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Dear Jonas, the president wrote to Norways prime minister, Jonas Gahr Støre.
Considering your Country decided not to give me the Nobel Peace Prize for having stopped 8 Wars PLUS, I no longer feel an obligation to think purely of Peace, although it will always be predominant, but can now think about what is good and proper for the United States of America. Denmark cannot protect that land from Russia or China, and why do they have a right of ownership anyway? There are no written documents, its only that a boat landed there hundreds of years ago, but we had boats landing there, also. I have done more for NATO than any other person since its founding, and now, NATO should do something for the United States. The World is not secure unless we have Complete and Total Control of Greenland. Thank you! President DJT.
Even by Trumps standards, this letter is so delusional and dangerous that there is no longer any question that the president is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, as laid out in the 25th Amendment to the Constitution.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/donald-trumps-appalling-threat-leaves-no-doubt-its-time-for-the-25th-amendment/
malaise
(293,279 posts)Re
maliaSmith
(150 posts)Norway is the country that awards the Nobel, Donnie, not Denmark. JFC you are the most ignorant bat shit crazy president ever.
C_U_L8R
(48,978 posts)Its not his fault, its yours.
keep_left
(3,173 posts)...the all-time favorite con of abusers. DARVO = deny, attack, reverse victim and offender.
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/DARVO
Irish_Dem
(80,110 posts)It is on WE THE PEOPLE now.
Miles Archer
(21,924 posts)It's whistling past the graveyard time.
We know things WILL get worse, because they HAVE gotten worse...steadily...since Trump began his second term.
No one wants to upset Trump voters. No Republican wants Trump to tweet mean things about them or threaten them with a primary challenger.
Irish_Dem
(80,110 posts)As Michelle Obama said, crisis reveals character.
Biophilic
(6,430 posts)Its part of our dilemma, we arent sure what our country is anymore.
Irish_Dem
(80,110 posts)Biophilic
(6,430 posts)Irish_Dem
(80,110 posts)Rule of law.
Bill of Rights.
US constitution.
Checks and balances.
Three branches of government.
Free and fair elections.
US military works for the people.
This list goes on and on.
They were all lies.
None of it is true.
Biophilic
(6,430 posts)Hard to know where to stand when what we were told we stood on turns out to be untrue.
Instead of standing on bedrock principles we find ourselves drowning in a swamp.
LuvLoogie
(8,556 posts)misanthrope
(9,394 posts)But Americans were so hyper-focused on race that they refused to acknowledge the realities of privilege. As always.
Lokee11
(397 posts)✊!
misanthrope
(9,394 posts)I was born the year the Civil Rights Act was ratified. That means I grew up in the immediate post-Jim Crow South, where the law changed but the attitudes didn't. I have been surrounded by people who yearned for a romanticized oligarchy, a feudal system built atop human captivity, bloody torture and widespread misery for all but the very top of the social scale.
I have had no illusions how awful many people are inside. I've heard them voice it all my life.
You write like all Americans have no courage or moral code. We who didn't and would never vote for Trump and his actions have a strong moral code and courage. You offend me by insinuating we're all alike.
malthaussen
(18,431 posts)When you brag that you "never boast or brag," you're obviously full of shit.
-- Mal
sop
(17,628 posts)Miles Archer
(21,924 posts)Once you get started with a Trump voter, it's hard to "gracefully exit" the conversation. They believe what they want to believe, and Trump being Jesus...or maybe a bigger and better version of Jesus...is what they've chosen to believe.
thomski64
(854 posts)Fuck each and every one..
peggysue2
(12,414 posts)It's the malevolent group of Heritage Foundation 'intellectuals,' malcontents, Neo-Nazis, white supremacists, Christian nationalists and billionaire greed heads who knew their ideas and policies were unpopular, losers at the ballot box if fully exposed.
What to do?
Overturn a 250-year old Constitutional Republic and replace it with their idea of Nirvana--an autocratic state that imposes its will and total control on the American public, minority rule. Now, they're in the process of reshaping the country in their own image, one based on hate, grievance, greed, extortion and violence.
Any push back? They're quite willing to crack heads, open detention/concentration/reeducation camps, send in the militias (ICE), even the US military to seal the deal. This is the fight we're engaged in.
This movement has had time to plan, organize, set the pieces into motion. The whole enterprise is based on lies and hyperbole. Kevin Roberts said the quiet part out loud:
We are in the midst of a second American Revolution, bloodless if the Left allows it.
Roberts was shutdown before the 2024 election because revealing the intention of these weasels was the last thing they wanted.
And here we are. Fighting for our lives.
