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underpants

(194,960 posts)
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 03:49 PM Thursday

Kristi Noem doxxed the ICE murderer.

8 second clip in which she ID’s Ross as having been dragged by a car in June, 6 months ago. The Minneapolis Star Tribune took it from there.

Jesus these people are stupid.


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Kristi Noem doxxed the ICE murderer. (Original Post) underpants Thursday OP
They are beyond dumb malaise Thursday #1
IOW he's even stupider than we imagined for purposefully walking in front of a (wo)manned, running vehicle AZJonnie Thursday #2
This is pretty about who they have in the street underpants Thursday #6
Dumb as a Post, She Is! MineralMan Thursday #3
And Shady repeated it malaise Thursday #7
That's what having carnal knowledge of a sofa will do to your brain. MineralMan Thursday #9
DUzy malaise Thursday #10
She (they) seemed to think it was an excuse or explanation underpants Thursday #8
It provides the motive for the murder Johonny Thursday #21
You're a better man than I am, Gunga Din! lastlib Thursday #22
I had no idea that BOTOX and lip filler were also toxic to brain function... Moostache Thursday #26
The toxicity was a pre-existing condition. Marcuse Yesterday #63
the incompetence of this woman is staggering Skittles Thursday #4
Not the sharpest knife in the drawer. no_hypocrisy Thursday #5
BS Iwasthere Thursday #11
Thank You For This. BurnDoubt Thursday #18
She can say whatever she wants to Conjuay Thursday #12
Her brain is fried from too much Botox. flashman13 Thursday #13
Nah. It was shriveled long before. Botox may have actually made her lips the smartest body part. erronis Thursday #14
Maybe it isnt an accident 🤔 SSJVegeta Thursday #15
We sometimes think these people act through rational thought and planning. paleotn Thursday #19
I believe they have a plan, but I do not think they have the moxie to pull most of it off without a hitch. marble falls Thursday #31
And the plan is insanely unpopular coast to coast. It's crazy stuff. paleotn Thursday #58
3rd string JV underpants Thursday #46
I agree, It's worth considering . Shipwack Thursday #49
And we believe what she says? niyad Thursday #16
Apparently yes. She was just reading a speech someone prepared for her. underpants Thursday #42
Make his life a living hell. paleotn Thursday #17
"Situational Awareness" is a foreign concept to people who hate Kid Berwyn Thursday #20
I was think this last night, one of the videos was from almost right behind the car underpants Thursday #41
A programmed mindset for rage Kid Berwyn Thursday #60
Sadly he likely won't be held accountable vapor2 Thursday #62
The exercising of Situational Awareness can be overwhelming to people who are afraid of everything. Iggo Thursday #56
Information overload of fear. Kid Berwyn Thursday #61
Thanks, barbie. Just Jerome Thursday #23
Everytime she puts her head in her hat, it's automatically full of shit. marble falls Thursday #29
Just to be clear, that hat is not comically, grotesquely over-sized Bluetus Thursday #38
Good point: five pound hat, six pounds of shit. marble falls Thursday #39
Their incompetence may be the one thing that saves us. W_HAMILTON Thursday #24
Wonder iif Jonathan Ross appreciates that? Cha Thursday #25
A benefit of TACO hiring stupid people unqualified for their responsibility. They make mistakes and tell on themselves. marble falls Thursday #27
The excuse.that he has some sort of PTSD has begun officially Klarkashton Thursday #28
So the excuse is that he shouldn't have been out there in the first place? underpants Thursday #40
It's a sob story. No rational thinking behind it. Klarkashton Thursday #43
They have nothing but positive feedback inside their bubble and with influencers underpants Thursday #57
Bingo carpetbagger Thursday #47
EXACTLY! He should not be on the streets pretending to be law enforcement Attilatheblond Yesterday #65
The world would be a better place if Kristi Noem spent more time ... 11 Bravo Thursday #30
Don't forget she is a murderer of horses, goats and puppies. EVIL! tazcat Thursday #32
Gnome didn't care about her puppy, Hassler Thursday #33
We can use his picture and name for our protest signs calling for his arrest. mysteryowl Thursday #34
Maybe she killed the dog because he was much smarter than she is. Norbert Thursday #35
Rule #1 in a traffic stop, approach the car from the sides. surfered Thursday #36
I tried to find him yesterday, based on that comment. Ms. Toad Thursday #37
A pattern. They killed that poor person too, and then ICE lied that he was a criminal alien. SunSeeker Thursday #48
Good VanceFan Thursday #44
That reflects poorly on her and leadership. carpetbagger Thursday #45
Great story. This guy was chomping at the bit underpants Thursday #54
I'm sure the Trump Admin can't wait for people to seek violent retribution against him and others... AntiFascist Thursday #50
Stupid or arrogant? They can add up to the same outcome Warpy Thursday #51
They shouldn't be allowed to carry a STOP sign as a school crossing guard. Attilatheblond Yesterday #67
kakisticracy. creon Thursday #52
That's about the level of intelligence you'd expect from a blowup doll The Blue Flower Thursday #53
😂 underpants Thursday #59
meh, I figure she might be smart enough to put a target on a problem employee Attilatheblond Yesterday #68
Thanks and watch your steps on the way down. Dave Bowman Thursday #55
Cosplay Kristi -all Hat no Ethics Ranting Randy Yesterday #64
Noem is an evil, vapid criminal and will be punished for her crimes against the American people Mysterian Yesterday #66
As soon as the words were out of her mouth I knew it would be moments before he was identified... Native 22 hrs ago #69
This message was self-deleted by its author Native 22 hrs ago #70

