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So this is becoming pretty clear what happened. It's only my opinion and I'm not trying to be intentionally hateful or prejudiced either way. I have had a long relationship with law enforcement and value that.
It appears to me, she was coming home from taking her kid to school and saw a bunch of ICE agents on her street. I'm sure it pissed her off and well... she was clearly showing her ass. She was blowing the horn and a whistle and pissing the ICE agents off.
It's clear, they got fed up with her and that's when they designated her a terrorist. It's clear from all angles the ICE agent intended to teach her a lesson.
They rolled up on her. She got scared and panicked and then they shot her in the face 3 times as she tried to flee arrest.
She was not a terrorist. Truth. She was actually interfering with law enforcement and could have been arrested. Sorry, that's the reality.
However, if those were real police, the story would have been different. Real police knew they had her license plate, they could have just walked down the street and arrested her.
The problem was... ICE wasn't acting as law enforcement. They are going after "narco-terrorists" and that's not a civilian law enforcement mission. As Noem stated... they branded her a "terrorist" and when she did not comply, they ended her. He was pissed off at her when he shot her but he was given the freedom to kill her by Noem, and he took it.
Please understand, Any real law enforcement officer would have actually laughed at someone speeding away in thier own car. We would know exactly where they were and they had left the passenger behind. Clearly these were not the brightest terrorists on the planet. Goode was disturbing the peace and possibly impeding law enforcement... that may not stick in court but I'm certain a real police officer would have charged her with it. Also... evading arrest. When they showed up later to arrest her at her home.
What actually happened was criminal and an crime of passion. That man was just pissed off that those women were taunting him and he shot her 3 times in the face for it.
That's our America.
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Irish_Dem
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Bluetus
(2,316 posts)They are not "law enforcement". They have no such authority. Their authority goes only so far as to enforce judicial warrants related to immigration. They have no arrest powers beyond that. Anything they do that is not specifically involved with enforcing a warrant is kidnapping., not "arrest". They have no power to take a person into court and arraign them, unless they are part of a specific judicial warrant.
They have illegally kidnapped thousands of people by now. Have any of those false arrests ended up before a judge? I doubt it. ICE illegally holds them captive for a few hours or days, then they let them go, or otherwise the victims just disappear.
Irish_Dem
(79,910 posts)Bluetus
(2,316 posts)These are not intelligent or well-trained people. And obviously a lot of them have some pretty severe mental problems.
Irish_Dem
(79,910 posts)All he had left was killing her in his mind.
Bluetus
(2,316 posts)And that is clearly the culture Trump and Noem want.
There is no question what is going on here. This is Trump's SS. We need to hold every single Republican accountable for voting for that in the Big Bill.
yankee87
(2,761 posts)Ms. Good did not attempt to run him over. The ICE agent has some serious issues and wanted to shoot her when she was a lesbian terrorist. I hope he sits in jail for life.
mikelewis
(4,583 posts)She pissed him off and he killed her.
It's pretty clear.
Cirsium
(3,384 posts)He was calmly videotaping the incident.
I utterly reject your "rogue actor" theorizing about this, as well as your "if your protesting you need to be prepared to be arrested" nonsense.
mikelewis
(4,583 posts)I don't think that's going to happen.
He shot her in rage... not duty. That's so completely clear now.
NH Ethylene
(31,294 posts)mikelewis
(4,583 posts)It seems legit and to the timeline.
Also it makes a lot of sense as to what happened...
She pissed them off and they killed her. End of story.
NH Ethylene
(31,294 posts)But maybe it was due to an ad or something.
sop
(17,483 posts)What law was ICE enforcing on her street? Did she interfere with ICE while they were arresting someone?
mikelewis
(4,583 posts)She would have had her day in court.
Remember, real law enforcement isn't wrong for doing thier duty.
If she's protesting she has to be ok with going to jail for violating the law. She deserves her day in court... not a bullet to the head.
What is wrong with people?
Blaming the victim. Why?
Violating what "law?"
sop
(17,483 posts)If she was blocking the street, write her a ticket. Yelling at cops, blowing whistles, and photographing them in public places is not against the law according to the Supreme Court. She was a protester. She pissed off the cops. So they created a pretext and shot her.
