Who could be the only trained professional in this scenario performing negligently?

[RoeVWade]

The officer standing forward of an occupied vehicle with its engine running in an angry crowd situation, or a mother of 3?

In short, his training or lack of it contributed to her death did it not? Who trains officers to act like that in that situation?

I think it's good argument for the civil case, perhaps more.

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1. Noem and Donnie have made it clear that policy is to shoot with impunity.

Absolute immunity and zero accountability.

They're not even acknowledging that he did anything wrong. Never mind murder, they're saying he acted appropriately and consistent with policy.

They are the Gestapo

[leftieNanner]

2. And I understand that

The feds are blocking a State inquiry.

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4. Of course. They are perfect and never make mistakes or do anything wrong.

So any investigation is just partisan interference.

When do we start calling it repression?

[AZJonnie]

5. It's fucking REPRESSION!!!

So, officially, right now

[unblock]

7. Thanks!

Now how do we get you a job as an msm anchor?

[John1956PA]

3. He was distracted with his act of video recording the vehicle.

Properly trained and competent officers keep their focus on the evolving situation at hand, not on video recording it.

[AZJonnie]

6. Was he really? I've watched the various vids many times but somehow never noticed he was recording

At what point did he stop doing so?

And yes to all you said. That why they have use affixed body cams for this purpose, in fact

Funnily though, this asshole appears to be a 10 year local LE veteran. I bet when he's in his cop clothes he doesn't purposefully step 5 feet in front of running, manned vehicles though. IMHO he purposefully placed himself in a spot where he could a) easily get out of teh way in time, and b) still shoot the driver while claiming self-defense, if she decided to drive away. He's knows he can't get away with that unmasked in a cop uniform, but with his "total immunity" Big Government job, it's easy-peasy.

[John1956PA]

8. There is a video which shows him in the act of video recording.

He starts his video recording session at at the right rear of the victim's car. He is focussed on the screen of his phone as he walks along the right side of the car to its front. I think it is at some point at the front of the car that he begins to snap out of his daydreaming and stops recording. As I mentioned in previous posts, for all we know, he may have been live streaming the scene on Facebook to impress his friends.

If you look at the video analysis published by the New York Times, your will see the video of him looking intently at the screen of his phone as he is walking along the right side of Ms. Good's car.

[AZJonnie]

9. Thanks! Can't believe I'd not noticed or read about that

That really just makes it worse

[ms liberty]

10. Wow. A good attorney for the family will supoena that phone and any video

If I was on the legal team, I know I'd like to see it.

[RoeVWade]

11. BTW, who trains law officers to try to open a door with the engine on and driver ready to go? Sounds stupid to me.

Good way to get dragged.

BUT, not familiar enough with newer cars where car engine turns off and on while stopped. Is there enough of delay that a person can quickly remove their hand before the car moves?

[Takket]

12. Not really

I just got one of these cars with auto stop and I disable it all the time because it annoys me. But suffice to say the instant you lift your foot off the brake the engine starts and is ready to go by the time your foot is on the gas. Takes only a few tenths of a second.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

13. Training isn't the issue. Ross himself was a trainer.