AZJonnie

(2,837 posts)
2. IOW he's even stupider than we imagined for purposefully walking in front of a (wo)manned, running vehicle
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 03:57 PM
Thursday

While his partners in crime swarmed in from the drivers side screaming at an innocent US citizen exercising their constitutional rights to "get out of the fucking car". Dude had ALREADY pulled a stupid move around moving vehicles, just 6 months before.

If what Noem is saying is even true in the first place, this particular tidbit is the OPPOSITE of exculpatory, rather it provides MOTIVE.

Good job, KKKristi!

underpants

(194,960 posts)
6. This is pretty about who they have in the street
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 04:00 PM
Thursday

Yeah this is pretty telling about literally being any warm body. 6 months?
No evaluation? Down time? Normal HR stuff I’d think law enforcement or not.

I said yesterday that he looked like he was chomping at the bit. He really was.

underpants

(194,960 posts)
8. She (they) seemed to think it was an excuse or explanation
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 04:01 PM
Thursday

I posted earlier that he apparently got 33 stitches from the first instance.

Just put him back out there I guess.

lastlib

(27,562 posts)
22. You're a better man than I am, Gunga Din!
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 05:33 PM
Thursday

Politesse escapes me at this moment.

Krusty Noem is a stupid lying silo-load of dysenteric whaleshit.

Moostache

(10,983 posts)
26. I had no idea that BOTOX and lip filler were also toxic to brain function...
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 05:44 PM
Thursday

Learn something new all the time!

Skittles

(169,615 posts)
4. the incompetence of this woman is staggering
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 03:58 PM
Thursday

no way would she have lasted any amount of time in the IT world I worked int

Iwasthere

(3,502 posts)
11. BS
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 04:08 PM
Thursday


From Title 1, U.S. DOJ Policy on Use of Force:
"Firearms may not be discharged solely to disable moving vehicles. Specifically, firearms may not be discharged at a moving vehicle unless: (1) a person in the vehicle is threatening the officer or another person with deadly force by means other than the vehicle; or (2) the vehicle is operated in a manner that threatens to cause death or serious physical injury ... and no other objectively reasonable means of defense appear to exist, which includes moving out of the path of the vehicle."
Also, placing oneself in the path of a moving vehicle constitutes officer-created jeopardy and undermines any claim that deadly force was necessary.

BurnDoubt

(1,477 posts)
18. Thank You For This.
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 05:07 PM
Thursday

Lack of training or proper supervision as well as any evidence this person has the mental capacity and the psychological makeup to handle complex interactions in a professional manner. I’m sure willingness to do violence and an abiding hatred of “WOKE” and fealty to a Tyrant was all the resume they needed. Unqualified and unprincipled is the demographic they are sifting for.
I’m sure they DID get a chalk-talk about ”Warrior Ethos" and Masculine Superiority and pumped-full of hate speech and bravado. You know, “The Sayings Of Secretary Of DEFENCE" Shit-For Brains, to the beat of chest-thumping.
Toxic Masculinity writ in Spades, literally.
And KKKristi she’s their poster-child for Equal Rights. Women CAN be just as Evil and Deplorable as the Worst Toxic Male.
Congratulations.

