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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMueller, She Wrote: FYI: Dems in the senate can't defund ICE. ICE is funded by the Big Ugly Bill. Shutting down DHS on
this vote wouldn't touch ICE, but it would shut down FEMA, TSA, Coast Guard, etc. Shutting down ICE requires taking back Congress in the midterms. Dismantling DHS requires the White House in 2028.FYI: Dems in the senate can't defund ICE. ICE is funded by the Big Ugly Bill. Shutting down DHS on this vote wouldn't touch ICE, but it would shut down FEMA, TSA, Coast Guard, etc. Shutting down ICE requires taking back Congress in the midterms. Dismantling DHS requires the White House in 2028.
— Mueller, She Wrote (@muellershewrote.com) 2026-01-23T17:03:24.631Z
W_HAMILTON
(10,158 posts)And even if a miracle were to occur and we got Republicans to vote to defund ICE, the fascist in the White House would either veto the bill or just defy it outright and divert the funds from elsewhere like he has done already.
People need to face the fact that if they didn't support and vote for Kamala and the other Democrats that were the only thing standing in the way from all these horrors taking place, they are complicit in the horrors. And they, and unfortunately the rest of us, will be subject to them for quite some time to come because there is no magic wand that Democrats can wave to save us, especially while they are in the minority.
Irish_Dem
(80,177 posts)Germany only did so at gunpoint.