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(156,152 posts)between us and NATO.
Scary nonetheless.
Ars Longa
(438 posts)TBF
(35,688 posts)when Trump has a complete majority in House & Senate - and has the Supreme Court. You tell me how this is the democrats fault and how (and why) it is their job.
LuckyCharms
(21,869 posts)Dissolve NATO with spinnable deniability as to that was his intent all along.
He's doing Putin's bidding.
FakeNoose
(40,231 posts)Needless to say, no American can sit by and allow this to happen.
LuckyCharms
(21,869 posts)And he's spinning it like it is because of US security interest.
He wants to dissolve NATO because his boss told him to.
And MAGA will hail him as a hero.
orangecrush
(28,542 posts)
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IcyPeas
(24,883 posts)thought crime
(1,239 posts)Beartracks
(14,378 posts)Efilroft Sul
(4,324 posts)RockRaven
(18,740 posts)American voters chose, repeatedly, to destroy the US.
LudwigPastorius
(14,205 posts)Just ask the Germans about the consequences of putting Nazis in charge of your country.
FakeNoose
(40,231 posts)Please don't lump us all together.
Dave says
(5,331 posts)thought crime
(1,239 posts)If a Dem wasn't on the ballot, I'd vote
Green before any Republican...
or not vote if there was only a R.
Bluestocking
(521 posts)Will never vote for anything else.
calimary
(89,060 posts)For me it starts with the GOPs infernal intentions to deny women our rights. To push us back into mere breeder status as our rights are taken away one by one.
Ive always voted Dem.
Dan
(4,987 posts)Trump would be impeached and convicted...
MAGA couldn't stop it - because this type of hurt would impact the "thinking parts" of America.
Fil1957
(547 posts)Olympics and World Cup.
He could give a rat's ass about the other stuff.
thought crime
(1,239 posts)flashman13
(2,049 posts)Feel free to call me naive. The U.S. military will not let Trump destroy NATO. We have spent the last 80 years creating and nurturing NATO as much to shield us as to protect western Europe. The military is made up of a very large number of smart well educated people. They understand the consequences better than anyone. They would refuse to carry out an insane order to attack Greenland and in turn our allies.
I sure as hell don't want to test my theory.
BComplex
(9,751 posts)so far? No. The powers that be are not stopping this, because in America, the supreme court is like the Pope to us: nobody tells their lawlessness to go take a hike, and the republican supremes are the ones allowing ALL of what is happening to us.
flashman13
(2,049 posts)It has all the real guns. The military is always the power behind the throne. Historically, when they withdraw their support, the government falls and flees. We are so far out into uncharted waters anything is possible. I stand by my statement, the U.S. military will not destroy NATO.
thought crime
(1,239 posts)But Trump's threats are already a Military Assault. He is taking Greenland at the point of a gun. Assault with a deadly weapon.
If his "negotiation" fails, the US Military could take over Nuuk in less than an hour. He would then announce that Greenland has been annexed. That's the kind of military action Trump likes.
flashman13
(2,049 posts)The consequences would be catastrophic. See Swede's opening post.
I stand by my statement, the U.S. military will not destroy NATO.
rampartd
(3,856 posts)protects the peace of he who pays them.
flashman13
(2,049 posts)Of course that's a coup which will be staged in defense of the Constitution, NATO and world stability. That is how dangerous Trump is. He doesn't have to nuke the world to crash it. His insatiable thirst for power can crash everything with one intemperate move if the military lets him have his way. We just saw during the Covid pandemic how delicate world stability really is. Also remember it is only American power, coupled with NATO and our Asian allies, that keeps China and Russia from running amok.
I guarantee that if it comes to a choice between Trump's crazy shit or stability under the military, the bankers are going to back the military. I know that sounds beyond crazy. But that is how close we really are to the edge of chaos.
Jarqui
(10,825 posts)If the US economy collapses - the whole world economy collapses. That will topple other governments
Russia and China would have to see this as an opportunity. US bases close, Russia can grab more real estate.
Is Trump going to save Taiwan? He'll have too many other problems.
It would be a very unstable situation. The major military powers in the world may see it as an opportunity to grab countries from the vacuum that was NATO.
Very dangerous situation with Trump itching to fire some nukes at someone.
Swede
(38,398 posts)nt
IronLionZion
(50,838 posts)It would take a long time to rebuild that trust. Like Germany after WW2.
thought crime
(1,239 posts)It is already going to take generation to recover from the damage Trump has caused.
oldmanlynn
(780 posts)We need the entire world shunning Maga. We need to let Europe and these other countries know that this is just a temporary nasty. Spell brought on by Maga Republicans.
SSJVegeta
(2,348 posts)VMA131Marine
(5,173 posts)that even if he understands all the bad things that will happen if he tries to annex Greenland hes likely to still do it anyway.
Mme. Defarge
(8,890 posts)is TACO TIME. . .
aggiesal
(10,545 posts)instead it will be called RedWhite&Blueland.
I'm betting he'll call it the State of Trumpland.
🤣😂🤣
thought crime
(1,239 posts)They may not like their association with Greenland, but if the US takes over they are done.
Beartracks
(14,378 posts)thought crime
(1,239 posts)Hopes Trump provides an perfect example for China to justify a take over of Taiwan "for national security purposes".
Brotherhood_Knight
(1 post)Europe halt all buying of US bonds. Total Sanctions on the US; even join China in a massive sanction plan against the US
Europe needs to take this very seriously. It all needs to be ready to go on the same day Trump tries this.
I am no longer a supporter of the US in any way moving forward after this. Trump will have killed my beloved USA.
LymphocyteLover
(9,385 posts)to make a "deal" with the US. Sounds like some fine MAGA BS but it's truly gross that they are normalizing this fucking bullshit.
NJCher
(42,522 posts)why they wanted to break away from Denmark?
Bluestocking
(521 posts)Rather than impeachment or 25th amendment I think Rump will just die. The repugs will have him terminated permanently.
Bluestocking
(521 posts)It is not like Venezuela, Cuba, Iran or North Korea. Doing nothing would be worse for everyone.