NJCher
(42,519 posts)because ICE cannot act as law enforcement. Here's a graphic that explains what they can and cannot do:
https://www.reddit.com/r/newjersey/comments/1qa3nhv/what_are_ice_allowed_to_do/#lightbox
questionseverything
(11,585 posts)
choie
(6,644 posts)Saying that you’d slap an impeding law enforcement charge on her. Impeding them from doing what? Being thugs?
johnp3907
(4,221 posts)And that’s saying a lot.
Cirsium
(3,384 posts)There's a "new angle" don't you know.
Yes, worst take imaginable. Worse than Trump and Noem's outright and obvious lying.
bigtree
(93,391 posts)...we can clearly see her waving cars by, and those cars having the room to pass including ICE vehicles.
We can also see her attempt to get in that line of cars exiting before they approached her vehicle.
So much print in the op that diverts from the point, which is that there is no reason for her to have been shot for disobeying some arbitrary and it appears, conflicting, traffic direction.
She was observing in her vehicle, not obstructing anything ICE was doing.
Cirsium
(3,384 posts)"She was actually interfering with law enforcement and could have been arrested. Sorry, that's the reality."
Sorry, you are quite wrong. Interfering with whom, masked anonymous thugs, and what exactly were they doing? Certainly not "law enforcement." Law breaking is more like it.
"She tried to flee arrest. "
Arrested for what? Honking her horn?
I was wondering how people would introduce ambiguity and confusion to the situation. Here it is.
I think what you are trying to do is worse than what Trump and Noem are doing to mislead and confuse people.
mikelewis
(4,583 posts)Honestly, grow up.
Cirsium
(3,384 posts)...
eShirl
(20,089 posts)
LuckyCharms
(21,854 posts)with a long diatribe of meaningless words...when your intention is to imply that the victim somehow was at fault.
Your intentions are showing through in this post, and that's why you are getting unfavorable feedback.
People are reading this in a way that says "She was at fault".
It's because of the language you used.
People are genuinely sickened by what happened. People are worried for their wives and daughters. People are worried if they will be next.
And to read your long OP containing the words "she showed her ass" negates everything you THINK you are trying to say.
I don't think we've interacted before, but if a lot of people tell you that you are wrong, than you likely are indeed wrong.
Your OP insulted the memory of the victim, and an apology, rather than a lame clarification, would probably go a long way.
Torchlight
(6,321 posts)on which your premise as well as conclusion lie on.
Prairie Gates
(7,215 posts)
flashman13
(2,044 posts)I expect it will be taken down very soon.
mikelewis
(4,583 posts)Holy shit... read it again...
This is proof that he stone cold murdered that woman. Fuck.
dpibel
(3,786 posts)I mean, it's not as if you said, "I'm sure it pissed her off and well... she was clearly showing her ass. She was blowing the horn and a whistle and pissing the ICE agents off."
How could anyone misinterpret the stately and measured proclamation, "Goode was disturbing the peace and possibly impeding law enforcement... that may not stick in court but I'm certain a real police officer would have charged her with it. Also... evading arrest. When they showed up later to arrest her at her home."
Some people are such snowflakes, huh?
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dpibel
(3,786 posts)A person can so totally not get it.
But you really don't.
You should check out the concept of "but for" causation. Because that's what you're arguing. And, regardless what you may claim about your conclusion, you are saying that the killing, which you claim to acknowledge as unjustified, would never had happened, had the victim not been, in your well-crafted words, "showing her ass."
Cha
(316,893 posts)Pissed me off.. 
".. showing her ass..."
Renee Nicole Good..🌺🌻🌸🕯️🕊️💜
MorbidButterflyTat
(4,202 posts)She was mooning him? 
Cha
(316,893 posts)Renee Nicol Good and her Memory. 
I'm so Grateful for All the Objections. ☮️
NJCher
(42,519 posts)We use a lot of offensive language on DU but at least most people are sensitive enough to throw them at trump et al, not a person shot in the face.
Orrex
(66,691 posts)
GreenWave
(12,368 posts)
WhiskeyGrinder
(26,380 posts)are not a death sentence. So FOH with "showing her ass."
mikelewis
(4,583 posts)It's absolutely clear what happened...
And it does not remotely justify shooting her in the face.
This proves she was murdered by ICE.
To me... it completely explains what happened...
She pissed him off and he killed her.
End of story.