Conjuay

(2,903 posts)
12. She can say whatever she wants to
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 04:09 PM
Thursday

We can't confirm or deny anything she claims about his previous actions because he was a masked and unidentified felon then as well.

erronis

(22,675 posts)
14. Nah. It was shriveled long before. Botox may have actually made her lips the smartest body part.
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 04:54 PM
Thursday

paleotn

(21,576 posts)
19. We sometimes think these people act through rational thought and planning.
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 05:09 PM
Thursday

It's normal for sane, rational people to think that. Then we quickly discover no, that isn't the case. They're dumber than fucking fence posts. Really, the only thing we have going for us right now.

marble falls

(71,104 posts)
31. I believe they have a plan, but I do not think they have the moxie to pull most of it off without a hitch.
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 05:48 PM
Thursday

Shipwack

(3,001 posts)
49. I agree, It's worth considering .
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 06:25 PM
Thursday

However…

"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." 1980 – Robert J. Hanlon (among many others)

underpants

(194,960 posts)
42. Apparently yes. She was just reading a speech someone prepared for her.
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 06:07 PM
Thursday

God this would be hilarious if it wasn’t about such a tragic event.

Kid Berwyn

(23,009 posts)
20. "Situational Awareness" is a foreign concept to people who hate
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 05:14 PM
Thursday

...what they don't understand...
...who they don't know...
...how it doesn't profit them...

underpants

(194,960 posts)
41. I was think this last night, one of the videos was from almost right behind the car
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 06:06 PM
Thursday

He was so fueled with rage (I mean aside from firing three rounds in the middle of a residential street) that he didn’t process that someone was basically in the line of fire?

Kid Berwyn

(23,009 posts)
60. A programmed mindset for rage
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 10:58 PM
Thursday

Automatic hate as muscle memory that overrides frontal lobe processing in sending messaging commands. The guy had his hands full, filming the “arrest scene” with one hand and grabbing his semiautomatic with the other. Think it was Glenn Kirschner who asked if his body cam was on.

vapor2

(3,787 posts)
62. Sadly he likely won't be held accountable
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 11:35 PM
Thursday

Shooting someone in the head 3 times should land him in jail for years. The continued lawlessness befuddles me

Iggo

(49,662 posts)
56. The exercising of Situational Awareness can be overwhelming to people who are afraid of everything.
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 06:54 PM
Thursday

Kid Berwyn

(23,009 posts)
61. Information overload of fear.
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 11:01 PM
Thursday

When panic arises, I try to use what critical faculties I can muster to find a way forward.

LOL. Like it helps.

Bluetus

(2,308 posts)
38. Just to be clear, that hat is not comically, grotesquely over-sized
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 05:58 PM
Thursday

It is a normal size hat. It is just that her brain is so tiny, it looks like the hat is resting on her shoulders.

Cha

(316,842 posts)
25. Wonder iif Jonathan Ross appreciates that?
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 05:38 PM
Thursday

So he's a Trigger Happy Homicidal Maniac... Needs to be put away in Prison.

TY

marble falls

(71,104 posts)
27. A benefit of TACO hiring stupid people unqualified for their responsibility. They make mistakes and tell on themselves.
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 05:45 PM
Thursday

Klarkashton

(4,740 posts)
28. The excuse.that he has some sort of PTSD has begun officially
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 05:45 PM
Thursday

That matters more than his identity I guess.

underpants

(194,960 posts)
40. So the excuse is that he shouldn't have been out there in the first place?
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 06:02 PM
Thursday

Is there any actual management at ICE/DHS?

Klarkashton

(4,740 posts)
43. It's a sob story. No rational thinking behind it.
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 06:13 PM
Thursday

Shooting from the hip. They have been underthinking this thing from the start.

underpants

(194,960 posts)
57. They have nothing but positive feedback inside their bubble and with influencers
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 07:04 PM
Thursday

Their hubris makes Dick&W look like hopeful teenagers at a dance.

