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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe worst part of that speech for me was when he said that NATO has never and would never answer the call for the US
Which as we all know is not only false (the only time Article 5 was invoked was after 9/11 and 18 European countries came to our aid in Afghanistan) but the country who suffered the most in terms of human casualties is the very country he is targeting now, Denmark.
One of the most disgusting things about being a thinking American under Trump is the lies.
mucifer
(25,554 posts)nilram
(3,488 posts)Response to BeyondGeography (Original post)
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littlemissmartypants
(31,967 posts)
Ray Bruns
(6,031 posts)Go fuck yourself!
littlemissmartypants
(31,967 posts)Ray Bruns
(6,031 posts)I was just adding to list in the graphic.
littlemissmartypants
(31,967 posts)Does work as an aggressive reply though. If you want to get confrontational with whoever is abusing you.
druidity33
(6,872 posts)"assertive requirement"? Before i quit one of my jobs under a constantly gaslighting kitchen manager i told him, "You're an asshole and always have been. Everyone here knows how incompetent you are. Thanks for nothing" Did that meet any kind of "requirement"?
littlemissmartypants
(31,967 posts)druidity33
(6,872 posts)do you mean that only the responses in the graphic are acceptable? Or does the requirement have to do with causing antagonism with a statement or something? Because i gotta say, none of those responses are likely to work in a non-partner gaslighting relationship. I am in favor of using a collection of words that will most expediently remove myself permanently from said gaslighters authority and purview. "Fuck you asshole!" with a walk away seems perfectly fine to me, assuming you are not going to get bludgeoned when you turn your back on the gaslighter.
littlemissmartypants
(31,967 posts)I didn't produce the graphic. And I'm not going to critique your behavior.
Having healthy relationships, went possible, is always the preferred option when trying to work and live in society. I personally prefer to build relationships when possible or give the gift of my absence to those who don't understand that. It's a waste of my life to otherwise engage.
The exchange you are reacting to is specifically between Ray Bruns and me.
yellow dahlia
(4,846 posts)littlemissmartypants
(31,967 posts)popsdenver
(1,712 posts)at a battered women shelter, and the battered women would all quote their husbands/boyfriends as saying:
If you don't say this or that, I won't have to beat you......it's all YOUR fault I do it...........
One of the counselors told me that most of the work is directed at the woman, who think they deserve it, just like their mothers who were also abused......She said if they can't get through the message that it is NOT them, but him, they will go right back into that relationship, or one similar, because that is what they have been conditioned to thinking/believing all their lives....
littlemissmartypants
(31,967 posts)I'm very thankful that I had an epiphany. I never got any rest, I was hiding injuries. Crying all the way to work and all the way home. Toward the end , the sound of duck hunter's guns across the branch had me thinking, "If I only had a gun."
He kept telling me repeatedly that he didn't like the smell of my shampoo. So, I kept trying different shampoos. One day I opened the bathroom cabinet and counted 13 different bottles under the sink. He had not thrown any away (typical because he was a cheapskate) and I realized that it didn't matter how many times I changed shampoo, he was going to blame me. It was not me, it was him and if I didn't get out of there soon ...
In the 80's police were still always prioritizing the husband's case and overwhelmingly subjugated the wife. Even with visible injuries, holes in the walls and escalation with every call made by me and the neighbors, he was who they believed. I was the problem.
That day I realized that I couldn't change a thing about myself and make him happy. He was sick. In less than a year, one thing at a time, I secretly planned my escape.
Unfortunately, even then he found me. The emotional abuse and destructive abuse of my home, my property and my family continued until I was able to transfer to another position in another state and I won't say more here but that trauma never really goes away. I was lucky that day. I saw the light, under the bathroom sink.
Ray Bruns
(6,031 posts)Farmer-Rick
(12,519 posts)As if pedo Trump knows what answering the call means. He never did it, never, ever in his entire life. His father never did. His German descents never did. Just another Trumped up lie.
surfered
(11,912 posts)Moostache
(11,033 posts)I want to watch him die in a public collapse. I want to see the light go out of his eyes and roll back into his empty head. I want to watch people stand back and DO NOTHING while he gasps his last breath. THAT was the worst part of the series of incoherent lies and nonsense gibberish our national shame poured out of his festering gob.
Die Trump, do it now, do it on camera and do it so that I can watch it on an endless loop of replays from every possible angle.
calimary
(89,198 posts)Ill bring the chocolate snacks.
3catwoman3
(28,711 posts)As do I. If he is found dead in bed, you know his worshippers will be sure that our side offed him in some way.
My preferred scenario is for him to be struck by lightning while on one of his golf courses.
