What did Vance think would be exculpatory?

[LAS14]

I know, I know, they lie and lie and lie. But since Vance authorised the release of that video from Ross's cell phone, he must have thought there was something in it that supported his lies. What was it? I can't see a scintilla of a reason for him to release it.

[Dave Bowman]

1. The nasty weirdo sees what he wants to see.

[UpInArms]

2. I think that the existence of Ross's cellphone video

Is actually more damning

It shows there was never any fear of personal injury, as he continued to film while he unholstered his weapon and fired it with no change in the steadiness of the video …

(Aside: When I am at all nervous, I can’t even take a phot clearly)

[CrispyQ]

4. His video is way more damning!!

As he walks around her car & she tells him she's not mad at him & before the two thugs in masks show up, you can see his reflection in her car & he's holding his cell phone in his right hand. He encounters her wife at the back of the car & continues around to the passengers side & somewhere there, he transfers his phone to his left hand & by the time he's back in front of the driver, & one of the thugs in masks is pushing his arm into her car, the shooter has his hand on his weapon.

They want to kill & if they think they have immunity, & many of them might believe they do, after reading how dumb a bunch of them apparently are, then this will be the norm. I read that nine others have been killed & all of them shot in their cars.

[Randypiper]

16. I Agree

It has a "hold my beer" feel to it.

[RockRaven]

3. It isn't about objective evidence per se. Anything that serves as fodder will do

because the right wing authoritarian tribalism can turn anything into reality-free talking points which they will parrot to themselves and others without the slightest bit of embarrassment. The very fact that something was released gives them the "Aha! See!?" impetus.

I know that you know that they lie and lie and lie. But Vance knows that too. And he was counting on it. And he wasn't wrong. If you look at what MAGAts are saying, they are not ashamed of the video, they are spinning tales of righteousness about it.

[underpants]

8. Nailed it. It's for mass distribution on X. I even saw a fawning post about Trump reading Rubio's note

at the meeting with the oil executives. Rubio passed him a note to go back to Chevron. Trump reads it out loud totally unaware.

It doesn’t matter what it is, the tell the audience what to think. Fox championed this framing what the audience was about to see and hear. It works.

He released it and every influencer did the “Aha! See!?” as you said and eeeeeveryone of their followers fall in line.

[C_U_L8R]

5. I doubt he even watched it.

As evil as these fuckers are… they’re even more lazy and incompetent.

[lapfog_1]

6. The murderer video shows

some jerkiness and the camera pointing at the sky and the ground when he draws his gun to kill Ms. Good.

I think the idiots on the right are claiming that this is because her vehicle hit the murderer. However all it really shows is that as he was drawing his weapon to kill her, his attention was not on holding his cell phone steady.

In any event, why is he even using his phone to record this interaction?

My belief is that he moved to the front of the vehicle to "block her in" so they could arrest her for "obstruction" ( although it would never go to trial because she had already waved another ICE vehicle past where she was parked, clearly they were not being obstructed ). I think he was prepared to draw and shoot first because of his anger ( and fear ) from the previous interaction with a vehicle where he was dragged with his arm being cut by the glass that HE BROKE. He should have never been back in the field. He clearly had issues with protesters and "liberals". He was already primed to kill even before encountering Renee...

The kicker is the two shots through the open driver side window as she drove her car PAST him. He clearly was not in any danger at that point, and could determine that he was not in any dangerr. If either of those shots was the "kill shot", he should face intentional murder ( 1st degree ) charges, if the fatal shot was the one through the windshield then negligent homicide or manslaughter. Either way he needs to be in prison for a very long time.

[Blues Heron]

12. I think all three shots were 1st degree murder, premeditated

[underpants]

13. Your middle paragraph was spot on. Ross has hot-head written all over him.

6 months? If this wasn’t his first time back in the field, it should’ve been. He wasn’t ready or he was TOO ready.

We need a good public look at operations in ICE. I’m not holding my breath. We know their recruitment and training was bad and is diminishing.
Did he get a break aside from physical recovery?
From at least a HR CYA perspective, did anyone talk to him? Okay him for return?
Do they have a rotation schedule?

There was no reasonfor Ross to draw his weapon AT ALL.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

7. He knew the base would see exactly what the regime wants them to see. An uppity queer woman getting what's coming to her

[underpants]

10. And the machine ran with it.

Exactly what you said. I’ve seen it all over Twitter and even Facebook.

[Paladin]

9. I wonder when Vance will realize his political future is vanishing?

I just hope it's long after there's anything he can do to salvage it...

[underpants]

11. This isn't going well for him whether he knows it or not.

By all accounts he has the nomination wrapped up but this doesn’t sell well with anyone outside of the cult.

[Paladin]

15. It's all been downhill for Vance...

...ever since he went full racist at that Charlie Kirk neo-Nazi gathering. Every time he speaks in public, it seems he gets less popular. Very gratifying...

[RedWhiteBlueIsRacist]

14. Ross was videoing a snuff movie for Stephen Miller, Donald Trump and the Federal Government.

They say Ross is a devout Christian. Figures.

[pinkstarburst]

17. I want to believe that Vance is

so howl at the moon stupid that he didn't realize how it would play, just like the murderer ICE agent who filmed himself committing murder (which was stupid AF) should have realized making a tiktok when you're claiming your life is in danger isn't a real smart move.

I want to believe that these people are just so stupid it hurts.

But I fear this was released on purpose, that her murder was broadcast to the entire country to terrorize anyone who still might be willing to stand up and protest, resist ICE, fight back. I think they wanted the image of that blonde suburban mom fresh off from school drop off, a US Citizen, getting murdered by an ICE agent, and have the country hear from the vice president "he has full immunity" and have us see that there would be zero consequences.

I think this is about terror, about trying to suppress protest, about them trying to beat down our will to fight back. We know he won't be prosecuted, and even if he was, he would be pardoned if he were convicted. These are scare tactics.

[moondust]

18. If she wanted to run over the shooter,

she would NOT have turned the steering wheel far to the right and hit the gas. She would have hit the gas and moved straight ahead or to the left.