W_HAMILTON
(10,114 posts)Hence why people are focusing on the midterms, where we can elect Democrats and give them the power to "make waves."
overleft
(403 posts)Bengus81
(9,873 posts)He said that the other day too................
yellow dahlia
(4,756 posts)We will not stop standing up.
sop
(17,628 posts)Trump is clearly insane: "Why do they have a right of ownership anyway? There are no written documents, its only that a boat landed there hundreds of years ago, but we had boats landing there, also."
underpants
(195,200 posts)Link to tweet
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Treaty of the Danish West Indies
Ratification: The treaty was ratified by Denmark in December 1916 and by the U.S. in January 1917.
During 1916, the two sides agreed to a sale price of $25,000,000, and the United States accepted a Danish demand for a declaration stating that they would "not object to the Danish Government extending their political and economic interests to the whole of Greenland".[12][18] Although it had a claim on northern Greenland based on explorations by Charles Francis Hall[19] and Robert Peary, the United States decided that the purchase was more important, especially because of the nearby Panama Canal.[
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_the_Danish_West_Indies
Justice matters.
(9,462 posts)even if by some miracle he would know, he doesn't respect his own contracts anyway.
Like he cares.
Farmer-Rick
(12,514 posts)Does the insane pedo think he can rule over those people like the were serfs being sold with the land?
How does his broken brain account for the people there? Does he see them as a bunch of children to sexually abuse? Does he see them as silent accessories to acquire? Does he expect them to willingly join the kingdom of Trump? Does he expect to kill off everyone in Greenland so he can turn it over to Putin?
Denmark doesn't really "own" Greenland. The people of Greenland have agreed to be part of Denmark. If they don't want to be serfs to a pedophile mad man, they don't have to be, no matter what weapons the pedo throws at them.
rampartd
(3,941 posts)onenote
(46,005 posts)And no one realistically thinks that the Senate would convict, even if the House voted articles of impeachment.
The Madcap
(1,787 posts)Let him stand in the front of the boat a la George Washington as it sails toward the Greenland shore. In the dead of winter.
I am so sick of his insanity. He needs to be in a rubber room.
LymphocyteLover
(9,424 posts)I imagine they will just ignore this or some how make excuses for it
Kid Berwyn
(23,250 posts)One can only imagine whats happening to his essence.
displacedvermoter
(4,180 posts)His precious bodily fluids are poisoned and diseased.
Kid Berwyn
(23,250 posts)Like a sad saga for a Sad Sack.
displacedvermoter
(4,180 posts)is from the IV antibiotics and steroids being used to battle, unsuccessfully, against syphilis.
Blues Heron
(8,446 posts)Dave Bowman
(6,768 posts)Blues Heron
(8,446 posts)MissHoneychurch
(33,615 posts)that this letter is real and not satire. How in the world can Trumplstilzchen write such a letter and not feel ashamed in the slightest. I'd say his "morale compass" is nowhere near reality.
Please, I want to wake up from this nightmare.
rubbersole
(11,020 posts)He had help from one of pootie's assets. Tulsi? Lindsey?
radical noodle
(10,493 posts)He's a bully just like Trump, only he can spell.
dalton99a
(92,388 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(175,522 posts)trump is mentally ill
Link to tweet
The letter reportedly ties Norways Nobel Peace Prize decision to Greenland, questions Denmarks right of ownership, and declares the world isnt secure unless the U.S. has Complete and Total Control of Greenland.
PBSs Nick Schifrin reported the text was obtained from multiple officials and circulated by NSC staff to European ambassadors.
It reads like a meme.
Its not.

Here is another version

Ocelot II
(129,374 posts)Schlesinger was Nixon's Secretary of Defense who told the Joint Chiefs and Kissinger to notify him if Nixon lost his shit and ordered a nuclear strike. Trump's minions just do his bidding - somebody had to have typed and sent that letter since Trump wouldn't have done it with his tiny stubby fingers.Can you imagine what other crazy shit the minions have to do?
vapor2
(3,889 posts)They run amok and just tell him what to say and do. When he says he doesn't know something or someone I believe he really doesn't
Ocelot II
(129,374 posts)I wonder if hes really as illiterate as Trump or just pretending to be so people will think the message is Trumps.
rickford66
(6,049 posts)0rganism
(25,484 posts)First off, who is this "we", kemosabe?
Ocelot II
(129,374 posts)Farmer-Rick
(12,514 posts)Pedo Trump or his relatives wouldn't be involved. His relatives were living in Germany at that time. So is he saying his German relatives were landing boats in Greenland?
Wednesdays
(21,673 posts)But the British never landed on Greenland. Eighteenth century British ships in that area were interested only in whaling and searching for the Northwest Passage.
samsingh
(18,261 posts)how petty, unpresidential, - isn't this extortion - , and desperate
ZDU
(1,123 posts)Power down. Flip the switch. Pull the plug. Shut it off.
