Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

gab13by13

(31,259 posts)
Sun Jan 4, 2026, 07:59 AM Sunday

It Wasn't Enough For The Greedy Bastards To Rob Our Treasury

The billionaires don't pay taxes, they don't get a paycheck that can be taxed. If anyone suggests a wealth tax the poor babies faint on their couches.

Krasnov and his billionaire thieves are taking taxpayer money away from federal jobs, away from government contracts, even contracts that work to cure cancer and other diseases. They stopped money going to worthy causes overseas. They are even gutting money meant for disaster relief. They are gutting money meant for healthcare.

Krasnov just announced that hundreds of millions of acres of government land and water will be open to drilling and mining. Krasnov also announced that Venezuela will be open for drilling for oil. Why wouldn't those fossil fuel companies keep gasoline prices under 3 dollars?

It appears to me that all of this money that is designed to promote the general welfare is going right into Krasnov's sovereign wealth fund. Krasnov controls all of that money, the Magat Congress delegated it to him, he can funnel it, has already funneled it into companies run by his kids.

All of that theft of our treasury wasn't enough for the greedy bastards, they had to go to war with Venezuela to make more stolen money.

The fuckers are evil, and Krasnov has total control of the military to do his bidding to steal more money.

All of those retired generals and admirals who went on TV and said that the military would do the right thing, would not disobey illegal orders were either lying or sadly mistaken.

29 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
It Wasn't Enough For The Greedy Bastards To Rob Our Treasury (Original Post) gab13by13 Sunday OP
Trump has been extorting world leaders from the minute he stole the WH. Irish_Dem Sunday #1
Probably. OldBaldy1701E Sunday #3
It is doubtful they will fight the US military. Irish_Dem Sunday #5
Surely not toe-to-toe; that would be suicidal. Buns_of_Fire Sunday #7
Europe has been making bad decisions for quite some time. Irish_Dem Sunday #10
I have a different perspective MadameButterfly Sunday #14
I agree and disagree. Irish_Dem Sunday #18
Your really think MadameButterfly Wednesday #29
I'm sure D_Master81 Monday #27
Greenland doesn't have a corrupt, dangerous president like Venezuela did FakeNoose Sunday #8
We have no data to support the idea NATO will do the right thing. Irish_Dem Sunday #11
When Ukraine was first invaded, Joe Biden was in the White House FakeNoose Sunday #19
NATO against the U.S. military James48 Sunday #23
The number of casualties would be very high. Irish_Dem Monday #25
I'm not sure what order but he has 3 years: MadameButterfly Sunday #15
Yes these are the potential crimes he has openly talked about. Irish_Dem Sunday #17
Well said! KT2000 Sunday #2
And now he's going to rob Venezuela too Farmer-Rick Sunday #4
Praying Gropenfuhrer doesn't have elections outlawed come Nov. KS Toronado Sunday #6
He can't outlaw the midterm elections FakeNoose Sunday #9
Before another innocent country is invaded Delmette2.0 Sunday #12
And they're loading in so much debt that Democrats won't have the resources to fix our ruined nation if they ever get NBachers Sunday #13
I think its a different thing MadameButterfly Sunday #16
Years ago Carlin said, "They're coming for your Social Security" Kennah Sunday #20
This basically proves popsdenver Sunday #21
Chaos is being fomented to cover his tracks. live love laugh Sunday #22
The only thing that we can do Dan Monday #24
Shades The Wizard Monday #26
The cost of the Venezuela "campaign"... BH liberal Monday #28

Irish_Dem

(79,887 posts)
1. Trump has been extorting world leaders from the minute he stole the WH.
Sun Jan 4, 2026, 08:04 AM
Sunday

It was only a matter of time before he used the US military to outright steal
international resources.

Greenland is next??

OldBaldy1701E

(10,204 posts)
3. Probably.
Sun Jan 4, 2026, 08:47 AM
Sunday

However, I am doubting that Europe in general and Denmark in particular, are going to lie down for it.

So, we will see what happens.

Buns_of_Fire

(19,012 posts)
7. Surely not toe-to-toe; that would be suicidal.
Sun Jan 4, 2026, 09:27 AM
Sunday

But I think one of the first things to go would be any Marquess of Queensberry rulebook.

