

FBaggins

(28,615 posts)
20. They'll borrow against assets to fund the purchase of other assets
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 11:20 AM
4 hrs ago

and... of course... he would then pay $50M/year in interest on the loan with no earning asset to offset it. That would pretty quickly exceed the amount of the avoided income tax.

Much easier to just say "I don't live here any more" and sell his Hollywood Hills home. He has much nicer ones in Hawaii and Florida.



unblock

(55,867 posts)
42. I'm not disputing that he might leave California, on paper anyway,
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 12:56 PM
2 hrs ago

Or otherwise do whatever is needed to avoid the tax entirely.

Just disputing the capital gains point. If he decides he can live with paying the tax, or can't easily avoid it, then he'll finance it rather than selling assets at a profit.

hunter

(40,333 posts)
23. Problem being that he can't take California with him...
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 11:41 AM
3 hrs ago

... and being a non-resident would further complicate his life and reduce his political influence.

Commuting in a private jet grows wearisome.

VGNonly

(8,326 posts)
22. He's an advocate of Seasteading,
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 11:37 AM
3 hrs ago

a floating city without regulation, a libertarian "Love Boat".



cstanleytech

(28,182 posts)
24. I wonder if a retroactive penalty tax would be legal should they leave for that reason.
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 11:45 AM
3 hrs ago

If not then they need to go after their real estate and nail any houses or condos valued at over say one or two million dollars.

popsdenver

(1,456 posts)
37. A lot of us here at DU
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 12:33 PM
2 hrs ago

would be long gone before any tax on the rich every comes about and works it's way through all the courts. And then of course this Republican Supreme Court would find some tiny technical excuse for not allowing it to happen.
I can only imagine that it would be extremely hard for the U.S. Government to know how much money they have, because it has been offshored long long ago, invested and compounding their money without the U.S. States and U.S. Federal Government ever even knowing about it.............

The Rich even get credit cards from these secretive nations, and the rich charge every last thing they can, and many years ago our government, I think during the WBush? years, cannot subpoena an individuals credit card statements from any other countries banks.......

If things continue this way, in the near future, maybe at the most a year or two, The Uber Rich top 1% will have succeeded in a wealth transfer of all the U.S. money to themselves.........Leaving the other 99% in destitute as mere serfs and peasants.

All they have to do, is once again, trash the stock market like they have done many times in the past, dating back to Reagan's "Black Tuesday"? All of the retirement funds, and investment accounts holding people's future retirements are invested in the stock markets, etc etc etc and BOOM......An immediate repeat of the Great Depression, but far far worse this time around, and permanent.
If you want a description of the great depression, read or re-read Steinbecks GRAPES OF WRATH, and find a day by day accounting of people trying to exist, having lost everything, and what the Hoovervilles were like. And how the Corporations took full advantage of the situation that they in fact created. The Uber rich would like nothing better than to destroy all the rules and regulations that FDR put in place to pull us out of the depression and get rid of the Robber Barrons and Gilded Age. And here we sit, on the edge of what happened in the 20's...... De-ja-vue (sp?) all over again......

Martin68

(26,961 posts)
25. Obviously his only principle in life is profit above all, no matter how small. What a small human being.
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 11:53 AM
3 hrs ago

Blaukraut

(5,980 posts)
26. The billionaires won't leave. See Massachusetts Millionaires Tax
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 11:55 AM
3 hrs ago

Mass. implemented a 4% surtax on income above one million dollars. Back then there was a lot of screaming and threats from said millionaires, but the expected mass exodus of the wealthy failed to materialize. On the contrary, the number of millionaires actually grew since the law was passed, and Massachusetts got a nice little windfall in tax revenue.

https://www.bostonherald.com/2025/04/28/how-many-millionaires-live-in-massachusetts-number-grows-after-higher-income-tax-goes-into-effect/

https://www.masslive.com/politics/2025/08/millionaires-tax-cash-flooded-the-states-coffers-last-year-heres-how-that-happened.html

kacekwl

(8,854 posts)
27. He's the type who passes
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 11:55 AM
3 hrs ago

by the Salvation Army bucket without fail but has his hand out for government money. Greedy pricks.

AverageOldGuy

(3,289 posts)
32. I know this is a stupid question, but:
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 12:08 PM
3 hrs ago

Exactly how much money does any one need? How many houses, cars, yachts, villas in the south of France, . . . .

travelingthrulife

(4,355 posts)
54. They are addicts. Just like any drug addict.
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 02:44 PM
46 min ago

They should be in treatment to rehabilitate with humans, but they would never admit a problem.

karin_sj

(1,309 posts)
34. Good riddance
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 12:13 PM
3 hrs ago

These people who are rich beyond our imagination are so greedy and entitled that they can't even part with a minute fraction of their money. They could do so much good with their extreme wealth, but they choose to not only hoard it, but try to use it to gain power and hurt others who are on the other end of the financial spectrum. A total lack of decency and human empathy seems to be the common thread among these disgusting lowlifes.

Initech

(107,255 posts)
39. Make him stay until he pays.
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 12:37 PM
2 hrs ago

Fuck that piece of shit and his horrible surveillance business.

Mblaze

(920 posts)
41. An immigrant from Germany who doesn't want to chip in for the good of Americans
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 12:50 PM
2 hrs ago

But is gathering every possible detail he can grab on all of us. Why else except for control?

Theil put the Vulture into Capitalism.

TBF

(35,490 posts)
44. And it's not just "being charitable" - he has made his money on our backs
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 01:17 PM
2 hrs ago

collectively - it is because the folks before him paid their taxes, and the current workers who used their labor to help him build his riches. He was able to become a great success because of his own skills, but ALSO the society around him who (with their ancestors) not only labored, but built the country, made the roads, provided the schools, etc - they created the infrastructure and atmosphere (free market) where he was able to thrive.

THAT is the expanded answer as to why he should be paying his fair share.

Bev54

(13,159 posts)
46. He would say it is the principle because he and most of his other oligarch companions' only
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 01:21 PM
2 hrs ago

principle is money. There is nothing else to these people, nothing.

Bluetus

(2,225 posts)
47. Theil probably has most of his income sheltered anyway
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 01:39 PM
1 hr ago

He isn't going anywhere.

I bet his true effective tax rate is in the single digits.

Here is the truth about taxation in the US. Anybody making millions in annual income has ample opportunity to shelter their income. And as they get into the billions, that becomes practically tax-free, hidden in numerous corporations, many offshore.

Meanwhile, the working people pay a multitude of taxes, most of which are regressive, hitting low income people the hardest: gas tax, sales tax, social security and other payroll taxes, cell phone taxes, toll roads, etc. It is endless.

pecosbob

(8,303 posts)
48. Wish they would all move to their compounds in Honduras and Costa Rica to live out their little randian fantasies.
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 01:46 PM
1 hr ago
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