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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI'm telling ya folks, this country is headed towards an armed confrontation with these ICEholes,
I'm sad to say that I never thought I would see this in the America I served for, but, yet, because of Trumpedo, MAGAt's, spineless Repig Congress critters, here we are.
I'm usually the type of guy who views the world as a glass 1/2 full, but now, sad to say, my views have changed for, IMHO, the worst, my view on the US and the world in general, is now 1/2 empty.
I hope I'm wrong because, what I see right effing now, is armed conflict and it ain't gonna be pretty, and for those MAGAt's and ICEholes out there monitoring our posts, in no way am I advocating for this, quite the opposite, I don't want an armed uprising, I want sanity to return to The Constitution of the United States and the BoR.
It's tragically sad what's happening to our beloved Democracy by a minority of lunatics.
Just my rant for the night and I bid thee well a good night.
Mister Ed
(6,828 posts)Resist it. Remain strong, remain determined, but remain peaceful.
LuckyCharms
(21,956 posts)It's not something I want, but it's coming.
mzmolly
(52,660 posts)and ICE will GTFO or be removed from their hotels/federal buildings by the National Guard.
Deuxcents
(25,590 posts)That were entering and to get ready. I dont know anyone who could have even thought this before but when I read it, Im reminded of the 1930s in Europe and dont want to personally experience that.
fujiyamasan
(1,253 posts)Of course its not the same, but too close for comfort.
Even the economy has eerie echoes. Prewar Berlin was similarly filled mostly with people that were blissfully unaware about what was happening around them and the true nature of the evil that was gunning for power and would later transpire.
We see it now. Restaurants are still filled up everywhere we see. The stock market is roaring. People are uneasy about their jobs but unemployment still is relatively low so it makes people blase and complacent. Even with incomplete data and numbers that are suspect, there are clear signals that people are in for a rude awakening, but I see a lot of giant egos performing jobs that tech giants are working to eliminate, and will likely be soon enough. Remember, in capitalism youre not awarded to the best of your abilities, its whether it builds shareholder wealth.
Its barely been one year since hes been back in power.
róisín_dubh
(12,234 posts)Everywhere looks like a war zone. I was just in Turkiye for a few weeks and joked with a guide that Americans think Türkiye is dangerous, but kids dont get shot in school. Of course they expect their government to be repressive, but weve never had to worry much about this-except for institutionalised racism that still exists. But we dont expect the federal government to seriously trample us like other countries fear.
Then I visit the US to see family and Holy Heads-in-the-sand Batman! Its like everything and nothing is wrong. I hate visiting to be honest. Its like a total mindfuck
sop
(17,552 posts)TommyT139
(2,154 posts)...which is to right the elections and ignore blue wins.
At least then both sides will know that the nation is at war.
Arthur_Frain
(2,268 posts)Im glad theyre not currently operating here in my neck of the woods. I dont get passionate about much, and I dont think of myself as one of those hero guys. But if I saw some masked fuckwit doing what all, I might make a really unwise decision.
Im not a rash individual but I cant take much more of this, the protests Ive attended here are milquetoast worth less than sewage runoff events. Its going to take a black eye on one side or the other, but Im afraid there are too many on their side who think we are just going to roll over and take it.
Sorry, Im not. I couldnt in 4th grade when the school bully tried to put me in my place, and I sure as shit cant now.
duckworth969
(1,225 posts)Too many MAGAS think were weak and that we wont fight back.
Not so.
Be in for a surprise after a few get pasted upside the head.
Bullies get my blood up 😡
biocube
(177 posts)We're not like the Ed Bundy types that will point guns at the feds.
Hassin Bin Sober
(27,390 posts)We already know they are among the ranks.
What if he pools them in one spot. They love their bear spray and violence.
It could get really ugly
We need that list of ice employees
duckworth969
(1,225 posts)https://web.archive.org/web/20260113193603/https://icelist.is/names-and-faces/
The first link is much more comprehensive. But the second link has more face shots in one place.
