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The CEO was being "kind" with his words, but I bet he was thinking, "You are out of your fucking mind if you think we want to invest in that shithole you've made!"
I was a professional chauffeur for a few years before Covid and Exxon was one of our clients. They don't play and they are always thinking ahead. I have to say, I was impressed with what he said and the way he said it. He didn't pander to Trump and definitely wasn't intimidated by Trump. He didn't mince words:
"...it's UNINVESTIBLE"!
Trump went into denial mode by getting up to admire his stupid ballroom. No one said a word. They weren't there for the ballroom and none of them cared.
For a narcissist like Trump, it was a huge blow and I'm not surprised he has said he probably won't invite Exxon...blah, blah,blah...
And I'm sure Exxon doesn't give a shit. I would have loved to be a driver that day.😁
NJCher
(42,528 posts)I was sickened and completely disgusted at how trump sat there laying it all out for them about how he was going to have security performed by our army, paid for with billions of our tax dollars. I watched their faces and they were stone cold.
He repeated himself with divvy it up three ways because he got no reaction.
It boggles the mind that he actually hauled people in there on the premise of just bullying another country out of their resources.
Blue_Roses
(13,796 posts)but I'm sure they all knew it would be the sameTrump B.S. They were gracious because they are professional, something he knows nothing about.
I may not agree with the "corporate" world alot of the time, but I do believe in being fair and recognizing when they attempt to try and do the right thing.
Aristus
(71,702 posts)Shit.
He sounds like the not-too-bright leader of a gang of dipshit wanna-be master thieves planning a pathetic, low-stakes caper.
Which tracks, I guess...
BaronChocula
(4,051 posts)according to one former Exxon exec-turned-secretary of state, if memory serves me correctly.
IcyPeas
(24,896 posts)Skip the first 90 seconds
Paladin
(32,316 posts)He was trump's Secretary of State during the first term, for what seemed to be maybe 5 minutes---before he walked away in disgust, christening trump as "a fucking moron."
dalton99a
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UTUSN
(77,023 posts)BlueTsunami2018
(4,875 posts)And they dont give a fuck what he thinks.
Probably a bit of a shock to his ego.
Blue_Roses
(13,796 posts)and I noticed that when Darrin Woods was talking about getting a team to assess, he mentioned Venezuela as the country that needed help getting back on track, not how much they could profit. He made it clear they're not anxious to go back in a 3rd time, but they will help. I noticed that went right over Trump's head.
jfz9580m
(16,603 posts)And all these parasites who work for Big Oil (or for that matter the data as oil parasites).
Trump has never had the effect of making me cheer on an Exxon exec or for that matter forget who the Cheneys are etc.
These are not entities that are truly in conflict. It is pure far right id or far right super ego. Fuck em both.
No offense to you Blue Roses. But I mean Exxon. Fuck those creeps. They are mercenary murderers every bit as much as Trump is a nazi:
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-64241994
ExxonMobil's private research predicted how burning fossil fuels would warm the planet but the company publicly denied the link, they suggest.
The academics analysed data in the company's internal documents.
ExxonMobil denied the allegations.
"This issue has come up several times in recent years and, in each case, our answer is the same: those who talk about how "Exxon Knew" are wrong in their conclusions," the company told BBC News.
Corporations including ExxonMobil have made billions from selling fossil fuels that release emissions that scientists, governments and the UN say cause global warming.
The findings suggest that ExxonMobil's predictions were often more accurate than even world-leading Nasa scientists.
"It really underscores the stark hypocrisy of ExxonMobil leadership, who knew that their own scientists were doing this very high quality modelling work and had access to that privileged information while telling the rest of us that climate models were bunk," Naomi Oreskes, professor of the history of science at Harvard University, told BBC News.
Fuck these mercenary criminals of Big Oil, Big Agra and Big Tech. They are in part why the nazis are on the rise.
