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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDems MUST shutdown government to deal with ICE
The only power Dems have left is to shutdown government until ICE and war powers are brought back under control. Otherwise, Dems are useless.
leftstreet
(38,930 posts)SSJVegeta
(2,377 posts)they do a set of 50 pushups and have a Masters in Latin American Studies.
SSJVegeta
(2,377 posts)mr715
(2,802 posts)no prior convictions, a robust background check, drug screenings, and a psych eval.
None of this DEI shit, just hire people that meet the requirements.
SSJVegeta
(2,377 posts)mr715
(2,802 posts)You are in the minority - you are not obligated to govern.
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ananda
(34,488 posts)Just do it, Dems!
tritsofme
(19,809 posts)Eddie Haskell 60
(41 posts)Shutdown is to wake the American people up. Let them know some powers such as tariffs and war powers must return to Congress as required by the Constitution.
tritsofme
(19,809 posts)Another thing Republicans dont care about.
The government being shutdown isnt a failure for them, its a victory in itself.
Cha
(317,061 posts)Food Assistance like last time.
TY for bringing up the Fed Workers.
maspaha
(710 posts)but, its at least a symbolic fight. Courage is contagious!
PatrickforB
(15,350 posts)They need to be opposed just like Rove, Cheney and Rumsfeld made it so the GOP opposed all we tried to do in lockstep. Every time we ever try to do some bipartisan thing, they don't agree unless they get their way anyway.
Over the last 30 years our political dialog has moved so far to the right, by design, that a centrist position in 2025 would be considered reactionary back in 1970 or even 1980. We have to STOP these people before it is too late and that window is closing rapidly. Time to grind everything to a halt and just stop it all until some concessions can be wrung from these corrupt politicians and their billionaire/Wall Street greed-lizard owners.
orangecrush
(28,661 posts)tritsofme
(19,809 posts)mysteryowl
(8,153 posts)Please remember you are a democrat and the people need you to step up!
ChicagoTeamster
(456 posts)maxsolomon
(38,243 posts)You're Whistin' Dixie, EH60
drray23
(8,595 posts)Last shutdown, ICE was considered essential and still paid.
The GOP will not cave, they are perfectly happy to let the economy crash and people lose jobs while they keep paying their goons and spreading mayhem.
Most of the stuff the government is doing now is widly unpopular, yet they don't care and do it. Why would a shutdown pressure the gop ?
The Grand Illuminist
(2,009 posts)nt
ancianita
(42,960 posts)And that's what the felon wants ahead of the midterms, to claim that he's the only one who can "fix" blue states.
Bayard
(28,692 posts)I don't think the country is ready for Shutdown II. They would probably really blame Dems this time, as some probably haven't recovered financially yet from the last one.
Come up with another way to make the point.
Cha
(317,061 posts)Midterms..
W_HAMILTON
(10,105 posts)ancianita
(42,960 posts)Enforcement & Removals: Arrests, raids, and deportations continue as normal.
Detention Operations: The system for detaining immigrants remains active.
SEVP: The program that manages international students (F-1/M-1) is funded by fees and stays open.
What Slows Down/Stops (Immigration System):
Immigration Courts (EOIR): Hearings for non-detained individuals often get postponed, creating backlogs, even if courts technically stay open.
E-Verify: The system for employers to verify work eligibility can be temporarily unavailable, suspending deadlines for new cases.
USCIS (Sometimes): While fee-funded USCIS generally stays open, processing of some non-fee-based immigration petitions can pause.
In essence, ICE's core mission of enforcement carries on, but the court system that processes cases gets backed up, leading to uncertainty for many immigrants.
You're seeing this all wrong.
relayerbob
(7,373 posts)And Trump doesnt care about laws so hw wont shut down ICE.
What is required a general nationwide strike.
Samael13
(129 posts)Let's remember what happened last time all that was accomplished was making average Americans hurt. Do you think everyday Americans are gonna accept that again they'd turn on democrats
obnoxiousdrunk
(3,110 posts)The last shutdown worked so well.
sarisataka
(22,247 posts)What makes you think another one would be any more effective?