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4bonhoffer

(151 posts)
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 09:48 AM 6 hrs ago

Grocery store yesterday - never assume

An employee stated he was familiar with Thom Hartmann in the past. I assumed he was on our side so I mentioned that it’s time to call our representatives to not fund ice until ice obeys our laws. Knocked off my feet when he said he’s ok with ice because of all the illegals.. I asked if he’s ok with disabled American citizens being pulled out of their cars on their way to a doctors appointment. His reply was he’s not ok with that, but it’s all those illegals. Same answer when I brought up veterans being detained, people having their doors smashed in with no warrant. It’s not ok, but those illegals was his reply to everything.

These nazi sympathizers have phones too. We need to overwhelm our representatives with calls demanding they stand up for democracy.

A caller to Thom Hartmann’s show yesterday had the brilliant idea if we do get the house/ senate back that we demand that people are reimbursed for the damages they received from ice , and that the funding for that come out of ice’s budget.

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Grocery store yesterday - never assume (Original Post) 4bonhoffer 6 hrs ago OP
Just hearing something doesn't mean that one will accept the thing. markodochartaigh 5 hrs ago #1
Obviously Overdosed Mr.Bee 4 hrs ago #2
This Grateful Dead tune has haunted me for decades... (Throwing Stones) Moostache 3 hrs ago #6
Sometimes rephrase the question Dan 4 hrs ago #3
Yes, absolutely people need to be reimbursed PatSeg 4 hrs ago #4
Trump's America Mr.Bee 4 hrs ago #5
Trump's default mode PatSeg 3 hrs ago #7
Probably a regular Faux Noise viewer FakeNoose 3 hrs ago #8
The heart of it is racism. Nothing else paleotn 3 hrs ago #9
The ILLEGALs Getting Away Mr.Bee 56 min ago #10
Your grocery store is much more interesting than mine sarisataka 32 min ago #11

markodochartaigh

(5,117 posts)
1. Just hearing something doesn't mean that one will accept the thing.
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 10:32 AM
5 hrs ago

I'm familiar with Limbaugh but nothing short of torture would make me believe that what he said was the truth. Like in 1984 maybe I could be broken and believe that 2+2=5.
I would like to think that listening to Thom, especially over a period of time, could enlighten most people. But the reich-wing zeitgeist is very pervasive.

Mr.Bee

(1,689 posts)
2. Obviously Overdosed
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 11:39 AM
4 hrs ago
On FoxNews.
They've been promoting (and still are) this 'illegal' myth for years!
Leave it to chef Pati Jinich to disspell this myth on her La Frontera series.
It is not 'illegals' flowing back and forth across the border - it's COMMERCE!
La Frontera With Pati Jinich

Moostache

(11,036 posts)
6. This Grateful Dead tune has haunted me for decades... (Throwing Stones)
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 12:15 PM
3 hrs ago
Shooting powders back and forth
Singing, "Black goes south while white comes north


---------------------------

RIP for the departed, you've got a hell of a jam band on stage somewhere now!

----------------------------

Picture a bright blue ball just spinning, spinning free
Dizzy with eternity
Paint it with a skin of sky, brush in some clouds and sea
Call it home for you and me

A peaceful place, or so it looks from space
A closer look reveals the human race
Full of hope, full of grace is the human face
But afraid we may lay our home to waste

There's a fear down here we can't forget
Hasn't got a name just yet
Always awake, always around
Singing, "Ashes, ashes all fall down" (ashes, ashes all fall down)


Now watch as the ball revolves and the nighttime falls
And again the hunt begins, and again the bloodwind calls
By and by again, the morning sun will rise
The darkness never goes from some mens eyes, ooh no

It strolls the sidewalks, and it rolls the streets
It's taking turf, dividing up meat
Nightmare spook, piece of heat
It's you and me, you and me

Hey, Flashblade in ghetto night
Rudies looking for a fight
Rat Cat Alley, roll them bones
Need that cash to feed that jones

