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OAITW r.2.0

(31,429 posts)
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 06:42 PM 10 hrs ago

We're going to lose our Aerospace sector.

Trump's tariffs on aluminum is a big problem for every Aerospace US manufacturer. Everyone produces 6000 series aluminum,,,,easy to work/extrude. But Canada has other markets for their 2000 series aluminum. Difficult to produce and engineered into almost every aircraft aluminum component. Boeing is thinking about about future profitability. They may end up manufacturing in Canada, just to get the aircraft aluminum that they need.

Automotive soon to follow. Trump is making us MASA....Making America a Shithole Again.

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Melon

(1,011 posts)
1. We need to bring on more cheap reliable power. Nuclear generation etc.
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 07:32 PM
9 hrs ago

The US used to have a lot of aluminum smelters. We have the raw material, it’s the cheap power that drove that industry to other countries. Bring on better, cheaper energy and the industry can be restarted here. The energy is in competition with the new data centers.

OAITW r.2.0

(31,429 posts)
3. Why do we need more aluminum smelting? India is totally capable and cost effective.
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 07:40 PM
9 hrs ago

Do we want to revisit these pollution rich technologies? Will American's want to work in basic aluminum smelting and primary (extruded) fabrication? Who? Immigrants that aren't welcome? Doesn't make sense.

Melon

(1,011 posts)
14. Yes. Americans can work in aluminum smelting.
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 10:51 PM
6 hrs ago

I’ve been in smelters. Those are not low paying jobs. The smelters would run all night using off peak electricity. We mine aluminum. Why would we ship to India, process, and ship all the way around the world again? The US is basic in these materials, we don’t need to send materials to third world countries to manufacture.

India uses Russia and Iranian oil bought at a discount to low prices of global commodities. India is not even a US ally. So you support strengthening Russia?

OAITW r.2.0

(31,429 posts)
15. We are not in the top 10 of bauxite producers.
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 11:37 PM
5 hrs ago

The primary ore in producing aluminum.

Melon

(1,011 posts)
16. Because our energy costs have been too high.
Wed Dec 31, 2025, 12:23 AM
4 hrs ago

We don’t mine what we can’t process.
The US has 4 aluminum smelters left. Decades ago there were 40. This is the US offshoring manufacturing versus keeping the jobs and dollars here. If smelters are built the ore exists in the US to feed them.

vapor2

(3,672 posts)
2. Just depressing and making us weak and vulnerable as a country
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 07:34 PM
9 hrs ago

We are surely a shit hole country with alignment with russia and china. At 70 I wish we could move abroad

OAITW r.2.0

(31,429 posts)
12. Back, when I had a company - before Trump....
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 09:44 PM
7 hrs ago

We repped Indian/Chinese Aluminum extruders to US OEMs. We are refocusing on the Canadian industrial growth market.

Bev54

(13,171 posts)
8. Oops, guess they can't complete the Canadian contract for F-35's, guess we have to go with
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 09:27 PM
7 hrs ago

Sweden's Gripen

littlemissmartypants

(31,520 posts)
11. Many have quipped:
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 09:41 PM
7 hrs ago

"Elect a clown, expect a circus."

I would say the truth is closer to this:

Elect a psychopath, expect destruction.

OAITW r.2.0

(31,429 posts)
13. Yeah, I really don't want to think this.
Tue Dec 30, 2025, 09:47 PM
7 hrs ago

But Trump appears to be our reality. And Republican's don't seem to give a shit.

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