I was really surprised to see all the Latino surnames. More women than you might think too.
KS Toronado
(23,100 posts)so he can declare Martial law and call elections off. As difficult as it's going to be, stay PEACEFUL in
the face of their anger.
LexVegas
(6,954 posts)Takket
(23,500 posts)to give drumpf justification for declaring martial law.
He wants a pile of ICE corpses.
The Madcap
(1,766 posts)Clutching an automatic weapon and get their just reward.
It's only a matter of time.
berkerly6240
(113 posts)MarineCombatEngineer
(17,776 posts)there is more and more resistance to this illegal regime, but, hey, keep on with the negative views of the general American electorate.
artemisia1
(1,430 posts)the good will prevail. Not through violence, MAGA wants this so bad they can taste it, but through civic action and civil disobedience.
sakabatou
(45,797 posts)An ICE-hole will actually be shot/murdered. To me, it's only a matter of time.
IronLionZion
(50,846 posts)but it seems like many NRA members might be wearing ICE uniforms these days.
leftstreet
(38,930 posts)aeromanKC
(3,830 posts)BidenRocks
(2,811 posts)The enemy is ICE, chumps private army, answerable to him, not the Constitution.
I am watching the raids in Minnesota right now. Flash bangs and projectiles are fired.
If all the armed citizens came out, they would be fucked.
(Battle of New Orleans - Johnny Horton)
Figarosmom
(9,862 posts)What's happening isn't right.
If not, now that ICE are going door yo door they are bound to go to doors with MAGA on the other side. ICE is who they are do I'm sure they would treat them the same as they do snyone else. They won't believe people when the say they are trump supporters or not care. They have already grabbed and deported MAGAs. I'm hoping that makes a difference. Otherwise I think you are right.
But it could be a MAGA gun nut or militia type that barricades themselves in and starts shooting
Tree Lady
(13,027 posts)To live and he doesnt care about anyone but himself so if he has to go he will make sure we all go with him.
I am same type of person normally, positive side but watching this past year and no one stopping Trump in the whole world we are headed for a war of some kind like it or not.
Peaceful protests as fun as they are wont do anything because the other side simply does not care.
When I heard Trump said fuck you at a factory and gave the finger, I never ever thought in my lifetime any president would do such a thing. Sure I knew all of them both sides said shit about each other in private but never in public. This tells me they will do anything.
flashman13
(2,066 posts)You have these large groups of mostly poorly trained wannna be tough guys, heavily armed with full auto weapons, facing off with large crowds of very vocal protesters. It doesn't matter how it starts. Someone on either side fires off a round. Or just a large fire cracker pops. Then one of the ICE toughs pulls the trigger. And then it's what my old man use to call buck fever sets in. They all start firing until they run out of ammunition. We've all seen it with police shootings. Everyone of those weapons has a 30 round magazine. I will just let you imagine what the carnage will look like. And it will all be videoed and broadcast to the world live in real time.
There will be no way the MAGAts can spin that. I'm not sure what the reaction will be. People will certainly be horrified. It might trigger further violence. Trump could blame the protesters and declare martial law. Or those that have the power to stop all this might find sufficient courage to rise up in righteous anger to disband ICE and the rest of these paramilitaries and prosecute all of the guilty parties. I would hope for the latter.
I'm with MCE. I don't want to see anything like this happen. But right now I feel like it's close to inevitable.
AntiFascist
(13,736 posts)where is the National Guard that Gov. Walz was ready to mobilize? Perhaps other blue states need to do the same as push back. The local police in Minneapolis are far outnumbered by ICE agents at this point.
RainCaster
(13,390 posts)Just uses them to keep all those Trumpian Thugs in their hotels.
mackdaddy
(1,948 posts)A few hundred Republicans in Congress, Six in the Supreme court, and a few dozen in the White-house are ordering and controlling this.
This has to be taken there to get a solution.
H2O Man
(78,679 posts)That would be insane .... as if people accepted the battlefied that Stephen Miller demands, and willingly giving up the power of Dr. King.