WhiskeyGrinder
(26,380 posts)Anger is not seen as an emotional response for men. This isn't the gotcha you seem to think it is.
mikelewis
(4,583 posts)That man got pissed off at her for laying on the horn...
And he killed her.
Simple as that.
canetoad
(20,252 posts)Was released by KGnome. Are you 100% sure that the sound of a horn wasn't edited in? With all that's going on and the distance from the camera, the sound was pretty loud and crystal clear. Seems very suss to me.
electric_blue68
(25,965 posts)how can I put it - seemingly directional?
I couldn't tell at all where it was coming from.
I hope this makes sense.
Wiz Imp
(9,017 posts)There is absolutely no way to know where the horn was coming from.
Wiz Imp
(9,017 posts)Cars were easily passing her both in front and behind her vehicle until an ICEvehcile block the road behind her. And how the hell do you know she was laying on the horn. There were lots of cars there. There is no way of knowing which car or cars it was coming from.
canetoad
(20,252 posts)You have completly misunderstood my post. I won't bother responding.
Cirsium
(3,384 posts)Wiz Imp is responding to another member.
Cosmocat
(15,350 posts)Every video shows the vehicle immediately in front of the truck that ICE got out of to go after her easily pass by the front of her vehicle.
Cha
(316,893 posts)mikelewis
(4,583 posts)Wuddles440
(1,971 posts)and there was absolutely no justification for any of actions by these "agents". She was not interfering with them, they ignored the Use of Force Continuum, and violated many generally accepted law enforcement policies, procedures and guidelines. These are nothing more than unqualified, lawless, immoral, and unethical psychopaths who have been unleashed on our citizenry.
mikelewis
(4,583 posts)That traffic stop was not remotely professional and it appears that the agent was antagonized when he shot and killed her.
That's a crime of passion, not duty.
valleyrogue
(2,595 posts)He was likely mad at what her wife, who was not in the car, had said to him, and intentionally misinterpreted what she was saying as an excuse for not having any anger management skills whatsoever. If you see that version of the video where the wife is included, you will know what I am referring to. This psychopath took it out on Renee Good. Renee didn't do a damned thing wrong.
Picaro
(2,335 posts)Because she may have allegedly blocked the road briefly that means it was okay to shoot her in the face?
canetoad
(20,252 posts)She 'blocked' the road because she couldn't get past another vehicle already blocking the road.
bluestarone
(21,217 posts)WOW!
mikelewis
(4,583 posts)This video shows what led up to the incident.
She pissed them off and he shot her dead.
This is proof it was murder.
You are very mistaken in your assessment of me and my motives.
MorbidButterflyTat
(4,202 posts)Besides the one where you demand the last word?
EarlG
(23,387 posts)And if you interfere with law enforcement, yes, you risk arrest. That's the purpose of civil disobedience. Half the time, the purpose of doing it is to get hauled away for being a nuisance. None of that means that somebody should be given an instant death sentence for parking their car halfway across a road.
Just prior to the shooting you can see her waving cars past. She's committing a traffic offense, but she's not impeding ICE. They could have just driven around her. The cop who shot her filmed the whole thing, and we've seen the video -- he lingers on her license plate, so yes, real law enforcement -- if they'd wanted to give her a ticket -- could have just gone to her house later.
She was given two conflicting orders: she was told to move her car, and she was told to get out of the car. More specifically, she was told to "Get out of the fucking car" by an officer who lunged at her and reached into her car to yank the door open. At that point she chose to obey the "move" command -- probably completely on instinct -- and ended up being immediately shot.
If they'd wanted to arrest her, real law enforcement would have simply ordered her out of the car. They would have done so in a forceful but calm manner. They had her plate, all they had to do was tell her to step out of the car, repeatedly, until she did it. If at that point she chose to bolt, then that's a crime. But they know who she is and they know where to find her -- they don't need to give chase.
Instead, one ICE agent told her to move her car, another one strode towards her screaming "Get out of the fucking car" and grabbing at her, then a third one put himself in a position to shoot her three times.
I know I basically just echoed what you just said. I agree that she was committing civil disobedience. But of course peaceful civil disobedience has a long and proud history in this country. It very much bothers me to see powerful people on the right, from the top of the U.S. government down to pundits on mainstream news shows, shrugging off the idea that if someone is committing "good trouble" then they should be prepared to die at the hands of "law enforcement."
mikelewis
(4,583 posts)Honestly... everyone is pissed off at me for posting this...