Irish_Dem

(79,887 posts)
10. Europe has been making bad decisions for quite some time.
Sun Jan 4, 2026, 09:39 AM
Sunday

Germany and France were deep into Putin business and oil deals.
Biden had to twist their arms to get them to do the minimum for Ukraine.
Europe still drags their feet in terms of helping Ukraine.

The UK was foolish enough to fall for Putin propaganda and left the
European Union and their economy is crashing as a result.

Europe comes across as spoiled and lazy.
I doubt they will do much to fight Trump.

Even the powerful leaders in the US have bowed down and rolled over to Trump.
Also spoiled and lazy.

MadameButterfly

(3,746 posts)
14. I have a different perspective
Sun Jan 4, 2026, 11:21 AM
Sunday

Not that you are wrong but I think its not so simple.

--Commerce between Germany/France and Russia had the potential of creating dependency but also moderating differences. This made sanctions more important with the invasion of Ukraine. Both countries are investing heavily in solar and targeting carbon neutral/non-dependence on oil.
--Biden was a catalyst in creating the alliance that supports Ukraine, but it appears that Europe is stepping up and contributing military and economic support on a large scale. Are they doing as much as they can/should? I'm not qualified to say.
--Brexit was a slight majority of UK that largely now regrets it, representing a similar population to Americans who voted for Trump.
--Leaders who oppose Trump in the US and abroad are making calculations how much to fight vs compromise. With the current power structure, it seems they lose either way. Trump is bent on destruction and will blame others regardless. There should never again be so much power in the hands of one man.
--The people who are spoiled and lazy are the oligarchs/billionaires in the US who think they benefit from colluding with Trump, the Republican Party without whom his rule would not be possible, and foreign dictators. I hope the day comes when they will have to pay.

Irish_Dem

(79,887 posts)
18. I agree and disagree.
Sun Jan 4, 2026, 12:18 PM
Sunday

-- If Europe wanted to make sure Ukraine would win the war they could do so.
They refuse to do it. We can speculate why.

Europe has relied on the US for military support since WWII.
Hence their ability to give people free education, healthcare, vacations, etc.

They are spoiled. I have actually interacted with people on European forums who
adamantly deny the US helped them win WWII and never gave a penny to them
in the Marshall Plan after WWII. After the US taxpayer handed over $150 billion in today's dollars!

--The Brits fell for Russian propaganda about immigrants, etc.
The very same way Americans did. The Brits and Americans are now suffering for their
stupidity.

--There is no leadership anywhere in the world that I can see.
So called leaders here in the US and abroad have folded like cheap lawn chairs.
All kiss Trump ass instead of exhibiting any leadership. They handed Trump all
the power in the world.

The well to do citizens are spoiled and don't wish to inconvenience themselves by
fighting Trump.

And yes the billionaires are the worst. They want all the money, respites and will kill as many people as it takes to get it.




MadameButterfly

(3,746 posts)
29. Your really think
Wed Jan 7, 2026, 09:45 PM
Wednesday

if Europe could make Ukraine win they wouldn't do it?

I haven't discussed WWII on forums but the Europeans I have known have understood the US role, and for the most part quite quite grateful.

Yes countries tht don't spend their money on military get to have other things. It appears to be Europes turn now.

Do any of us want the inconvenience of fighting Trump? I want my damn life back. But if I could make a difference beyond a few demonstrations, I would. Maybe the rich people are at those demonstrations too.

I'm not as sure as you--and many others--what leadership can do about Trump. At least among Democrats. The Republicans coul d fix it overnight. The billionaires could call a meeting, change their minds, and change everything. But they don't. Proof that being rich isn't about being smart.


FakeNoose

(40,213 posts)
8. Greenland doesn't have a corrupt, dangerous president like Venezuela did
Sun Jan 4, 2026, 09:34 AM
Sunday

... so Chump has fewer options. If he tries something like this in Greenland, he'd be stopped by the NATO allies and he'd be dealt with as the true thieving fascist that he is.

Chump will have to come up with something else, and the eyes of every leader in Europe and North America are already upon him.