Blue_Roses
(13,796 posts)I understand where you are coming from. Working as a chauffeur for their company, I found myself conflicted at times, but it taught me patience and allowed me to see (and hear) that their presentation as a company is different than some of their personal thoughts. It was a lesson in learning how to be professional, whether I agreed or not.And sometimes it was hard not to spout off, especially to those who thought their shit didn't stink. But, as I got more familiar with the job and their protocol it got easier.
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jfz9580m
(16,603 posts)I will tell you a secret - I am not really a person who hates much..Though I disapprove a lot.
One reason I get a bit alarmed is I worry that below a threshold of horribleness, I may end up seeing the humanity of or even becoming friendly with someone with really terrible ideas and then thats just bad for everyone. So i get a little reflexively hey hey..I dont want any of that near me ;-/.. Complicated people with hideous jobs scare me..heh..
Everything is finite beyond basic common sense decency, so the more thoughtfulness someone with terrible ideas gets, the less there is for someone way more worthy of compunction
life huh..
I am more scared of stupidity (as I see it) then outright malice, manipulation, cruelty, callousness, cunning, shallowness, calculation, meretriciousness or hatefulness. The dark triad and shallowness are I think largely unrelatable..
But who isnt sometimes stupid, thoughtless, egotistic, lazy, angry, truculent, pompous or even more shamefully, selfish, self-absorbed, self-centred, vain, complacent, boorish, pushy, inconsiderate - the rolodex of human folly?
Otoh I have no friendly instincts about anyone with truly calculating or dishonest instincts nor people too shallow/stupid in the worst ways/encroaching to see unconscious calculation in their behaviors.
Prejudice and hate confuse me in the average middleclass type I usually see..since I can tell that in Tucker Carlson or Musk it falls into the dark triad category. I cant tell with the normal person where it is ignorance and normal human folly to be expected in this fucked up environment versus the dark trash. Indeed, it is mostly only the cynical Greens universal misanthropy & lack of identification with any human tribe except a vague left and more helpfully, a smattering of education, often that has helped me avoid prejudice.
Sorry..ruminating openly..must check that when not an explicit conflict strategy..I have no use for conniving
though it would be a glaring error/incomplete without adding that.
LetMyPeopleVote
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Strelnikov_
(8,115 posts)in TrumpCoin
Maru Kitteh
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Strelnikov_
(8,115 posts)Bunch of ships running around, but no meaningful (any other than SpecOps?) ground presence.
State just told everyone to bug out, like boy-howdy quick, cause the shit has hit the fan that even Lawyers, Guns and Money can't fix.
Probably going to throw his backing to Machado, which will just accelerate the Civil War.
Without a Iraq level occupation, in a jungle country (cover out the wazoo), and a number of years of 'pacification', probably still won't be calm enough to build shit that blows up real good just on it's own.
Oil CEO's see another Iraq, only with less profitable petroleum, if it can ever be extracted.
Blue_Roses
(13,796 posts)to ask them to put 100 billion ( I think that's right?) into the pot that is suppose to just "fix" everything, is so audacious of Trump---but I'm not surprised.
ProfessorGAC
(75,870 posts)...that he understands nothing about how business works.
His whole business model was based on conning gullible bankers into lending him mord money based on inflated values.
That's not how big business works.
He clearly doesn't know that.
JI7
(93,254 posts)If it threatens their business. They can easily pay some bribe but what Trump wants is for others to do all they can to get the profits and give him total access and control to that.
Blue_Roses
(13,796 posts)happen this time. And even if it was a "fleeting " moment, it was so refreshing to see.
mucholderthandirt
(1,754 posts)I mean, it's obvious to anyone who looks that Trump has been crazy and capricious for decades, they had to know about his Epstein stuff (probably half of them are in those lists!). Trump never hid what he intended.
So now it's going to cost them so they don't like him? Boo frickin' hoo. Need to pull up those big boy pants and do what's right, but they won't. Too many promises of more tax breaks.