But the truth is...
This put the entire story into focus.
That agent got pissed and shot her 3 times in the face. Period.
EarlG
(23,387 posts)And you also said that she "showed her ass" which is pretty insensitive, especially given that everyone is on edge at the moment.
But my point -- and this is the point I think you were trying to make -- is that it's okay to say that she was interfering. Peaceful civil disobedience is exactly what John Lewis called "good trouble." She had her car halfway across the road, which is a traffic offense. Meanwhile people were blowing whistles, they were filming and mouthing off to the cops. That's not illegal.
What is worrying to me is that folks are countering the right-wing's "She was asking for it!" talking point by reflexively suggesting that she wasn't doing anything. But she was doing something. So I think the correct response is, "In the course of committing a basic traffic offense, she was ordered to move her car while another officer tried to yank open her car door, and she chose to move. For that she was shot three times and killed." If we pretend that she wasn't engaging in "good trouble," I believe it might actually bolster the right-wing's talking point that civil disobedience is a death penalty offense.
Cha
(316,893 posts)Heartbreaking to see that about Renee Nicole Good on this board, after all we've seen of her Murder by ICE Killer Jonathan Ross. 
LuvLoogie
(8,536 posts)Murder sometimes is born of Anger. It is always born of Malice, an intent of harm to the target.
This Malice is born of White Supremacy, a default state of mind that always starts from patriarchal bigotry and overlords any that would defend its targets. Your analysis centers the "noncompliance' to white supremacist patriarchy as the cause of her demise, rather than the general apology inherent in the male gaze for this steady state.
Fucking gross, dude.
Cirsium
(3,384 posts)People are not upset with you for saying that the "agent got pissed and shot her 3 times in the face. Period." You must know that.
Also, the video does not prove that the ICE agent acted out of anger. If anything, he acts cool as a cucumber. Repeatedly saying that the victim made the agent angry is a form of victim blaming.
Your "entire story" that we have a rogue cop who snapped in a moment of anger is a clever way to normalize the event and ignore the context, similar to the "lone wolf" and "mental illness" bs we get from the right wingers when there is a right wing terrorist shooting.
There was no "law enforcement" happening, and the agents have been given carte blanche to break the law. That is the context
NJCher
(42,519 posts)It is not, I repeat, not OK to ascribe motive to another person.
The reason is that you cannot get inside another's head.
If you want to say you think the motive might be anger because of specific body language (or some other such reason), then you can say that but you cannot make that assertion, definitively pronounce the motive as "anger," and then say "end of story." That is not acceptable in argumentation.
John1956PA
(4,839 posts)As an aside, I will suggest that it may not even have been a situation of civil disobedience. I do not know what events led up to her car being parked sideways blocking one lane of travel or how long it had been there. Maybe she turned to travel up the street, saw some action, started making a "K" turn, and then paused to record the action. I do not know if the eventual shooter ordered her to leave. All we know so far about their conversation was that she stated she was not "mad" at him. Maybe he told her to stay where she was so that he could walk around her car to video record it. We will have to wait until further facts are known.
Skittles
(169,640 posts)when did "civil disobedience" become "domestic terrorism"? 
MichMan
(16,657 posts)I doubt Missouri DMV would have a Minneapolis address on file
dpibel
(3,786 posts)Because I'm sure Missouri DMV wouldn't have anything like, you know, a name.
This is a good trick to know. Just keep an out-of-state license plate and no one can find you!
EarlG
(23,387 posts)Edited to add: Reading back, I think I misunderstood your post. You were saying that they wouldn't be able to find her easily, since her car was registered in Missouri. I guess the question is, why would they bother looking for her anyway? These guys are Immigration and Customs Enforcement. They're not traffic cops. All they had to do was drive their cars around her and the situation was over. Why give her plate number to the local police so that they could go round to her house later and give her a ticket? It would be a waste of everyone's time.
Here's the rest of my original post, for the record:
She lived in Minnesota:
Gross, who told Reuters she had "first-hand" knowledge of Good's participation in the ICE-"observer" patrols, said "that's what she was doing" when she was confronted and shot by a federal agent.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/who-was-renee-nicole-good-woman-killed-by-us-immigration-agent-minneapolis-2026-01-08/
And she recently lived in Kansas City:
Good was living in Kansas City as recently as 2023, according to a petition filed in Jackson County Circuit Court to change her last name.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/local/missouri/2026/01/08/renee-nicole-good-missouri/88082670007/
Even if she drove from Missouri to Minnesota that day (which she didn't), it doesn't matter. She was engaging in peaceful civil disobedience, committing at worst a minor traffic offense when ICE instigated the chain of events that led to her murder.