Irish_Dem

(79,887 posts)
11. We have no data to support the idea NATO will do the right thing.
Sun Jan 4, 2026, 10:02 AM
Sunday

Europe has had a very hard time standing up for Ukraine against Putin.
Putin was able to entangle Europe in money and oil deals.
They did not want to cross him.

Greenland and Denmark cannot stand up to the US military.
It would be a blood bath.

We already saw that the US military will use its full force and might
to get what Trump wants.

FakeNoose

(40,213 posts)
19. When Ukraine was first invaded, Joe Biden was in the White House
Sun Jan 4, 2026, 01:11 PM
Sunday

The NATO leaders had every reason to assume that we would continue being the "good guy that saves the world." Now that Chump is back, they know it's up to them because Chump will never be that good guy.

I believe that the NATO allies are holding their collective breath, but also they realize that saving the world falls on them. Putin is weaker now than he was 3 years ago, and they've all noticed it. Who knows? Maybe there will be a change in Russia soon.

James48

(5,095 posts)
23. NATO against the U.S. military
Sun Jan 4, 2026, 10:00 PM
Sunday

Would be a bad scene all around.

The There are never winners in war- only those who have lost, and those who have lost more.

Irish_Dem

(79,887 posts)
25. The number of casualties would be very high.
Mon Jan 5, 2026, 05:43 AM
Monday

People are being delusional to think this is going to happen.

MadameButterfly

(3,746 posts)
15. I'm not sure what order but he has 3 years:
Sun Jan 4, 2026, 11:26 AM
Sunday

Panama
Mexico
Cuba (not sure what he want's there, but it's been mentioned, so....)
Greenland
Canada
Ukraine (at least it's minerals)

I'm sure he'll come up with some other ideas.

Irish_Dem

(79,887 posts)
17. Yes these are the potential crimes he has openly talked about.
Sun Jan 4, 2026, 11:54 AM
Sunday

He doesn't even bother to hide them.

Oh make no mistake, there are other crimes he doesn't even dare brag about.

He wants Cuba because he insists he is in control of this part of the hemisphere.

Farmer-Rick

(12,483 posts)
4. And now he's going to rob Venezuela too
Sun Jan 4, 2026, 08:54 AM
Sunday

He pockets our tax dollars and allows the filthy-rich to raid our government coffers. And now he's going to raid the wealth of Venezuela.

Next up Nigeria and Mexico. Will no one rid us of our bombing, demented, stumbling, pedophile convicted of fraud criminal as president?

KS Toronado

(23,060 posts)
6. Praying Gropenfuhrer doesn't have elections outlawed come Nov.
Sun Jan 4, 2026, 09:26 AM
Sunday

He's already hinted at it plus he knows he's going to lose big time.

FakeNoose

(40,213 posts)
9. He can't outlaw the midterm elections
Sun Jan 4, 2026, 09:38 AM
Sunday

... and yes the Repukes are going to lose a lot of seats in Congress.

Let's hope the Democrats win both the Senate and the House, because we need as much firepower as we can assemble in the next 12 months.

NBachers

(19,187 posts)
13. And they're loading in so much debt that Democrats won't have the resources to fix our ruined nation if they ever get
Sun Jan 4, 2026, 10:38 AM
Sunday

back in office. They'll find out all our assets have been stripped bare.

MadameButterfly

(3,746 posts)
16. I think its a different thing
Sun Jan 4, 2026, 11:37 AM
Sunday

expecting them to decide which foreign missions to comply with or not as opposed to whether to obey orders to shoot at and or arrest domestic protesters.

The military is not going to stop Trump by refusing to obey orders abroad.
They can stop Trump by refusing to participate in a military coup at home.

popsdenver

(1,569 posts)
21. This basically proves
Sun Jan 4, 2026, 08:15 PM
Sunday

that the Republicans have pulled off, not just a political,....... BUT also, a military Coup

Dan

(4,981 posts)
24. The only thing that we can do
Mon Jan 5, 2026, 12:18 AM
Monday

Or at least one thing is - vote against every single GOP candidate, regardless of their positions. There are no good GOP candidates.

Plus, the Democratic Party would be well-served to include something (if possible) in the party that says a Democrat candidate that wins and then chooses to switch party, can be recalled. Cause I strongly suspect that some GOP candidates will run at Democrats, win, and then switch back to their home party.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»It Wasn't Enough For The ...