Attilatheblond
(8,376 posts)but it is WELL past time to 25th the mofo. If the cabinet and vp won't do it, impeach, convict, and remove the insane man before he lights the fuse that blows EVERYTHING up.
Lonestarblue
(13,257 posts)I cant even think of one. The closest is the ceasefire in Gaza that is actually a total sham. Israel violates it every day with continued murders of Palestinians, including the use of drone attacks on refugees in tents with no protection. He certainly didnt stop Russias illegal war in Ukraine. He had nothing to do with stopping war in Syria. Hes done nothing in Sudan or Yemen or any other place in Africa.
What can he be referring to in his fevered little brain!
surfered
(11,859 posts)Ocelot II
(129,374 posts)who told him, "100 kilometers from my border to the north is the world's largest nuclear arsenal. It is not aimed at me, Mr. President, but at you." https://www.aftenposten.no/norge/i/L4nxJx/stoere-om-trumps-straffetoll-det-er-uakseptabelt-det-maa-vi-si-klart-fra-om
mountain grammy
(28,733 posts)The sentence you posted sure got my attention.
trump thinks Putin is his best buddy.
Ocelot II
(129,374 posts)"It is new that we within the NATO alliance have a country that claims territory from another country. And do not rule out that it will happen with military force. What happened this weekend is also new, that Trump is coming up with punitive tariffs as a political tool against seven countries that have sent military personnel to Greenland as part of NATO's work and planning for security in the Arctic
There were two colonels from the Armed Forces' operational headquarters in Bodø who went [to Greenland] with colleagues to plan. Trump comments on this as a threat to world peace. He is imposing a 10 percent tariff on Norway and the other countries from February 1, it is said, and an increase later this year if he does not get Greenland. This is unacceptable. We must say that clearly. Norway supports the Kingdom of Denmark, and Greenland is part of the Kingdom of Denmark. It is up to the Danes and Greenlanders to decide the future of Greenland.
Over the past year, the seven countries in NATO have been working on an Arctic strategy that the other NATO countries have nodded to. They have also nodded to the fact that these militaries are going up to map out possible planning. So has the United States. That is necessary to say. As I told President Trump the first time I met him: 100 kilometers from my border to the north is the world's largest nuclear arsenal. It is not aimed at me, Mr. President, but at you.
We will work to ensure that tariffs do not come. It has happened before that Trump has announced tariffs that will not come. We are at work for you, and we will work to ensure that this does not happen."
dem4decades
(13,758 posts)We thought he was crazy when it was only Canada he wanted, now it's the entire world, why stop there, Donald Trump Master of the Universe.
Justice matters.
(9,462 posts)crafting more nukes than both Russia and the US COMBINED in the next 10 years, as well as creating an army of a hundred million foot soldiers.
21st Century schizoid men will kill life on this little planet for endless personal greed...
underpants
(195,200 posts)Treaty of the Danish West Indies
Ratification: The treaty was ratified by Denmark in December 1916 and by the U.S. in January 1917.
During 1916, the two sides agreed to a sale price of $25,000,000, and the United States accepted a Danish demand for a declaration stating that they would "not object to the Danish Government extending their political and economic interests to the whole of Greenland".[12][18] Although it had a claim on northern Greenland based on explorations by Charles Francis Hall[19] and Robert Peary, the United States decided that the purchase was more important, especially because of the nearby Panama Canal.[
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_the_Danish_West_Indies
catbyte
(38,708 posts)
Dan
(5,004 posts)WestMichRad
(2,993 posts)The Onion isnt nearly that unhinged from reality.
dweller
(27,923 posts)He sent them a beautiful letter.
But to no avail
so he has no choice but to take what is rightfully his
He. Has . To . Go !
✌🏻
Ol Janx Spirit
(769 posts)...Norwegian Nobel Committee? Yes, it is comprised of Norwegian nationals selected by the Storting (the Norwegian parliament,) but it is a private body tasked with awarding a private prize on behalf of Swedish industrialist Alfred Nobel's estate. It does not actually represent the Norwegian government.
I guess it does not matter either way...
But the 25th Amendment is seriously DOA unless the president is truly incapacitated to the extent that he can't write a letter on his behalf--and even then I'm sure Stephen Miller would write it and take it to the SCOTUS...and probably win.
It is DOA otherwise because it is even harder for Congress to pass a 25th Amendment vote than it is to impeach a president. This is because IF the cabinet invokes it and then the president writes a letter saying he isn't in fact incapacitated, the 25th Amendment requires Congress to determine "by two-thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office."
Impeachment only requires a simple majority in the House--but then a two-thirds majority in the Senate.
It is far more likely that nature will bail us out than that Congress will ever have a full two-thirds of both Houses (357 members out of 535 total) agree to do what is right.