It's not illegal to drive from Missouri to Minneapolis to protest ICE, but the more people are talking about her activism as if simply being an activist is a crime, the more troubled I become. Protesting ICE is not a crime. Following ICE is not a crime. Yes, she committed a minor traffic offense. For that, she was killed, and the overwhelming attitude on the right seems to be that she deserved it because she was an activist.
MichMan
(16,657 posts)My point was that they wouldn't know where she lived in order to later arrest or ticket her. Not justifying anything that happened.
markie
(23,868 posts)would have a name, and not a current address... there are data bases and if needed law enforcement could EASILY find current information on her... that is a certainty (unless she is trying to hide)
I have a Vermont plate on my car but currently am living in Maryland... there is no doubt in my mind that if law enforcement wanted to find me by my car license plate that they could 
MichMan
(16,657 posts)Most states require you to register your vehicle within 60 days after moving there.
Mike Nelson
(10,917 posts)... we didn't shoot people in the head for honking... or even being impolite. That has changed. Be careful DU protesters. Don't stay home in fear and NOT protest... just be extra wary. Safe wishes to all.
moondust
(21,220 posts)Remember that? He slowly walked around her car to photograph her license plate with his phone. That alone was enough to cause him to relax and back off because he now had her ID and they could thus locate and prosecute her if necessary at any time.
mikelewis
(4,583 posts)You let the suspect flee... walk down the street and add on evading arrest. Simple as that.
Especially when you have thier license plate and a passenger.
There's no justification for this whatsoever.
Clearly she aggravated him and he killed her.
That's murder.
Prairie Gates
(7,215 posts)I don't know that they have. They have surely dragged plenty of people out of cars and made other on-the-scene arrests for what they perceive to be impeding (nowadays they even scream out the statute as they do it or threaten it: 18 USC 111). But I have never heard of them coming to somebody's house later and claiming that they impeded.
The current ICE use of 18 USC 111 is to terrorize and attack protestors and documenters, period. Now, it is in fact a countermeasure, because protestors have been very effective in blocking ICE's driving paths and otherwise obstructing them. Thousands of ordinary people have engaged in this form of civil disobedience all over the country.
It's pretty clear that Miller has ordered ICE to be more aggressive against these protest tactics, and this shooting is the result. So I think you're absolutely wrong; this was not a case of "rage." This was an effect of the new policy: be extremely aggressive with car blockades, and shoot if you have to. I have no doubt that that is the order the came down from Miller that led to this homicide. This wasn't rage. It was cold blooded policy-driven murder.
MorbidButterflyTat
(4,202 posts)Pretty bored tonight?
R0ckyRac00n
(116 posts)You put me off, and I dismissed the rest after you wrote after "she was clearly showing her ass." Maybe you're not good at this 'posting' thing.
LuckyCharms
(21,854 posts)and they fucking shot her in the face.
That's what fucking happened.
There's no spin to be put on it.
No angles.
No this, no that.
No questions.
They fucking murdered her in cold blood after scaring her half to death.
All these fucking words, all these opinions, all these motherfucking articles.
They shot her in the face for no reason, and killed her.
lostnfound
(17,414 posts)This former officer’s statements made a lot of sense to me.
https://substack.com/@tomhoefling/note/c-197600374
"As a former officer, let me make something clear: ICE agents ARE NOT police officers, deputy sheriffs, or troopers. They are not local/state law enforcement. They are not federal criminal law enforcement. They have an INCREDIBLY limited scope of authority, and that scope of authority exists in detaining and arresting with probable cause and/or SIGNED WARRANTS those investigated and suspected of being in the US illegally.
"They cannot just pull anyone over for a traffic violation or because their car is in a place they don't want it. They have NO authority to pull people over for ANYTHING other than immigration enforcement- and even then that involves probable cause, such as a known vehicle of someone they have been tracking, or a warrant. On very rare occasions they have the legal authority to pull someone over if they are threatening the lives of others, but that was not happening in this case. They do not have the training nor the authority to pull ANYONE else over. They cannot arrest legal citizens. They cannot detain legal citizens without probable cause to believe they might not be legal. They have ZERO authority to be attempting to force entry into a vehicle- without even identifying themselves, without a warrant, without exigent circumstances such as a life being directly threatened- that is trying to drive down the street without probable cause in relation to IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT.