And the politicians throwing stones
Singing, "Ashes, ashes all fall down" (ashes, ashes all fall down)


Commissars and pin-striped bosses roll the dice
Any way they fall, guess who gets to pay the price
Money green, the proletarian gray
Selling guns instead of food today

So the kids, they dance, they shake their bones
And the politicians throwing stones
Singing, "Ashes, ashes all fall down" (ashes, ashes all fall down)


Heartless powers try to tell us what to think
If the spirit's sleeping, then the flesh is ink, yeah
History's page will be neatly carved in stone
The future's here, we are it, we are on our own
On our own, on our own, on our own

If the game is lost, we're all the same
No one left to place or take the blame
We will leave this place an empty stone
Well, that shinning ball blue
We can call our home

So the kids, they dance, they shake their bones
And the politicians are throwing stones
Singing, "Ashes, ashes all fall down" (ashes, ashes all fall down)


Shooting powders back and forth
Singing, "Black goes south while white comes north
And the whole world full of petty wars"
Singing, "I got mine and you got yours"

And the current fashions set the pace
Lose your step, fall out of grace
And the radical, he rant and rage
Singing, "Someone got to turn the page"

And the rich man in his summer home
Singing, "Just leave well enough alone"
But his pants are down, his cover's blown
And the politicians throwing stones

So the kids, they dance, they shake their bones
'Cause it's all too clear, we're on our own
Singing, "Ashes, ashes all fall down
Ashes, ashes, all fall down"


Picture a bright blue ball just spinning, spinning free
It's dizzy, the possibilities

Ashes, ashes, all fall down (ashes, ashes, all fall down)
Ashes, ashes, all fall down (ashes, ashes, all fall down)
Ashes, ashes, all fall down (ashes, ashes, all fall down)
Ashes, ashes, all fall down (ashes, ashes, all fall down)


All fall down (ashes, ashes, all fall down)
All fall down (ashes, ashes, all fall down)
Signing, "Ashes, ashes, all fall down (ashes, ashes, all fall down)

All fall down (ashes, ashes, all fall down)
All fall down! (ashes, ashes, all fall down)
Signing, "Ashes, ashes, all fall down"


Ashes, ashes, all fall down
Ashes, ashes, all fall down
(Ashes, ashes, all fall down)

Dan

(5,009 posts)
3. Sometimes rephrase the question
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 11:48 AM
4 hrs ago

i.e. How does the deportation of “illegal” immigrants benefit you?

Or How has “the illegal” immigrants harmed you?

You will be surprised at what comes out.

And for an additional thought - “what are your thoughts on how to get rid of the “illegal” European immigrants?

PatSeg

(52,336 posts)
4. Yes, absolutely people need to be reimbursed
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 11:53 AM
4 hrs ago

I can't believe the amount of reckless and totally unnecessary damage to cars and homes that we're seeing. Who is going to pay for those wrecked cars, smashed windows, broken doors, and trashed houses? Not to mention victims' phones, purses, and other personal property just left behind when they drag someone away.

Totally mindless destruction and carnage.

PatSeg

(52,336 posts)
7. Trump's default mode
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 12:31 PM
3 hrs ago

Anything good is to Trump's credit and anything bad is Biden's fault, if not Obama's.

FakeNoose

(40,407 posts)
8. Probably a regular Faux Noise viewer
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 12:37 PM
3 hrs ago

Thom Hartmann gets mentioned on Faux occasionally, but that doesn't mean they agree with him.
MAGAs can't think for themselves, as we all know. They just repeat the BS they hear on Faux.

paleotn

(21,696 posts)
9. The heart of it is racism. Nothing else
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 12:42 PM
3 hrs ago

If the immigrants were from Norway they’d have no problem

sarisataka

(22,261 posts)
11. Your grocery store is much more interesting than mine
Thu Jan 22, 2026, 03:34 PM
32 min ago

I never have employees just walk up and tell me they know about Thom Hartmann.
More often it is a challenge to find someone who can go to the deli counter and get me a pound of shaved ham.

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