Botany
(76,495 posts)However you think that Trump and company care about facts?
Ol Janx Spirit
(769 posts)...aren't aware of them and are able to judge your character and intelligence based on your grasp of them.
Facts often do not get the credit they are due, but they still underpin our entire system of government and justice, and most people live their life that way regardless of their political "feelings."
If facts did not matter at all they would have released the Epstein files long ago.
I think there are some facts they do care very deeply about keeping hidden....
Botany
(76,495 posts)Example in Germany in 1862 it was shown that the more CO2 in a body of gas the more heat
that body of gas will hold. Not once has it been shown to be wrong and is one of the universal
gas laws but still we hear idiots still talking about the climate change debate.
No wonder they want to get rid of the Department of Education, NPR/PBS, and scientific review.
Just let the fossil fuel industries sell their narrative.
Ol Janx Spirit
(769 posts)We all have our own complicated relationship with the facts surrounding our lives and the world we live in.
It is fascinating how many people allow corporations, politicians, religious leaders, and other people that do not have their best interests at heart to shape what things they believe are facts and what things they believe are fake.
RedWhiteBlueIsRacist
(1,920 posts)When he had his mysterious ear bleed at Butler Pa, he didn't yell Peace, Peace, Peace!
AllaN01Bear
(28,686 posts)samnsara
(18,738 posts)we have to keep reminding the world that this is TRUMP and not America...that we are being held hostage too and that trump is not American and does not represent America. Are there any Canadians on DU?
Oliver Bolliver Butt
(136 posts)Jimvanhise
(569 posts)They should tell Trump that shutting down USAID to poor countries has reportedly resulted in the deaths of 60,000 people. That will be Trump's legacy throughout the world. Not peace, but misery is what Trump stands for.
William Seger
(12,241 posts)... said Karoline Leavitt, explaining that he was just joking.
LetMyPeopleVote
(175,522 posts)I no longer feel an obligation to think purely of Peace, the president said in a truly bizarre text message to Norway's prime minister.
In case there were any doubts, that utterly bonkers message Trump sent to the Norwegian prime minister? Itâs entirely real.
— Steve Benen (@stevebenen.com) 2026-01-19T15:39:53.345Z
He effectively argued, in writing, that his crusade for Greenland is partly the result of the Nobel committee hurting his feelings. #madking www.ms.now/rachel-maddo...
https://www.ms.now/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/trump-connects-his-greenland-crusade-to-his-failure-to-win-a-nobel-peace-prize
The message, first published by PBS, read in its entirety:
Dear Jonas: Considering your Country decided not to give me the Nobel Peace Prize for having stopped 8 Wars PLUS, I no longer feel an obligation to think purely of Peace, although it will always be predominant, but can now think about what is good and proper for the United States of America. Denmark cannot protect that land from Russia or China, and why do they have a right of ownership anyway? There are no written documents, its only that a boat landed there hundreds of years ago, but we had boats landing there, also. I have done more for NATO than any other person since its founding, and now, NATO should do something for the United States. The World is not secure unless we have Complete and Total Control of Greenland. Thank you! President DJT
....For now, lets not dwell on the fact that Trumps message was filled with several factual errors (he has not, for example, stopped eight wars). Lets also brush past the fact that he apparently believes the Norwegian government is responsible for awarding Nobel prizes (its not).
Lets instead consider the nature of the American presidents pitch: Norway hurt his feelings by failing to give him an award he wanted but did not earn, which means he no longer feels an obligation to think purely of Peace, and which further leads him to believe that the NATO alliance should simply let him buy an arctic island, which isnt for sale and which does not want to be part of the United States, with money he does not have.
Theres been an ongoing conversation for quite a while about whether Trump deserves to be seen as a mad king. As the public digests his message to the Norwegian prime minister, its likely that conversation is poised to grow considerably louder.
Bengus81
(9,873 posts)moondust
(21,234 posts)Bing Bong Ding Dong Prize and tell him it's superior to that Norway thing.
Clouds Passing
(7,135 posts)ananda
(34,508 posts)to make war on Europe if they don't give him Greenland?
Pluvious
(5,273 posts)misanthrope
(9,394 posts)I saw it and I'm a nobody. I have no access to special information or insight. I said as much back when he was openly lobbying for the Nobel Prize, that when he was no longer in the running for the award, he would drop the pretense and let his worse self seize the wheel.
How did I know? Because I have lived my life among humans and paid attention to personality types. I've watched other folks for 60-plus years and that experience combined with what I learned about psychology, sociology and history in school showed me who Trump really was and what his tendencies were.
Anyone could have seen this so I don't want to hear any shock or surprise.
Marie Marie
(10,947 posts)Same old song ...
xuplate
(166 posts)Will it be before or after he ends the world?