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Ocelot II

(129,466 posts)
Fri Jan 23, 2026, 12:29 PM 6 hrs ago

The abhorrent power of the photograph of a 5-year-old held by ICE

An image like this could once change history. Can one still?

A viral image of 5-year-old Liam Conejo Ramos shows the boy in a blue knit hat with white bunny ears and pompoms, standing with a blank look on his face, staring at the back of a truck. Liam and his father were captured by Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers in Minnesota on Tuesday, and both are now detained in San Antonio, more than 1,200 miles from Liam’s home, his school, his friends and most of his family.

School officials in Minnesota say that the prekindergarten student was used “as bait” by ICE, in an apparent attempt to gain access to the adults inside the private house where he once lived. That act, the use of a boy too young to understand the political game in which he became a pawn, mirrors in a perverse and deeply disturbing way the power of the photograph. The photograph stirs empathy and compassion, the same emotions that ICE agents apparently used to entice adults into making themselves vulnerable to capture.
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A universal moral image works because at some level we share a universal moral conscience. There are certain things that, when seen, compel us to action in a way that transcends all other concerns.
It is universal because the suffering of a child cuts across race, nationality and ideological divisions. It is universal because it takes precedence over all other concerns. A child in distress demands action now. The world stops for a moment, and decent people do what is absolutely, immediately necessary.

Among the most deeply distressing things this image represents is the instrumentalization of compassion. ICE didn’t place a box of candy or a $100 bill on the front stoop of the house, hoping to tempt people out. They used a child to appeal to the most innate and essentially human impulse to show care, concern and protect — to capture those who care for him. They weaponized decency, the last incorruptible defense we have against absolute misery and evil.

https://archive.is/LwbMg#selection-227.0-227.65

No words...

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The abhorrent power of the photograph of a 5-year-old held by ICE (Original Post) Ocelot II 6 hrs ago OP
💧💔 That bunny hat!!! littlemissmartypants 6 hrs ago #1
This picture Cherokee100 5 hrs ago #12
It makes me so mad Mr. Evil 4 hrs ago #22
they think they have problems with MS 13? Conjuay 3 hrs ago #28
Shitler's List Blue Owl 6 hrs ago #2
My god, what kind of people do something like that? PatSeg 6 hrs ago #3
Very good idea! I just want to scoop him up and wrap him in a blanket. littlemissmartypants 6 hrs ago #4
He brings me to tears. I wish the next president brer cat 5 hrs ago #7
Me too, bc. I'm having a very sad day and feeling kind of useless. littlemissmartypants 4 hrs ago #17
I know, he is breaking my heart PatSeg 3 hrs ago #33
Donvict's people malaise 5 hrs ago #15
Great post Ocelot II. ❤️ littlemissmartypants 6 hrs ago #5
;-{) Liam Conejo-(rabbit) Ramos Goonch 5 hrs ago #6
What a sweet face ❤️😊 FakeNoose 5 hrs ago #9
Liam. What a lovely name. So, so sorry, Liam. 🙏 littlemissmartypants 4 hrs ago #19
Stealing this n/t malaise 5 hrs ago #16
Oh my god. 💧💔 littlemissmartypants 4 hrs ago #18
Apparently... GiqueCee 5 hrs ago #8
Correct Johnny2X2X 3 hrs ago #31
Reminds me of this Dwild 5 hrs ago #10
and they were here legally. Breaks my heart. Emile 5 hrs ago #11
what a precious little guy Skittles 5 hrs ago #13
Images lie (unfortunately) to both the heart and mind gulliver 5 hrs ago #14
Speaking of people who abuse children. usonian 4 hrs ago #20
Don't feel like orangecrush 4 hrs ago #21
a new low North Coast Lawyer 4 hrs ago #23
No comment AverageOldGuy 4 hrs ago #24
This should be the pulitzer moment like the Kent state shooting that changed the attitude about Vietnam JT45242 4 hrs ago #25
Bunch of Ice-holes... California Kid 4 hrs ago #26
someone should photoshop Steven Miller kid's face into this intheozone 3 hrs ago #27
Does Stephen Miller even care about his own kids? Ocelot II 3 hrs ago #29
Let's hope his 3 kids take after their mother and not their father FakeNoose 3 hrs ago #32
Absolute monsters. I refuse to become the American version of the "Good German". Fuck that! RESIST! Joinfortmill 3 hrs ago #30

littlemissmartypants

(32,029 posts)
1. 💧💔 That bunny hat!!!
Fri Jan 23, 2026, 12:37 PM
6 hrs ago
Looking just like all of the criminal illegals in my neighborhood. You can identify them by their height and their hats.


SAID NO ONE EVER.

Cherokee100

(441 posts)
12. This picture
Fri Jan 23, 2026, 01:44 PM
5 hrs ago

This picture, should be the rallying flag, for us all. (I know I didn't phrase that well but I hope you get my drift). It should be on all posters, t-shirts, caps, etc:.