He can’t be wrong. There’s no way he can ever be wrong. Very dangerous.

Attilatheblond

(8,307 posts)
65. EXACTLY! He should not be on the streets pretending to be law enforcement
Fri Jan 9, 2026, 12:16 PM
Yesterday

The goons don't understand what the job is LEGALLY. They are just happy to be overpaid to act on their untreated mental problems

11 Bravo

(24,279 posts)
30. The world would be a better place if Kristi Noem spent more time ...
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 05:47 PM
Thursday

smoking Corey Lewandowski's pole, and less time murdering Minnesota moms.
Just a thought.

Hassler

(4,767 posts)
33. Gnome didn't care about her puppy,
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 05:52 PM
Thursday

Why should she care about a killer goon when she can easily find another magat goon.

Ms. Toad

(38,308 posts)
37. I tried to find him yesterday, based on that comment.
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 05:56 PM
Thursday

I found a different ICE agent who was dragged by a car. That agent killed the driver. (

)

SunSeeker

(57,590 posts)
48. A pattern. They killed that poor person too, and then ICE lied that he was a criminal alien.
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 06:24 PM
Thursday

But as the video points out, Viegas Gonzalez had no criminal record, just a few speeding tickets, the last one in 2014.

carpetbagger

(5,413 posts)
45. That reflects poorly on her and leadership.
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 06:20 PM
Thursday

Sounds like this guy had a Shawinigan Handshake moment (look it up, it's pretty funny in that case because the guy lived), a cop in a rogue force with ptsd from his experience and nobody trying to mitigate it, and the guy snapped in a predictable situation.

I will change my opinion about this if evidence shows the guy to be a total bad seed vs. an average bad seed of ICE.

underpants

(194,960 posts)
54. Great story. This guy was chomping at the bit
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 06:35 PM
Thursday

We may never know if he is indeed a bad seed. I kinda hope he is but from what I’ve seen , there’s quite a culture of violence.

AntiFascist

(13,732 posts)
50. I'm sure the Trump Admin can't wait for people to seek violent retribution against him and others...
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 06:27 PM
Thursday

then they will have a better excuse to advance their invasion and ultimately declare martial law. Noem probably wants to put him out there as a pawn.

Gov. Walz has already activated the National Guard. He has talked about using the Guard to protect against "a rogue ICE agent" and has also suggested it may be necessary to use armed guards to protect children at certain schools. Meanwhile, there should be plenty of support for a civil suit in state court against the murderer.

Warpy

(114,392 posts)
51. Stupid or arrogant? They can add up to the same outcome
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 06:30 PM
Thursday

but one will get her fired while the other will get her appreciated.

Now it's time for people who can see well enough to do the job to search the perp's history for ties to various flavors of fascist good ole boy clubs.

I can foresee a day when putting "ICE Agent" oin a resumé disqualifies them on the spot from any job that allows them to carry a gun.

creon

(1,830 posts)
52. kakisticracy.
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 06:33 PM
Thursday

It is a kakistocracy.
A Kasistocracy that is assaultive, vindictive and gormless.

The Blue Flower

(6,355 posts)
53. That's about the level of intelligence you'd expect from a blowup doll
Thu Jan 8, 2026, 06:34 PM
Thursday

Stupid is the other side of the coin from incompetent narcissist.

Attilatheblond

(8,307 posts)
68. meh, I figure she might be smart enough to put a target on a problem employee
Fri Jan 9, 2026, 12:30 PM
Yesterday

in hopes someone will take him down and give her an excuse to unleash them all on the population. It would get her a lot of brownie points with the Felon In Chief.

Mysterian

(6,177 posts)
66. Noem is an evil, vapid criminal and will be punished for her crimes against the American people
Fri Jan 9, 2026, 12:19 PM
Yesterday

when the rule of law is re-established in the U.S.A.

Native

(7,302 posts)
69. As soon as the words were out of her mouth I knew it would be moments before he was identified...
Fri Jan 9, 2026, 04:35 PM
22 hrs ago

I'm honestly surprised it took as long as it did. They really are a whole new level of stupid.

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