This ENTIRE situation in Minnesota was outside of the scope of legal authority from the get go. None of it was done within the scope of authority of ICE. Every single behavior those agents made was procedurally incorrect, done without proper authority, and was based off of intimidation and the assumption that people do not understand the law and their rights in regards to interactions with ICE.
"On no planet should an officer, agent, or any human being ever step in front of a car in 'drive' that is actively trying to leave and use their body as a shield to prevent a person from LEGALLY LEAVING a situation in which they are not legally being detained. It takes maybe a week of any kind of actual law enforcement training to understand that under NO CIRCUMSTANCES do you ever place yourself in front of a vehicle in 'drive.' That agent had every single opportunity to simply take two steps to the right and not be standing directly in front of a vehicle attempting to conduct their legal right to drive away.
underpants
(194,996 posts)She was honking while they were down the street.
It doesn’t change the fact that there was no reason she was murdered.
UpInArms
(54,098 posts)It was murder
A traffic violation does not warrant the death penalty
Kali
(56,645 posts)
anciano
(2,196 posts)Sometimes what you want to say is not as important as how you choose to say it.
markie
(23,868 posts)well said
mzmolly
(52,650 posts)ICE should reach out to local police in such instances.
dpibel
(3,786 posts)This video that's got you so happy clearly shows that multiple cars moved through the area during the entire duration.
In your world, "blocking" means "there is space for cars to move through"?
In addition, the video shows that there was a line of ICEmobiles all down the street impeding traffic every bit as much.
MarineCombatEngineer
(17,758 posts)You are trying to defend these ICEholes for the murder of a mother of 3 children.
Shame on you.
Skittles
(169,640 posts)yup
AStern
(695 posts)
tinrobot
(11,955 posts)She may have pissed them off... or not.
But that is NOT a valid reason to shoot, much less kill someone.
NoMoreRepugs
(11,808 posts)mzmolly
(52,650 posts)People in the area can be heard honking and blowing whistles, and about halfway through the video, vehicles start driving down the road, with several going around the SUV.
You are assuming she was honking her horn, which may or may not be the case. Further, she blocked one lane for a time. Pehaps she had car trouble? I've also understood she took a wrong turn down a oneway and was attempting to turn around.
We don't know enough to understand the pretext of her murder. But we do know that she was murdered by a pissed off ICE agent, who had no business shooting her in the head three times.
Attilatheblond
(8,319 posts)Even if there isn't a lot of other vehicles and commotion, icy roads are tricky and often require slow movement and frequently movement different from dry pavement driving.
Couple icy pavement with ICE-capades chaps shouting conflicting orders, school drop off line traffic, and people lawfully exercising their right of public protest and the stress on everybody was abnormal.
Then you throw in a hot head with a history of not being especially prudent around people who don't instantly obey and one gets a shit show. But the shooter is SUPPOSED to be a trained professional and that implies a temperament of being able to handle stress better than most. Obviously that was not the case here.
There have been mentions that Ross had been a LEO prior to going to ICE. Need to verify, but I read he was in Border Patrol. That is an agency known for some officers being, shall we say, sometimes foolishly vigorous and/or quick tempered in how they deal with people. Evidently getting in front of vehicles is not uncommon among officers in BP.
Disclosures:
Icy road driving experience: I lived for many years in Montana.
BP observation experience: I can see Mexico from my home now, and there is ample opportunity to observe, and read about BP behaviors. About half the people I know are brown and they have stories to tell.
And I know an immigration attorney who is very forthcoming with information born of his experience.
moniss
(8,754 posts)vehicle more or less perpendicular to her lane of travel. The other lane was completely open. They could have walked up and calmly told her she had to get her vehicle in line with the traffic. Instead they rushed her while screaming orders at her and trying to yank her from the vehicle. Only bad cops and goons handle a simple traffic stop this way.