Wednesdays
(21,700 posts)No way would I want him to linger in pain and discomfort. And to die slowly, in agony. No way.
AZ8theist
(7,116 posts)...Hopefully this happens as well:

AllyCat
(18,588 posts)would watch this one and feel humanity finally got a win.
Bev54
(13,258 posts)This is some bullshit, when you think some people might like you, but you really only want to make enemies, not friends
BeyondGeography
(40,877 posts)Imagine being a Dane hearing that, especially one who was directly impacted by Afghanistan.
Justice matters.
(9,481 posts)I can't imagine the real pain of hearing these LIES from the peace* of shit dicktraitor Bonespurs!
Martin68
(27,170 posts)LymphocyteLover
(9,456 posts)PJMcK
(24,818 posts)The media is spineless. They NEVER challenge his lies or historical misstatements.
Pathetic especially since the same media was relentless in the negative stories about President Biden. Yet all we hear from these so-called journalists is crickets.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(133,319 posts)Evolve Dammit
(21,549 posts)The Revolution
(883 posts)Is he ignorant or just an asshole? I guess both, but does he really not know about this? Or he does know and just want to piss people off?
littlemissmartypants
(31,967 posts)Everyone needs to learn and know how to identify a psychopath. They make up 30% of the general population in the US. Even more exist in power positions in politics and business.
Unfortunately, he's not a lone wolf.
I'd like to offer a suggestion:
Stats on Psychopaths
Psychopathy is a very common
mental disorder. It is twice as
common as schizophrenia,
anorexia, and bipolar disorder.
It is equally common as bulimia,
panic disorder, and autism.
The only mental disorders
significantly more common than
psychopathy are substance abuse
or dependence, depression, and
post-traumatic stress disorder.
Psychopathy affects all
ethnic, cultural, racial,
and socioeconomic groups.
...psychopathy
is a spectrum disorder,
Prevalence in the United States
Approximately 70% of the
population is estimated to
have no psychopathic traits
whatsoever.
Key Point
👇👇👇👇👇👇
The remaining
30% have low, medium, or
high levels of psychopathy.
Source:
https://psychopathyis.org/stats/
1. Aggressive, callous, and cunning
2. Complete absence of conscience and empathy
3. Very adept at manipulating others
4. Willingness to engage in immoral, criminal conduct
5. Willingness to take what they want and do as they please, regardless of who is hurt or wronged
6. Deceptive ability to appear outwardly benevolent
7. Deceptive ability to behave in superficially charming ways to hide purely selfish motives
8. Willingness to use intimidation and violence to control others in order to satisfy their own needs
9. Willingness to intentionally violate the basic inherent human rights of others
10. Complete absence of any sense of guilt or remorse for the harm their actions have caused to others
11. Rationalization of their own immoral behavior
12. Will attempt to lay blame upon someone else for their own conduct
13. Denial, will deny their own wrongdoing outright
14. Utter contemptuousness toward the feelings and desires of their fellow beings
15. Pathological lying, will say anything without any concern for truth to advance their own hidden agendas
16. Ablity to feign [fake] normal human emotions and empathy
17. Distorted sense of the consequences of their actions
18. Total failure to accept any responsibility for their own socially irresponsible ways
19. Strong bellef that they will never be brought to justice for their criminal behavior
*psychopath indicates that the disorder has a genetic basis, sociopath, that the basis is societal. I'm unequivocal in my stance because of his familial history and because of the expanded knowledge of the genetics of mental health disorders that supports the notion. He has benefited (his pathology is exacerbated and sustained) from and by the support for his psychopathic personality by the many other psychopaths that exist among us in the US population.
SheltieLover
(77,379 posts)Marvin Jones
(30 posts)As someone who served under NATO Command, there are no words to adequately convey my feelings. So, I have been apologizing to our Allies and trying to light a fire under my Representative and two Senators to get rid of this creature pretending to be human.
littlemissmartypants
(31,967 posts)I'd like to offer a suggestion:
Stats on Psychopaths
Psychopathy is a very common
mental disorder. It is twice as
common as schizophrenia,
anorexia, and bipolar disorder.
It is equally common as bulimia,
panic disorder, and autism.
The only mental disorders
significantly more common than
psychopathy are substance abuse
or dependence, depression, and
post-traumatic stress disorder.
Psychopathy affects all
ethnic, cultural, racial,
and socioeconomic groups.
...psychopathy
is a spectrum disorder,
Prevalence in the United States
Approximately 70% of the
population is estimated to
have no psychopathic traits
whatsoever.
Key Point
👇👇👇👇👇👇
The remaining
30% have low, medium, or
high levels of psychopathy.
