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"The immigration agents in this account are effectively operating as something like federally sanctioned highwaymenthey might as well be privateers in tactical vests and masks"By Jim Vorel | January 14, 2026 | 11:38am
In late October, a Houston-area 10th grader, 16-year-old U.S. citizen Arnoldo Bazan, watched his father tackled, choked and arrested in public by immigration officials who the teenager said refused to identify themselves and wore no official uniforms or insignia. Arnoldo Bazan was treated much the same: Put into a banned chokehold by whoever these purported law enforcement figures were supposed to be, he was beaten and choked, and had his phone confiscated, despite his pleas that he was underage and a citizen. His treatment at the hands of agents was later justified by professional murder-rationalizer and DHS spokesperson Tricia McLaughlin, who claimed that he had assaulted officers during the arrest by hitting one with an elbow, capping her statement with the following, incredibly smug flourish: The federal law enforcement officer graciously chose not to press charges.
This story is of course heinous in and of itself, but also typical to the experience of countless Americans who have had their families torn apart by the immigration enforcement campaign of DHS and ICE. If you asked Arnoldo Bazan, then surely he would cite the loss of his father Arnulfo Bazan Carrillo that day in October (he was eventually deported to Mexico) as the most important and gutting detail of the encounter. But when the 16-year-olds case resurfaced this week in the context of a ProPublica deep dive into the widespread use of banned chokeholds by immigration agents, there was another detail that stood out as particularly galling in its sheer disregard for the idea that agents might face any kinds of consequences: The fact that the ICE agents in question allegedly sold Arnoldo Bazans confiscated phone for cash, potentially on the very same day that they took it from him.
In the midst of ProPublicas investigation and interviews with Arnoldo, the teen explained that he had filmed much of the incident between the ICE agents and his father, who had been driving him to high school when they stopped at a McDonalds for breakfast. There, federal agents swarmed the Bazans vehicle, causing them to flee. The two fled on foot into a restaurant supply store, where agents tackled them and began to choke both. This portion of the incident was partially captured on video by bystanders, and Arnoldo Bazan can be heard pleading and crying as officers constrict his throat, hoarsely saying Im underage and I was going to school! He later described the scenario as feeling like I was going to pass out and die. Its little wonder he gave not much thought to his phone at the time, but after being returned to his home hours later, he used the Find My tool to locate where it had ended upat a vending machine for used electronics miles away, close to an ICE detention center, according to ProPublica. Seemingly, he was able to somehow visit this location and retrieve the phonethe publication said it had later seen the footage, which backed the familys account of the chase.
Just consider, for a moment, the thought process of the immigration agents making this kind of decision. You detain a man under the suspicion of being an illegal immigrant, and brutalize both him and his teenage son who is on his way to high school. You take the phone that the kid is using to record the experienceprior to when you start choking him, that is. One would expect there to be some kind of lip service here about how the phone was being taken for evidence or investigation, or in greater likelihood the thought that perhaps it can be wiped of any incriminating evidence. Nevertheless, if a federal agent takes your phone from you, do you not expect for them to hang onto it in some kind of official capacity? Maybe to even return your property to you afterward, if youre really lucky? One thing Im pretty certain isnt in the operations manual: Bringing your phone to a kiosk, to sell for cash, and then pocketing the modest payday.
https://www.jezebel.com/ice-immigration-phone-theft-sold-arnoldo-bazan-houston-chokeholds-private-property
Bayard
(28,718 posts)Notice they don't ask either father or son for ID. No Miranda rights either--seems to be long since gone in this terrorism age.
CanonRay
(15,974 posts)dalton99a
(92,322 posts)leftstreet
(38,959 posts)dalton99a
(92,322 posts)leftstreet
(38,959 posts)No Governor, Mayor, Attorney General, Sec of State. No state assemblies
How sad
orangecrush
(28,695 posts)Initech
(107,576 posts)Wicked Blue
(8,488 posts)you get crimes.
Initech
(107,576 posts)Fuck ICE. Fuck Kristi Noem.
progressoid
(52,630 posts)orangecrush
(28,695 posts)malaise
(293,125 posts)Donvicts goons.
That is all
GiqueCee
(3,456 posts)... has everyone forgotten that Civil Asset Forfeiture is a real thing? It is also a blatant violation of the 4th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States. Law enforcement has NO right to confiscate personal property with no warrant ever being sought, or charges ever being brought, and absent any conviction of a crime. And then they refuse to return it without prohibitively costly "legal" procedures that often exceed the value of the property that was seized. The police forces usually turn stolen property into cash, and make no mistake, it IS stolen property.
Civil Asset Forfeiture has no right to exist; it is irrefutably unconstitutional.
Martin Eden
(15,382 posts)... who claimed that 16 year-old Arnoldo Bazan had assaulted officers during the arrest by hitting one with an elbow, capping her statement with the following, incredibly smug flourish: The federal law enforcement officer graciously chose not to press charges.
1. Can you describe the injury sustained by the officer Arnoldo Bazan allegedly struck with his elbow?
2. What medical treatment did the officer receive for his injury?
3. Given that this 16 year-old US citizen was beaten, choked, and robbed of his cell phone, shouldn't he be the one pressing charges?
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obamanut2012
(29,198 posts)Smearing a dead woman and her wosiw.
MIRT
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sarisataka
(22,253 posts)Gone.