Bluetus
(2,316 posts)Last edited Sun Jan 11, 2026, 12:03 AM - Edit history (1)
Please stop repeating that bullshit. " She was actually interfering with law enforcement "
ICE has no law enforcement powers, other than enforcing JUDICIAL warrants related to immigration, and those warrants name specific people. ICE has no arrest powers for things that are not part of the warrants they are enforcing. They are not police. They cannot stop a person for a traffic violation, a parking violation, a bank robbery, a bicycle theft, a domestic dispute, a bar fight, a pickpocket, or anything else not specifically related to the judicial warrants they have in their hands. They have absolutely no enforcement power for any state or local laws. And they have no right to use force except in the case of enforcing a specific warrant.
"Law enforcement" officials have arrest powers for any local, state or federal law. Not ICE.
leftstreet
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Eko
(9,823 posts)At the most a cop would tell her to move and if she didn't she would get a ticket not fucking shot in the face three times!!!!!!!!!
LuckyCharms
(21,854 posts)Who talks like that?
Jesus Christ, have some respect.
FUCK.
leftstreet
(38,873 posts)Such a tell
Cha
(316,893 posts)MorbidButterflyTat
(4,202 posts)MAGAts.
Prairie Gates
(7,215 posts)The casualness of the nasty language is really something else.
Jack Valentino
(4,381 posts)I disagree that "blowing the horn and a whistle" is interfering with law enforcement in any way!
If it 'pissed them off' enough to shoot someone in the face three times,
then they were clearly looking for a reason to be that pissed off!
And this guy, after having been dragged by some other vehicle in the recent past,
CLEARLY should not have been left in the field, so the higher-ups share the blame here...
nilram
(3,473 posts)Thanks for showing your ass! (Whatever that means.)
pnwmom
(110,195 posts)Response to mikelewis (Original post)
MichMan This message was self-deleted by its author.
orangecrush
(28,529 posts)"Fucking bitch"
MorbidButterflyTat
(4,202 posts)Why do people always preface bullshit with a phony apology?
NJCher
(42,519 posts)Oh, you've noticed that, too. 
SamuelTheThird
(603 posts)Anyway this is a bunch of bullshit
Keepthesoulalive
(2,126 posts)Showing your ass was a way of saying you disgraced your family with your actions. The only individual that showed his ass was the gestapo agent, he disgraced the entire country by shooting an unarmed woman and calling her a disgusting name. Your disgraceful action is using that term.
tavernier
(14,277 posts)“She showed her right of civil disobedience,” instead of saying, “She showed her ass.” Civil disobedience means that a citizen is in disagreement with an act that they feel interferes with their rights, and is peacefully protesting that act. Showing her ass means that the woman is being crudely disrespectful and antagonistic. I don’t think anyone believes that that was what Ms. Good was doing.
Goonch
(4,254 posts)
BH liberal
(123 posts)does not change the fact that a conviction on any of them would not have resulted in a death sentence. The shooter needs to be brought up on murder or at least manslaughter charges and face trial. Anything less is a miscarriage of justice. A civil suit should be filed as well. Ross will see his family doxxed, his children will learn what a scum he is, and he will leave a legacy of shame.
gab13by13
(31,263 posts)Orrex
(66,691 posts)But the OP itself is garbage.
MichMan
(16,657 posts)Did you send one?
obamanut2012
(29,183 posts)obamanut2012
(29,183 posts)Cosmocat
(15,350 posts)Whatever she may have done earlier, when THIS group of ICE come up to her vehicle, see was NOT blocking the road.
The vehicle in front of them easily passed in front of her.
AND, there were no "illegals" any where near this area that they were actively attempting to deal with.
All, they had to do was pass her and go on with where ever they were going.
Scrivener7
(58,398 posts)No. Just no. There is no "other side." I know you are simply trying to give an accurate description, but even your attempt to see something else does not provide any mitigation of the horror of this action.
eShirl
(20,089 posts)what the actual fuck, that's insane
Jersey Devil
(10,740 posts)Right now it is circling my toilet because it is a steaming pile of bullshit. 
Kaleva
(40,207 posts)Prairie Gates
(7,215 posts)But the OP was locked out for a personal attack in his responses. Thus, the thread remains open.
The universe intervened here.
Solly Mack
(96,372 posts)aeromanKC
(3,821 posts)We all have seen what ICE does when they rip people from their cars, especially woman.
Aviation Pro
(15,258 posts)Because apparently the RoE for LICE is weapons free.