Source:
https://psychopathyis.org/stats/
1. Aggressive, callous, and cunning
2. Complete absence of conscience and empathy
3. Very adept at manipulating others
4. Willingness to engage in immoral, criminal conduct
5. Willingness to take what they want and do as they please, regardless of who is hurt or wronged
6. Deceptive ability to appear outwardly benevolent
7. Deceptive ability to behave in superficially charming ways to hide purely selfish motives
8. Willingness to use intimidation and violence to control others in order to satisfy their own needs
9. Willingness to intentionally violate the basic inherent human rights of others
10. Complete absence of any sense of guilt or remorse for the harm their actions have caused to others
11. Rationalization of their own immoral behavior
12. Will attempt to lay blame upon someone else for their own conduct
13. Denial, will deny their own wrongdoing outright
14. Utter contemptuousness toward the feelings and desires of their fellow beings
15. Pathological lying, will say anything without any concern for truth to advance their own hidden agendas
16. Ablity to feign [fake] normal human emotions and empathy
17. Distorted sense of the consequences of their actions
18. Total failure to accept any responsibility for their own socially irresponsible ways
19. Strong bellef that they will never be brought to justice for their criminal behavior
*psychopath indicates that the disorder has a genetic basis, sociopath, that the basis is societal. I'm unequivocal in my stance because of his familial history and because of the expanded knowledge of the genetics of mental health disorders that supports the notion. He has benefited (his pathology is exacerbated and sustained) from and by the support for his psychopathic personality by the many other psychopaths that exist among us in the US population.
I'm sure that you already know much of this. But I can't stop sharing. Thank you for trying to light a fire, Marvin Jones. It only takes a spark. ❤️
viva la
(4,521 posts)Every time he speaks, he says something that is indescribably wrong and corrupt and perverse.
His dementia and insanity and downright badness are destroying our country-- and no one around him cares enough to stop him.
Every day it gets worse and worse.
Jarqui
(10,842 posts)Trump's lying is so bad it is embarrassing to the species
littlemissmartypants
(31,967 posts)Unfortunately, he's not a lone wolf.
I'd like to offer a suggestion:
Stats on Psychopaths
Psychopathy is a very common
mental disorder. It is twice as
common as schizophrenia,
anorexia, and bipolar disorder.
It is equally common as bulimia,
panic disorder, and autism.
The only mental disorders
significantly more common than
psychopathy are substance abuse
or dependence, depression, and
post-traumatic stress disorder.
Psychopathy affects all
ethnic, cultural, racial,
and socioeconomic groups.
...psychopathy
is a spectrum disorder,
Prevalence in the United States
Approximately 70% of the
population is estimated to
have no psychopathic traits
whatsoever.
Key Point
👇👇👇👇👇👇
The remaining
30% have low, medium, or
high levels of psychopathy.
Source:
https://psychopathyis.org/stats/
1. Aggressive, callous, and cunning
2. Complete absence of conscience and empathy
3. Very adept at manipulating others
4. Willingness to engage in immoral, criminal conduct
5. Willingness to take what they want and do as they please, regardless of who is hurt or wronged
6. Deceptive ability to appear outwardly benevolent
7. Deceptive ability to behave in superficially charming ways to hide purely selfish motives
8. Willingness to use intimidation and violence to control others in order to satisfy their own needs
9. Willingness to intentionally violate the basic inherent human rights of others
10. Complete absence of any sense of guilt or remorse for the harm their actions have caused to others
11. Rationalization of their own immoral behavior
12. Will attempt to lay blame upon someone else for their own conduct
13. Denial, will deny their own wrongdoing outright
14. Utter contemptuousness toward the feelings and desires of their fellow beings
15. Pathological lying, will say anything without any concern for truth to advance their own hidden agendas
16. Ablity to feign [fake] normal human emotions and empathy
17. Distorted sense of the consequences of their actions
18. Total failure to accept any responsibility for their own socially irresponsible ways
19. Strong bellef that they will never be brought to justice for their criminal behavior
*psychopath indicates that the disorder has a genetic basis, sociopath, that the basis is societal. I'm unequivocal in my stance because of his familial history and because of the expanded knowledge of the genetics of mental health disorders that supports the notion. He has benefited (his pathology is exacerbated and sustained) from and by the support for his psychopathic personality by the many other psychopaths that exist among us in the US population.
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Betty Boom
(396 posts)Its his complete ignorance of history and government. His fourth grade vocabulary. Hes like that drunk at the end of the bar just spouting off crap confidently like the blowhard he is, and everything he says shows his ignorance.