Conjuay

(2,937 posts)
28. they think they have problems with MS 13?
Fri Jan 23, 2026, 03:14 PM
3 hrs ago

Wait until people like Liam hits their twenties.
-And I can’t blame him for whatever he becomes

PatSeg

(52,342 posts)
3. My god, what kind of people do something like that?
Fri Jan 23, 2026, 12:52 PM
6 hrs ago

I've made his image my profile pic on Facebook. There but for fortune people.

littlemissmartypants

(32,029 posts)
4. Very good idea! I just want to scoop him up and wrap him in a blanket.
Fri Jan 23, 2026, 12:56 PM
6 hrs ago

He is being such a good boy. Just look at his little face! He doesn't seem to be wearing any gloves. I can't stand it!

brer cat

(27,404 posts)
7. He brings me to tears. I wish the next president
Fri Jan 23, 2026, 01:18 PM
5 hrs ago

would deport every ICE agent along with the puppy killer.

littlemissmartypants

(32,029 posts)
17. Me too, bc. I'm having a very sad day and feeling kind of useless.
Fri Jan 23, 2026, 02:00 PM
4 hrs ago

I wish I knew how to help him and his family.

PatSeg

(52,342 posts)
33. I know, he is breaking my heart
Fri Jan 23, 2026, 03:53 PM
3 hrs ago

I just want to pick him up and comfort him.

Posting it as my profile pic has generated some discussions though.

FakeNoose

(40,419 posts)
9. What a sweet face ❤️😊
Fri Jan 23, 2026, 01:26 PM
5 hrs ago

I'm so sorry Liam! When I was 5 years old in the 1950's, our country was nothing like this...
We used to be the "good guys."

GiqueCee

(3,500 posts)
8. Apparently...
Fri Jan 23, 2026, 01:26 PM
5 hrs ago

... both he and his father are legal residents of this country, yet they are still being detained somewhere in Texas.
The magnitude of ICE's evil can only be measured in astronomical terms. I wish every soulless scumbag associated with this travesty a slow, agonizing death, alone and despised by everyone who ever had the misfortune to meet them. Especially Miller, Homan, Noem, and Bovino.

Johnny2X2X

(23,728 posts)
31. Correct
Fri Jan 23, 2026, 03:29 PM
3 hrs ago

They are legal asylum seekers who entered the country through a legit port of entry and have a case pending.

We are dealing with pure evil and when/if the country returns to sanity, every single one of these monsters needs to face justice.

Skittles

(169,906 posts)
13. what a precious little guy
Fri Jan 23, 2026, 01:47 PM
5 hrs ago

there are people who call themselves Christian who look at him and think illegal

gulliver

(13,760 posts)
14. Images lie (unfortunately) to both the heart and mind
Fri Jan 23, 2026, 01:48 PM
5 hrs ago

It's especially bad now that images are so easy to create and manipulate.

You can't look at the image of this child and not have your heart tell you, "Whatever this is, it's no good." Then, a lot of people will look for a narrative that makes it look as bad as possible. A lot of people will look for a narrative that makes it as good as possible. "Fact" sources oblige by providing evidence of varying reliability and slant.

Best bet is to just have a good solid world model and model of human nature.

usonian

(23,795 posts)
20. Speaking of people who abuse children.
Fri Jan 23, 2026, 02:16 PM
4 hrs ago

These two people, merged into one, are the cause of all this woe.
To hide their crimes, they unleash hundreds of other crimes.



Trumpstein.

North Coast Lawyer

(237 posts)
23. a new low
Fri Jan 23, 2026, 02:53 PM
4 hrs ago

Just when you thought Trump/MAGA/ICE couldn't get any lower they do. Today I'm ashamed to be an American.

JT45242

(3,879 posts)
25. This should be the pulitzer moment like the Kent state shooting that changed the attitude about Vietnam
Fri Jan 23, 2026, 02:59 PM
4 hrs ago

How could anyone not look at that and not SHOUT... THIS IS WRONG!!

intheozone

(1,132 posts)
27. someone should photoshop Steven Miller kid's face into this
Fri Jan 23, 2026, 03:10 PM
3 hrs ago

picture and let it go viral! All of this deranged, inhuman behavior is being driven by his adolescent wet dreams of an only white america. The man needs to get the fuck out of our government!

Ocelot II

(129,466 posts)
29. Does Stephen Miller even care about his own kids?
Fri Jan 23, 2026, 03:21 PM
3 hrs ago

(I'm pretty amazed that he has any, considering what had to be done to create them.) But if you're a true Nazi you don't care about kids. Miller is a dead ringer for Josef Goebbels; his wife is said to have poisoned her own six children in Hitler's bunker.

FakeNoose

(40,419 posts)
32. Let's hope his 3 kids take after their mother and not their father
Fri Jan 23, 2026, 03:53 PM
3 hrs ago

I don't believe a photo has been published with his kids, and they're all under 5 years old.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katie_Miller

Katie Miller has taken the name of her husband Stephen, so she wouldn't be allowed to vote according to the Repukes. Neither would Melania Trump, for that matter. When they figure out that they'd be disenfranchising nearly ALL of their own women, I think it will put the kibosh on that stupid plan.

Joinfortmill

(20,266 posts)
30. Absolute monsters. I refuse to become the American version of the "Good German". Fuck that! RESIST!
Fri Jan 23, 2026, 03:21 PM
3 hrs ago
Note to Self: You're old, you can afford to resist. Be kind to those who are scared witless.
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