General Discussion
Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe IDGAF-ness of CosPlay Botox Ice Barbie, and one way to prevent future "agents" like Jonathan Ross
In all fairness, dressing up in various costumes for photo ops and boning Corey Lewandowski is a full-time job.
But let's look at Jonathan Ross' claim that "he was dragged more than 100 yards by car during a traffic stop."
IN THE REAL WORLD OF LAW ENFORCEMENT, any time an officer is involved in an extremely traumatic situation, whether it's "dragged by a car" or an "officer-involved shooting," and they claim they "feared for their life," they are put on a mandatory "psych evaluation" and do NOT return to duty until it is determined that it is safe for them to do so.
IF ROSS shot Good in the face because of "residual PTSD" over being "allegedly dragged," it's 100% on Noem and Lewandowski and the other assholes running ICE for PUTTING HIM BACK IN THE FIELD.
Of course, it could all be lies, excuses, and bullshit. He might just like shooting people in the face.
You can read about Ross' credentials at the link I provided. None of that matters, because it all comes back to his murdering an innocent, unarmed woman on a city street in America.
Noem needs to spend less time mounting Lewandowski and more time doing her job.
Irish_Dem
(79,889 posts)Because of his mental illness he was more prone to kill innocent people.
His superiors are guilty of negligence resulting in a civilian death.
They need to be charged with murder.
Miles Archer
(21,815 posts)What "may" or "may not" have happened with the alleged "dragging incident" is irrelevant.
If his "justification" for murdering Good is that he "feared for his life" after being "dragged," he NEVER SHOULD HAVE BEEN ALLOWED TO GO BACK OUT INTO THE FIELD.
No one's ever going to accuse Noem of "doing a great job." But this is just gross negligence, a dereliction of duty, and...as I said in the O/P...a crystal clear case of "IDGAF" on her part.
It's the same as her "justification" for shooting her puppy in the face...she said she "hated" that dog for "ruining" her pheasant hunt.
NONE of the 2025 predictions about Trump "cleaning house" in the new year have come true. Noem, Patel, Hegseth, Bondi all have jobs. They're just not doing them because "performance art" for Fox "News" makes actual accomplishments impossible.
Ocelot II
(129,135 posts)in circumstances where he is likely to encounter a situation similar to the one in which he was injured without first making damn sure he's recovered psychologically; the likelihood that he would overreact is considerable, and that's what seems to have happened here. It doesn't absolve him, of course - he walked in front of the car contrary to his agency's guidance, shot into a car also contrary to that guidance, and was recording with his own phone while holding his gun in his other hand. Who does that, and why? If these guys want a record of what they do they should be wearing body cams like most other cops.
Irish_Dem
(79,889 posts)to determine fitness for duty, the officer must be cleared to return to work.
Sometimes counseling is necessary which might successfully work through the trauma.
Sometimes not. And the person is not cleared and goes on disability or seeks new employment.
Sometimes the person can go back to work but in a capacity where there is no contact
with the public.
Irish_Dem
(79,889 posts)karynnj
(60,788 posts)In their minds, they have demonized the POC immigrants and anyone who would support them. They ignore that most of the people they have gone after are powerless, hard working people trying to build lives as refugees. When allowed to their contribution to the communities that welcome them is immense.
The entire MAGA base seems to blame immigrants for every change to their towns, state and country, ignoring much of the change was from those in the top 1 percent.
I suspect that it is Trump, the Heritage Foundation, and the tech bros who have weaponized the latent xenophobia that has been there at least over the last 100 years.
Irish_Dem
(79,889 posts)Yes it is all made up stuff to justify their behavior and get what they want.
They will kill as many people as it takes to achieve their goal of unlimited power and wealth.